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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps vs Agen Match Thread (Spoilers)
« on: November 24, 2019, 03:34:59 PM »
NWW- Honest questions- 
In the cold light of day do you still think he is treated badly? I say that because I often feel a player has done well/badly and a day later am more circumspect.
Secondly in your opinion should Lima be behind him in the pecking order as of next week?

I notice that Lima's name provokes huge controversy here- l would wager a good number of those downvotes or whatever they are accumulate when he is discussed and we lose, which tends to happen too much these past 18 months- some people clearly feel that he is getting undue criticism, whilst others dislike the adulation for his predecessor. I feel that discussion about him just ends up with raging disagreements, like a rugby version of Brexit. If Jacob is going to put pressue on his place, we could be in for more debate. 

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Morning All
« on: November 23, 2019, 10:32:23 AM »
Cardiff are on in the C cup I think. Will make the wife happy...
A win will satisfy me, and I think we will get it, probably easily. There, said it.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Teams Up - We mean Business Methinks
« on: November 22, 2019, 04:38:35 PM »
I thought last week was an excellent performance considering, and I am thus glad to see some players who might be nominally second choice, if you know what I mean by second choice in a squad game, retain their place. Very pleased to see Ashley, Willis jnr and  Owlett.
Need a W, hoping this could be the start of something.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: An evening with Eddie Jones...
« on: November 22, 2019, 12:37:02 AM »
As a grammar school educated man turned independent sector teacher (i. e. private) I can relate. Pupils now are not taught to question much or think for themselves. It is part of the culture now- the central tennets of education are "everyone will be successful if they work hard enough", "everything can be measured", and "everything can be improved- constantly-with targets". When few teachers question the orthodoxy it is hardly surprising that their pupils don't. Personally I go to great lengths to challenge the second and last statements (the former being rather demotivating although equally flawed), whilst implicitly criticising the management culture that infects education like syphilis. I normally end up comparing managerial culture of measurement and SMART targets to Nazi's measuring nose length in an absurd attempt to establish Jewish ancestry, and then discuss the fact that as a scientist I cannot even measure the position of an electron or volume of liquid in a measuring cylinder precisely, and yet we claim to be able to measure the performance of schools/hospitals/ etc. by a series of inspections.
Back to rugby - did Eddie hint at how long he expects his tenure to be?

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 19, 2019, 02:31:28 PM »
Singleton won't be cheap, he is an outstanding prospect and as Dai says, Daly left for more money than he was on.
Still stinks to me.
Does anyone here feel differently?
Genuine question, I just can't see how they can be within the cap.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 19, 2019, 08:26:55 AM »
I would be interested to visit the SN Sarries site come Jan. Remember, for those who monitor or participate in the DW site, the endless Kruis v Launch debates when the former was playing like a blocked drain? All those fans might be singing a different tune now that they need those players. Expect bigging up of non Sarries players. They might be a bit shafted at hooker as they have number one and three in the pecking order.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 18, 2019, 08:40:09 AM »
He will be there. He is like a a dose of gonorrhoea you can't shake. Be honest, the club would not exist without him and now he has stained it who would step in? Even if he took a step back, it would be a Putin type sabbatical whilst a puppet ran it, followed by an unwelcome return.

I want to see that squad reduced now, and frankly I don't give a toss if players get shafted, they all knew the score. I fear they will be given the promise of a bung later rather than being told they are not able to play. The coinvestments have not even been considered, a dead rat on top of a few live ones scurrying under the surface. No amount of tame journos will save this one, fans need to make themselves heard at the games, at the post match on BT, in the Rugby Paper, if anyone still buys it after their paid for services as Sarries' PR.

Singleton played for them yesterday, another Billy type pinching of a young international.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: OT- Broadband & TV experience
« on: November 18, 2019, 01:55:38 AM »
You need to haggle with them all.
You can use independent speed testing websites once installed.
My Sky package has been great for BB, but my parents are not so lucky. It seems to be a bit pot luck. They are notoriously hard to leave. BT are sneaky and just put the price up out of contract so if you don't check your ebill you can be shafted, Sky do the same but when you log into their website the current and old bills are easily to hand. In my experience BT are better in terms of haggling, you can get most new customer deaks with them by renewing, they just tie you into them for longer. Sky can get arsey over things like box replacement until you hit the right person, at which point you normally get what you want, and their customer service has been good for me.
My Sky BB is linked to the sports, permanently reduced as long as I have sports. It is pretty fast here.

