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« on: October 31, 2021, 07:30:19 AM »
A Wasps Rumour -

We are interested in Exeter's Sam Skinner apparently.

Match report - Bath win hinged on the red card apparently.
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Re: TRP
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2021, 08:13:25 AM »
Skinner - interesting. Gritty and an all year round availability.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2021, 08:15:09 AM »
Skinner could make sense.  There’s a chance we were trying to sign him, or had expected him to sign but he opted to stay at the 11th hour and it was after that we went and got Fifita.

By all accounts there was an international lock very close to signing who chose to do another year at his current club who were one of the winning clubs in the prem.

Part of me hoped it was Isikwe.

Big question on Skinner would be why he would leave his brother - that doesn’t happen very often in Rugby.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2021, 08:15:55 AM »
Not sure how much I would believe Fissler as he seems to be repeating things he hears on podcasts nowadays, the rumour about Ashton having a training ground punch up was on the rugby pod 2 weeks ago.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2021, 08:25:37 AM »
A Wasps Rumour -

We are interested in Exeter's Sam Skinner apparently.

Match report - Bath win hinged on the red card apparently.

On Skinner, Chiefs were tight lipped about who signed what, other than saying that 30 different players signed anywhere between 1 and 4 year deals early in 2020, and Skinner was one of those. Must assume his was a two year deal expiring at the end of the season. As I have said before, this half term is when the clubs let players know they either have a new contract on the table, or not. Those that do not are usually given permission to talk to other clubs (that's only fair). The ones who are offered a contract but do not accept are left hanging until January. We know that Chiefs were tight up against the cap, so it can be little surprise they will be offloading. My only thought is that Skinner is not EQP is he (he is Scottish tied, yes)? So, he would, numerically, be replacing another non-EQP player in the squad (not necessarily of the same position).

As to the red card. You could argue that, except, for 8 minutes both teams were on 14 players, and Wasps do not have a stellar record (actually, it is quite abysmal) of capitalising on numerical advantage, even 15 vs 13. We often seem to go in to panic, must get a try or two, mode.

Our red zone conversion rate yesterday was quite poor, from what look like trying too hard.

I think the key yesterday was Dan playing. He was far from on form and whilst you may have seen some passes going astray, he wasn't where he should have been a lot. Are we then stuck with Porter and Hougaard for a few matches? I think so. If so, which of them starts? Hougaard really needs to get his mind in to gear if he wants to start.

I know that Watson had what was, for him, a good game yesterday, but I still think Crossdale is the better full back. A long kick to Watson is not a bad defensive move for our opposition. He doesn't seem so decisive, for example when he let the ball bounce in the second half, hoping it would pop up in to his hands. It didn't, leaving him scrambling to make a poor clearance kick. When he runs, he runs and thinks like a sevens player, looking for wide open space to run around defenders/chasers. He isn't going to find it. What he does find is three or four tacklers, and none of our supporting players. He finds himself out of position and runners can ghost past him. Crossdale has better positional awareness, kicks better, and links up to our players better. He is a full back. Watson is a sevens fast runner.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2021, 08:58:23 AM »
A Wasps Rumour -

We are interested in Exeter's Sam Skinner apparently.

Match report - Bath win hinged on the red card apparently.

On Skinner, Chiefs were tight lipped about who signed what, other than saying that 30 different players signed anywhere between 1 and 4 year deals early in 2020, and Skinner was one of those. Must assume his was a two year deal expiring at the end of the season. As I have said before, this half term is when the clubs let players know they either have a new contract on the table, or not. Those that do not are usually given permission to talk to other clubs (that's only fair). The ones who are offered a contract but do not accept are left hanging until January. We know that Chiefs were tight up against the cap, so it can be little surprise they will be offloading. My only thought is that Skinner is not EQP is he (he is Scottish tied, yes)? So, he would, numerically, be replacing another non-EQP player in the squad (not necessarily of the same position).

Interesting about non-EQP... Is YY a leaving non-EQP? Alternatively Minozzi?

I'd be happy about Skinner, albeit about as believable as the Devoto rumour to some extent. And TRP hasn't been reliable this past season...
« Last Edit: October 31, 2021, 09:18:24 AM by HDAWG »

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2021, 09:17:23 AM »
Young isn't an EQP has he's captured and capped by Wales.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2021, 09:18:46 AM »
Young isn't an EQP has he's captured and capped by Wales.

Meant non-EQP, edited now

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Re: TRP
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2021, 09:27:19 AM »
Not sure the red card was a help to Wasps. Health concerns and impact on future games aside, I think on his current form I would trade the man advantage for Jimmy staying on the pitch. Without meaning to disrespect the other players, Jimmy's skill and experience in the team links players in attack and defence, taking pressure off Umaga. It is sort of like Sale when AJ MacGinty isn't playing.

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2021, 11:38:27 AM »
I agree on the full back debate that Crossdale is a more natural fit. Watson must be giving something that the coaches are seeing. For me he can be dangerous running from deep. With him, Kibirige and Bassett we have serious pace in the back three. It’s a nice problem to have. What does seem certain is that Minozzi is now 3rd in line.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2021, 01:27:44 PM »
Skinner - interesting. Gritty and an all year round availability.

Is he not in the Scotland picture anymore then?
Think he’s a good player but imagine this will be a Gaskell replacement.


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Re: TRP
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2021, 01:39:45 PM »
Skinner - interesting. Gritty and an all year round availability.

Is he not in the Scotland picture anymore then?
Think he’s a good player but imagine this will be a Gaskell replacement.

AFAIK, he still plays. He has played twice this year (vs Italy and France). He is in their Autumn Nations Series Squad also.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2021, 01:48:04 PM »
Yes, my mistake, he is involved internationally - which possibly tempers the appeal a little bit.

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2021, 09:15:10 AM »
Suppose though that depending on Gaskell leaving or not.... we would have Cardall, Launchbury, Stooke, Fifita, Vukasinovic & Skinner.

You would then say that Skinner could replicate Gaskell in terms of line out and backrow/lock. Moreover, you think that Fifita/Stooke are permeant availabilities unlike Rowlands was. So we could incorporate a Skinner would may be occasionally selected.

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Re: TRP
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2021, 12:00:30 PM »
A Wasps Rumour -

We are interested in Exeter's Sam Skinner apparently.
Telegraph reporting he has signed for Edinburgh. They also say Jonny Hill is off to Sale to replace de Jagger.