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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2019, 08:11:55 PM »
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Not sure I'd agree with that RBB. We're smashing them in the scrum and in the maul, but given the strength of our front row, you'd expect that. Been disappointed with the backs. Hopefully we'll see a bit more in the 2nd half

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2019, 08:14:32 PM »
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I then added a comment, as we appeared to usher them to the try line! Rose coloured and all that....
It was fine when I left it.....

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2019, 08:15:32 PM »
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Billy is having a really poor game. Our backs are not doing very well. Can't seem to pass or tackle.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 08:17:35 PM by NellyWellyWaspy »

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2019, 08:18:28 PM »
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Agree regarding the backs, Searle's ropey kick just cost us and Ross Neal seems totally anonymous given his size and stature.
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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2019, 08:19:23 PM »
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Half-time. Not really a classic, bit scrappy.

Very similar to a first team game. Scrum very much on top, as it should be, but they look like they could run through our defence every time they get a sniff of a broken field.

Impressed with the way Gaby is communicating both with the team and the ref. Owain James has looked good - fab pick up off the floor. 9 is slow to get the ball away and so we are not getting any go forward as they are too set. Agree that Billy's kicking (kicking all round to be fair) has been poor.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2019, 08:26:38 PM »
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and again ran straight through us. No line speed from the backs.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2019, 08:28:44 PM »
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and straight through again. Not one of our backs should be allowed a sniff at the main team

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2019, 08:35:24 PM »
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Much better there after that horror start to the second half.

Forwards looking good. Agree that Curran at 8 is playing well.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2019, 08:51:06 PM »
Thought Oghre has looked good. Harris too not bad. Searle has put in some nice enough passing, but the rest of the backline hasn't helped him at all. I'd have expected to see Neale running Roberts like 12 lines giving us front foot ball, but it's just not happening.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2019, 08:54:25 PM »
Didn't Neal get replaced by Sunni Jardine either at half time or just before?

I still think James has looked pretty decent most of the game too.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2019, 10:10:10 PM »
Cracking quality coverage by Saints. Not something we seem to be able to do even with our IT/Phone sponsors/partners.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2019, 06:49:26 AM »
If ever a game extinguishes the age old belief that forwards win games and backs decided how much then this was it. Wasps mullered Saints in the tight but poor defensive structure and powder puff attack from the Wasps backline lost the game.

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2019, 08:14:47 AM »
Frustrating game in the end.

Scrum - Really good, dominated all game
Line out - Functioned OK until replacement hooker came on (can't really put much blame on a young lad who won't have trained much with the squad and then has a series of clutch line outs - maybe should have been called to the front to make it easier for him)
Breakdown - Decent enough, good competition
Maul - Strong again
Front row - Looked strong in the loose, carried well and made some big hits. West looked fired up when he came on, Alo was good on the charge but his handling makes me nervous.
Second row - Cardell was his usual busy self and his try was good, staying onside, charging down and reacting quickest. TV3 was fine, decent enough for 7th choice lock, looks like he needs an extra 3/4 of a stone of bulk and to work on his leg drive for the Prem though.
Back row - Went well. Ben Morris was good at the line out and breakdown and Kieran Curran had a good game at 8.
Half-backs - Clement looked like he's copying Robson's current form, box kicks to touch were good but otherwise they were poor and let Wandies run back at us. Too slow to get the ball away (I'll give him a p[ass on the 'tache as it's still November). Searle was OK aside from the kicking but it was notable how that last year Umaga was great in these games and showed his talents, I expected more from Billy. Replacements didn't have much time and I didn't see any big change when they came on.
Centres - Disappointing. Neal should have been running hard and fast down the 10/12 channel. Jardine distributed well but kicking and tackling was poor. Anderson didn't show up much. Defense was iffy all game.
Back Three - Wings didn't get much of a chance. Showed they were fast but not much else, but they are both young. James I was impressed with: defence wasn't perfect but he came into the line well, took a tricky high ball under pressure, great pick up and some lovely play to avoid a tackler and clear down the line plus a good try (although I could be wrong as haven't re-watched but it looked to me like he might have lost control as he went over).

To me it was like most of our games this season: a strong performance from the pack, dominating the scrum and competing at the breakdown but let down by handling errors, half-backs that struggle to orchestrate the attack and  poor defence outside of the tight areas. In the end close but not quite there.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 09:04:25 AM by Jac A »

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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2019, 08:55:50 AM »
Great summary Jac, thanks.

It did seem like watching the 1st team, same good points, same frailties. Went to sleep and let them grab a couple of quick tries, butchered opportunities to score, blew it at the end.


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Re: 'A' team to kick-off Premiership Rugby Shield at Northampton
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2019, 10:00:43 AM »
Great summary Jac, thanks.

It did seem like watching the 1st team, same good points, same frailties. Went to sleep and let them grab a couple of quick tries, butchered opportunities to score, blew it at the end.

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Enjoyed the game and the excellent coverage, breakdown reffed well, offside, less so. Jac's description is on the money

The defending looked too often like they had discussed alignment on the coach to the game but that wouldn't have mattered with some heads up in the red zone. I am liking the scrum and the organisation around the maul. If we add our traditional strengths - then this is a club going forwards. I'd be annoyed given two chances at the end to win it that the lineout failed. But I'd be mainly pleased as a coach that the team played well and didn't allow conceding tame scores, to get them down.

One area as Jac said - the 10/12/13 connection, didn't function and our ball was too ponderous. We had enough ball in the right places, but allowed (admittedly a rapid Saints backline) far too much time to realign and defend.