My Virgin experience was rather unsatisfactory- they told me over the phone that I should not have gone into the shop for a deal when I wanted to upgrade and keep my email address. Oddly the email address stayed active for years after, despite their shop trying to tell me I could only keep it if I paid top wack for a package I did not want.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: So how far away are we?
« on: November 18, 2019, 01:41:01 AM »
I guess you need a bit of management vis-a-vis game time etc. I think Dai selected well for this week, we learnt a lot and much if it was positive to boot.

First choice does not mean much, but in terms of contract renewal it means something. For example, Willis is probably worth more to the team than he is on, because frankly we can't be paying him enough given his herculean efforts.
I suspect that Cruse is worth as much to us than TT now, because he has improved beyond expectation whilst TT languished with injury. Zz too has been a revelation.

I don't want to be negative, but I suspect that Shields, Carr, Young, Vailanu, Reider etc. will be aware that Willis is above them, frankly I thought Ashley was smashing this weekend, and when Young is fit competition for a starting slot will be high.
I am not sure how much money those guys are on, but I suspect the next time contracts are up there might have to be some rejigging. Bassett seems to have dropped down the pecking order, one wonders what that might happen when his contract comes up again- he is presumably on a first choice renumeration package, especially given the non switch to Saints. Maybe he will pick up, idk, but the point is a player becoming first choice who was not before may be looking for a pay rise to reflect their status eventually, which may be acommodated if others drop. That appears to be how it works in soccer where status is defined by salary, albeit in a non salary cap market.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: So how far away are we?
« on: November 17, 2019, 08:43:21 PM »
I don't think it matters too much who we have lost to, because our league and cup pool are strong- any win is great, no team is a gimme. Whoever beats us will be a decent outfit.
The problem is one decent outfit will go down, just as per last year. So we need a win soon, which is trite but also true. On performance terms we are close, they might be like buses and come back to back. One thing is for sure, our youngsters are looking good- does anyone not have Willis senior is not first choice now?
We look like depth is there at 9, for example, which is a bonus.  Miller too- played well, a reminder of happier times- and we seem to have depth up front in the front and back row.
All in all lots to be positive about providing we can get some league wins.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Bon Matin Tout Le Monde!
« on: November 16, 2019, 06:33:06 PM »
Good evening from Wales. Not going to watch the gane- got tickets for Marillion appearing with a classical quartet. I shall, if course, catch the game later.
I fear for the result - of the rugby rather than the music, but each to their own.
Enjoy especially those at the game, I hope you don't run out of "allez" s.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 15, 2019, 11:09:02 PM »
I don't want to punish Wasps for Sarries' sins, but, and it is a but, I expect us to take a stand. If we do not, then the club will be less likely to get my cash. I support Wasps, but I also support rugby as a whole, and that is what is hurt by them getting away with it.
If they get away with it, and we say nothing, then surely we are complicit?

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps and match day programs- telegraph
« on: November 15, 2019, 03:51:57 PM »
I thought the laptop might be full of porn, as recently our second halves have been a pile of wank.
I will get my coat.

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps and match day programs- telegraph
« on: November 14, 2019, 11:00:35 PM »
You guys did not let me down with the jokes....

Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens docked 35 points
« on: November 14, 2019, 11:24:44 AM »
Actually I can see this happening.  A possible league could be:

- Sacracens, Bath, and Bristol, then 1 of Us, Leicester and Exeter for England,
- Glasgow from Scotland, 
- Osprays, Scarlets  or Cardiff for Wales (I am thinking Osprays, but I don't know enough about Welsh Rugby to know who are the most popular),
- Leinster and Munster for Ireland and
- Stade, Toulon, Racing and Claremont for France (again I don't really know who the most popular / richest clubs are in France)

I would think crowd size and money would be the 2 criteria for competing. Maybe that is why they are so obviously sticking 2 fingers up at everybody else, they already have plans?

The Welsh don't have any cash, nor much in the way of large attendances. They are also rather unlikely to want such a league- derby pro 14 games draw big crowds, they thirst here for Scarlets vs Ospreys, Cardiff vs Dragons.  Watching a denuded ospreys team lose to Munster seconds on a wet Friday in Swansea has little appeal for most fans, sadly.

The problem with a super league is what happens when the Man City type owners come along. Frankly Tigers, Glaws and Wasps would be attractive packages for their name and history, and in the long run poor old Nige might find his pockets not deep enough. It would be a case of just desserts , but the damage to rugby would be immeasurable.



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