Saints Match Thread

[mike909]

Is our self belief starting to waver?

Lacking leadership a little

[Vespula Vulgaris]

Booj drops off a tackle in our 22 but we steal and Robson clears.

[Neils]

Quite a number of tackles off the ball. Seems to be Malakai getting a fair bit.

[Vespula Vulgaris]

HT and we're still in it.  We really need someone to step up as a leader on the pitch and get in the refs ear about the constant infringements. 

Positives: Willis as always, Fekitoa, and our defence is looking quite sound.

Negatives: We look a little rudderless, we don't seem to know where the 22 is, and we are falling off tackles like we're being paid to.

[AKWasp]

Defence very good on the whole but shows how lethal our mistakes can be.

Whoever said Carley was a good ref, I’ll have to politely disagree, scrum time Brookes is being pushed right into, doesn’t call turnover penalties despite Saints players clearing out from the side and even from our side of the ruck.

We could do with a bit more composure with the ball and chasing our kicks better but all in all were still very much in this game and have as good a chance as any to win. 

[Hymenoptera]

We fall off another tackle, a couple of phases later they're in at the corner and we don't event try to stop them runnign towards the posts for an easier conversion.

10-14

That annoyed me, there were two there that could have put him into the corner and they just gave up?, wouldnt see Salaries do that.
We are making this as difficult as possible, individual errors are making us play in our own half / 22, we wont beat any team playing where we are. I'm all for Jacob pushing for kicks for meters but not at the expense of a failed penalty. And Minozzi can't kick for shit.

[mike909]

Whoever said Carley was a good ref, I’ll have to politely disagree, scrum time Brookes is being pushed right into, doesn’t call turnover penalties despite Saints players clearing out from the side and even from our side of the ruck.

100%, I'd be embarrassed to have got away with that as loosehead prop, and the breakdown is just painful. Carley keeps allowing hands in a ruck, its not about being on feet, its being there before its a ruck and getting hands clearly on the ball, when second player is in, its a ruck and no hands....regardless of how you are standing, or not.

We're being too honest on this and are not in Carley's ear.

[AKWasp]

Whoever said Carley was a good ref, I’ll have to politely disagree, scrum time Brookes is being pushed right into, doesn’t call turnover penalties despite Saints players clearing out from the side and even from our side of the ruck.

100%, I'd be embarrassed to have got away with that as loosehead prop, and the breakdown is just painful. Carley keeps allowing hands in a ruck, its not about being on feet, its being there before its a ruck and getting hands clearly on the ball, when second player is in, its a ruck and no hands....regardless of how you are standing, or not.

We're being too honest on this and are not in Carley's ear.

I’d love to have a fan from each side sat with the TMO who can just be in his ear and ask ‘why is that allowed?’ Or ‘why haven’t they given this decision?’ Because it would make the game what the fans want, we could ask about off sides and ruck laws.

Also (as mentioned by Austin) why is it not obstruction when every decoy runner is getting ahead of the ball and colliding with our inside defender? Stops inside defence and wrap around from happening and often prevents the jackaler from getting to the ball.

[mike909]

Oh god....no...

[Neils]

Oops

[will311293]

Foley has never been a particularly good ref in my eyes and we seem to always be the ones on the end of his bad decisions.

Glad to be in it but need points to stay touching distance in front of Leicester and Sarries. Good news is Irish are taking a pasting.

[SteveTodd]

LI just scored a 4th try, do they get a bonus point for it even if they lose the match?

[will311293]

Yep they do. What a stupid mistake from us in the meantime.

[Hymenoptera]

Had enough of Robson this season

[mike909]

Carley enforcing Law 14, but only for Saints