Win/loss ratios with current Premiership Refs

[MarleyWasp]

I've been working out what our win/loss ratios are for each ref still in the top flight, going back to 2007/08.

It makes for interesting reading:

Ref   M   W   D   L   Win %   Lose %
Anthony Woodthorpe   1   1   0   0   100.00%   0.00%
Tom Foley   16   14   0   2   87.50%   12.50%
Karl Dickson   5   4   1   0   80.00%   0.00%
Ian Tempest   13   9   0   4   69.23%   30.77%
Craig Maxwell-Keys   18   12   0   6   66.67%   33.33%
Christophe Ridley   5   3   0   2   60.00%   40.00%
Luke Pearce   24   12   0   12   50.00%   50.00%
Wayne Barnes   25   12   0   13   48.00%   52.00%
Matthew Carley   16   7   0   9   43.75%   56.25%
Andrew Jackson   4   1   0   3   25.00%   75.00%
Hamish Smales   1   0   0   1   0.00%   100.00%
Adam Leal   1   0   0   1   0.00%   100.00%

[Neils]

Wow well done.

Some of the "baddies" aren't so bad after all.

[hookender]

It’s  why I won’t have a word said against Karl Dickson.

I thought we have had Hamish a couple of times, or did it just fell twice as bad?

[Shugs]

I think it was just that he made enough mistakes to fill two games (easily).

[MarleyWasp]

It’s  why I won’t have a word said against Karl Dickson.

I thought we have had Hamish a couple of times, or did it just fell twice as bad?

He's been a regular touch judge for us, along with Adam Leal.

[hookender]

It’s  why I won’t have a word said against Karl Dickson.

I thought we have had Hamish a couple of times, or did it just fell twice as bad?

He's been a regular touch judge for us, along with Adam Leal.

That’s probably it .thanks for getting those figures together. Must remember to put Tom Foley on my Xmas card list

[Bloke in North Dorset]

That's quite interesting, thanks.

Looking at the totals our win ratio is 58% so that's Luke Pearce and below.

However, as we saw this week, our loses are more to do with our bad play and/or opponent's  good play rather than the ref. I suppose if you want to blame a ref you'd need to look at games where there was only one score difference. If you're consistently on the wrong end of those there might be a case to answer.

[ricohchezwasp]

I know they dumped him but what about that nightmare j p Doyle !!

[MarleyWasp]

I know they dumped him but what about that nightmare j p Doyle !!

29 matches, 13 wins, 2 draws and 14 losses, 44.83% win rate

[Eezamarlowman]

Thanks for posting MarleyWasp. Very interesting reading.
Whilst I don’t think for 1 second that CMK was the reason we lost ( we are completely to blame for that performance), my heart sinks whenever I see he is officiating our games. It’s his constant stop/start style, it ruins the spectacle in my opinion. We don’t seem to fare much better with Barnes judging by your analysis , but at least the watch is more enjoyable.

[mike909]

Thanks for posting MarleyWasp. Very interesting reading.
Whilst I don’t think for 1 second that CMK was the reason we lost ( we are completely to blame for that performance), my heart sinks whenever I see he is officiating our games. It’s his constant stop/start style, it ruins the spectacle in my opinion. We don’t seem to fare much better with Barnes judging by your analysis , but at least the watch is more enjoyable.

A big +1 to MarleyWasp

Me too re CMK, it's stop start and random pedantry, especially with the scrum. You could see that "must whistle" feeling in him when he gave a penalty against us for rolling after being tackled - it was nothing out of the ordinary - only to ignore a roll and seal minutes later. I realise the breakdown is hard to ref, but you do need a feel for the game....

[InBetweenWasp]

So many variables to this, but is definitely interesting.

e.g. Our win ratio under Barnes might not be great, but that may well be because we’ve been against stronger opposition, or its a much more competitive fixture.

Similarly, with someone like, say, Foley.  Is this because of his style, or because he generally gets sent to ref us when it’s a nothing game, or like a Wasps vs bottom of the table type fixture?

[MarleyWasp]

With Barnes, he has done a number of our matches with tougher opposition.

With Foley it's not so clear cut. His last two Wasps matches were against Exeter and Bristol...

[coddy]

Thanks for posting MarleyWasp. Very interesting reading.
Whilst I don’t think for 1 second that CMK was the reason we lost ( we are completely to blame for that performance), my heart sinks whenever I see he is officiating our games. It’s his constant stop/start style, it ruins the spectacle in my opinion. We don’t seem to fare much better with Barnes judging by your analysis , but at least the watch is more enjoyable.

I completely agree, CMK makes viewing a game hard work. I'd hazard a guess our wins when he is officiating is despite of his decision making rather than due to it.

I'd be interested to know what his penalty count percentages are against Wasps compared to our opposition.

[MarleyWasp]

Given I worked this out whilst watching TV it was not the most accurate and it turned out I'd made a mistake with Karl Dickson. I therefore decided to do a comphrensive check going as far back as possible for League, Cup and European games, which turned out to be back as far as the 1998/99 season. That's 738 games, although two have seen the referee replaced. In those cases I've marked it as one match for both.

