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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2021, 07:10:52 AM »
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World Rugby to limit contact training to prevent injuries and protect players - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/58659263

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2021, 07:13:40 AM »
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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2021, 07:51:26 AM »
According to Harlequins, the secret to their success last season was a 90% reduction in contact in training Ö

Overall a sensible move to take into account player welfare. Will be interesting to see how it impacts teams that have a highly attritional style of play.

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2021, 01:10:51 PM »
That's sounds great, but when you read that the average player currently does 21 minutes a week, will reducing it by 6 mins really make a huge difference?

I get it will make a difference for those players at the other extreme of 140 mins, but equally if the current average is 21 mins, there must be players doing almost none at the moment....

As for quins, it would be interesting to know what their current number of minutes is, if they reduced it by 90%

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2021, 01:49:09 PM »
That's sounds great, but when you read that the average player currently does 21 minutes a week, will reducing it by 6 mins really make a huge difference?

I get it will make a difference for those players at the other extreme of 140 mins, but equally if the current average is 21 mins, there must be players doing almost none at the moment....

As for quins, it would be interesting to know what their current number of minutes is, if they reduced it by 90%

About a 30% reduction is pretty significant.

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2021, 02:24:11 PM »
The BBC report quoted this:

World Rugby guidance will limit full-contact training to 15 minutes a week after research showed 35-40% of injuries occurred in training.

That does NOT mean that all those injuries were sustained in contacts. I would suspect that the majority were not.

A trip here, a fall there. A pulled muscle, ligament, hamstring. Dropping a weight in the gym, lifting too much weight in the gym, and so on. All in training, none contact related injuries.

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2021, 11:02:12 PM »
This could change the game for the better. Instead of wasting time designing and perfecting caterpillars, trucks and trailers, perhaps more time can be spent on handling skills, keeping the ball alive and off-loading. None of those things need contact training, just play touch rugby. Iím think here of the touch rugby where any form of touch is touch. Itís a game that has to played at pace and the only way to score is to keep the ball alive, keep off-loading and keep hunting for space.

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2021, 12:15:12 AM »
This could change the game for the better. Instead of wasting time designing and perfecting caterpillars, trucks and trailers, perhaps more time can be spent on handling skills, keeping the ball alive and off-loading. None of those things need contact training, just play touch rugby. Iím think here of the touch rugby where any form of touch is touch. Itís a game that has to played at pace and the only way to score is to keep the ball alive, keep off-loading and keep hunting for space.

Perhaps this is where 7ís , the planned 12ís ( what happened to 10ís?)  is taking us.

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2021, 10:10:18 AM »
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This could change the game for the better.

Only if teams actually want to play an open game. Like the rule changes, teams who insist in grinding out forward s tries to detriment of anything else will still find ways to do that. Mindsets have to change. Quinns last season, Wasps the one before, show what can be done, but then you get the lions tour where the game took a few paces backwards....

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Re: Contact Training Restriction
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2021, 12:06:43 PM »
I agree we must protect players, but I do wonder if this gives enough time for players to learn effective and importantly safe tackle, rucking, and mauling techniques? Would hate to see this lead to more injuries in games due to poorer techniques.