There seems to be lots of conversations about how good we actually are. For me the issue is we have 3 distinct groups of players the first are top premiership quality the likes of Robson, Launchbury, West, Brookes, Young, Willis etc. Then there are youngsters with promise like Atkinson, Barbeary, Wully, etc. And then there are players that for me are the issue, the ones that while decent players are not going to win you games Vellacot, MLB, Porter, Gabby, Lima, Miller, JTA, Douglas, Gopparth, Gaskell, Valianu, etc and we just have too many of them. I’m not saying they are bad players or lack effort they just aren’t quite good enough. I feel bad for mentioning Jimmy in that list as in the past he has almost been superman like for us in some games but I think age is finally catching up with him