In order of win percentage, the full table is as follows (Current RFU and European officials in bold):

Referee            P   W   D   L   Win %
Adam Jones              1   1   0   0   100%
Alexandre Ruiz                 2   2   0   0   100%
Andrew Brace              2   2   0   0   100%
Andrew Macpherson      1   1   0   0   100%
Andrew McMenemy      2   2   0   0   100%
Andy Ireland              1   1   0   0   100%
Anthony Woodthorpe      1   1   0   0   100%
Ben Breakspear              1   1   0   0   100%
Bryce Lawrence              1   1   0   0   100%
Carlo Damasco              1   1   0   0   100%
Cedric Marchat              1   1   0   0   100%
Chris Reeks              2   2   0   0   100%
Chuck Muir              1   1   0   0   100%
Claudio Giacomel      1   1   0   0   100%
Colin Hawke              1   1   0   0   100%
Craig Evans              1   1   0   0   100%
Doug Chapman              1   1   0   0   100%
Darren Gamage              1   1   0   0   100%
David Changleng      1   1   0   0   100%
David Davies              1   1   0   0   100%
David McHugh              2   2   0   0   100%
David Wilkinson              2   2   0   0   100%
Gareth Simmonds      2   2   0   0   100%
Geraint Ashton-Jones      2   2   0   0   100%
Gerard Borreani              1   1   0   0   100%
Giovanni Morandin      1   1   0   0   100%
Hugh Watkins                1   1   0   0   100%
Ian Davies                      1   1   0   0   100%
Jean-Christophe Gastou   1   1   0   0   100%
Joel Jutge                      2   2   0   0   100%
Jonathan Kaplan      1   1   0   0   100%
Laurent Cardona      2   2   0   0   100%
Malcolm Changleng      2   2   0   0   100%
Nika Amashukeli      1   1   0   0   100%
Paddy O'Brien              1   1   0   0   100%
Paul Adams              1   1   0   0   100%
Peter Allan                      1   1   0   0   100%
Peter Fitzgibbon              1   1   0   0   100%
Rhys Thomas              1   1   0   0   100%
Sean Gallagher              1   1   0   0   100%
Steve Lander              21   18   0   3   86%
Tom Foley                      17   14   0   3   82%
Chris Rees                        4   3   0   1   75%
Christophe Berdos      8   6   0   2   75%
Joel Dumé                      4   3   0   1   75%
Neil Paterson              4   3   0   1   75%
Nigel Williams              4   3   0   1   75%
Brian Campsall              10   7   0   3   70%
Ian Tempest              13   9   0   4   69%
Alain Rolland              12   8   1   3   67%
Alan Lewis                      12   8   0   4   67%
Chris White              36   24   2   10   67%
Clayton Thomas              3   2   0   1   67%
Craig Maxwell-Keys      18   12   0   6   67%
Geoff Warren              3   2   0   1   67%
J Barnard            3   2   0   1   67%
John Lacey         9   6   0   3   67%
Karl Dickson         6   4   1   1   67%
Mathieu Raynal         6   4   0   2   67%
Neil Hennessy         3   2   0   1   67%
Steve Leyshon              9   6   0   3   67%
Robin Goodliffe         11   7   1   3   64%
Andrew Small         24   15   1   8   63%
David Rose         15   9   0   6   60%
Roy Maybank         20   12   0   8   60%
Dave Pearson         27   16   1   10   59%
Wayne Barnes         31   18   0   13   58%
Christophe Ridley      7   4   0   3   57%
Nigel Yates         7   4   0   3   57%
Rob Debney         16   9   2   5   56%
Ashley Rowden          22   12   3   7   55%
Dean Richards         24   12   1   11   50%
Donal Courtney         2   1   0   1   50%
Dudley Phillips         2   1   0   1   50%
George Clancy         8   4   1   3   50%
Graham Hughes         2   1   0   1   50%
Greg Garner         20   10   1   9   50%
Llyr Ap Geraint-Roberts   2   1   0   1   50%
Nigel Whitehouse      2   1   1   0   50%
Pascal Gauzere         2   1   0   1   50%
Paul Honiss         2   1   0   1   50%
Romain Poite         12   6   0   6   50%
Tony Spreadbury      20   10   0   10   50%
Matt Carley         17   8   0   9   47%
Nigel Owens         15   7   0   8   47%
Luke Pearce         26   12   0   14   46%
JP Doyle            29   13   2   14   45%
Sean Davey         16   7   0   9   44%
Ed Morrison         10   4   0   6   40%
Marius Mitrea         5   2   1   2   40%
Leighton Hodges      3   1   0   2   33%
Matthew O'Grady      3   1   0   2   33%
Michael Hudson         3   1   0   2   33%
Rob Dickson         3   1   0   2   33%
Stewart Piercey         3   1   1   1   33%
Martin Fox            20   6   0   14   30%
Andrew Jackson         5   1   0   4   20%
Jerome Garces         5   1   2   2   20%
Tim Wigglesworth      17   3   0   14   18%
Adam Leal            2   0   0   2   0%
Antonio Lombardi      1   0   0   1   0%
Ben Blain            1   0   0   1   0%
Ben Whitehouse         2   0   0   2   0%
Bertie Smith         1   0   0   1   0%
Dan Jones            1   0   0   1   0%
Didier Mene         1   0   0   1   0%
Eric Darriere         1   0   0   1   0%
Giulio de Santis         1   0   0   1   0%
Greg MacDonald         3   0   0   3   0%
Hamish Smales         2   0   0   2   0%
Iain Ramage         2   0   0   2   0%
Jack Makepeace         1   0   0   1   0%
James Jones         2   0   0   2   0%
Mike Adamson         1   0   0   1   0%
Sara Cox            1   0   0   1   0%
Steve Lee            2   0   0   2   0%
Stuart Dickinson      1   0   0   1   0%
Trevor Fisher         1   0   0   1   0%