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Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« on: January 09, 2022, 01:37:47 PM »
Injuries and Covid left Wasps in mire — but they will find a way back
Stephen Jones

Sunday January 09 2022, 12.01am, The Sunday Times

If you are struggling as a team and a club, who would you least want to play in the immediate future? Most probably, you would want to avoid Leicester Tigers, steaming along with an immaculate record, and Toulouse, Europe’s aristocratic champions.

Tough luck. Wasps play the charging Tigers today in Coventry, and next weekend take on Toulouse in the European Champions Cup. At present the stated Wasps vision of becoming one of the elite clubs in Europe, challenging Leicester in the Midlands and other clubs wherever they play, seems to be hopelessly tattered, with difficulties seemingly everywhere.

So why do I believe that Wasps may well in time fulfil their ambitions, and that they have the basics laid down to become a club as big as any around?

They have been savaged in several ways by Covid. Their costs are spiraling in relation to income and average attendance for home games has fallen from 16,000 to just under 10,000. The need to cut costs has led to a loss of personnel in marketing, communications and other key areas.

Certainly, good fortune seems to have given way to catastrophe. Wasps have suffered injury devastation that is unprecedented in my experience. The whole thing was best summed up when they played Munster in a European pool game just under a month ago — or at least, when they tried to play Munster.
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On the morning of the game they were already having to cope with the absence of 18 senior players because of injury. Their two key forwards, the captain Joe Launchbury and the massive and influential flanker, Jack Willis, have not played a single second this season. Both Tom West and Ben Harris, starting props, have been missing almost all season, while behind the scrum, Malakai Fekitoa, their best back, was injured in the first game of the season and has not been seen since.

Just to put the boot in, Covid claimed four more players on the morning of the Munster game and during it, Brad Shields, who has been valiant all season as stand-in captain, was shown a red card. It was rather typical of Wasps’ fortunes that a few days after the game, Shields was exonerated and had therefore served a sentence without a crime.

The background does not appear encouraging. Since the club moved from High Wycombe to Coventry in 2014, one account reckoned that they had lost about £40 million.

When they switched, many expressed concern at the way they had funded their new cost base, largely as a result of a retail bond scheme, which at the time apparently left them open to demands for repayment in a reasonably short time.
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The sheer unpredictability of Covid and its impact does put finances on a precarious balance. Wasps are far from alone among professional sport clubs at the moment, though that does not diminish their concerns.

But there is an underlying picture that seems more encouraging. Recently, investors in the retail bond scheme agreed to a series of proposals that will help Wasps to maintain their finances and remove a little of the repayment pressure. (not seen this before)

It is also important to remember that Wasps are not renting at the CBS Arena — they own it (and rent it to the Championship football club Coventry City) and also own the casino and the adjoining hotel, with a second hotel to be built. There is a brand-new railway station at the complex, there are new catering facilities — and there will be further income and publicity as they host the Rugby 7s, wrestling and judo at the Commonwealth Games this year.

Their income will now come from several sources, as opposed to depending entirely on the oval ball.
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Recently, they made a highly significant addition to their buildings portfolio when opening their palatial training centre in Henley-in-Arden — this from a club that until 2015 trained in a smelly old gym. Their coaching group, led by Lee Blackett and the former All Black coach John Mitchell, is rated as highly as any.

Their supporter base may not be as big as it was when they first switched to Coventry and gave away free tickets, a practice they have now severely restricted. Those were the days of 30,000 crowds.

But the atmosphere on big-game days has been excellent and on Boxing Day, despite the tribulations, they attracted nearly 14,000 for their game — valiantly beating London Irish despite the strictures on their squad availability.

Honours appear well beyond them this season but optimism has been generated by the signing of the powerhouse Springbok prop Vincent Koch from Saracens.

The famed Wasps community remains strong, and perhaps above all, they retain their traditional fighting spirit on the field even when some of the players have hardly trained with each other, and which they once showed as a tiny club dominating Europe.

There are no certainties on the sporting scene, now or ever. Some of the numbers do not add up at present. But up close, the heartbeat is easily detectable.

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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2022, 01:39:14 PM »
Thanks for posting
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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2022, 01:44:02 PM »
Yes, thanks.
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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2022, 01:47:24 PM »
+1. Perhaps in some way, the present difficulties will prove a learning situation for players and coaches and for leaders within the team such that when nearer full strength, we'll be unstoppable....

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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2022, 01:57:58 PM »
Thanks for posting but I’m afraid I’m very sceptical about Wasps at the moment. I hear a lot of promises which none have been fulfilled. We were struggling to repay the bond scheme prior to the pandemic.

Let’s hope things improve but all the bad news so far today it would be nice to hear something positive very soon from the club

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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2022, 02:01:29 PM »
I hear a lot of promises which none have been fulfilled.

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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2022, 02:20:27 PM »
One of the richest clubs in Europe being the main one and 8 years later we seem to be one of the poorest.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2022, 02:24:30 PM »
One of the richest clubs in Europe being the main one and 8 years later we seem to be one of the poorest.

How so?  We have one of the biggest grounds, many non-rugby businesses, a stunning training centre.  It's just we work within the salary cap, that doesn't mean the club isn't better off than others. I get that it's really disappointing to be in the position we are in, but are you suggesting that we should be doing a Sarries and buying some success by cheating?
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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2022, 02:39:32 PM »
One of the richest clubs in Europe being the main one and 8 years later we seem to be one of the poorest.



How so?  We have one of the biggest grounds, many non-rugby businesses, a stunning training centre.  It's just we work within the salary cap, that doesn't mean the club isn't better off than others. I get that it's really disappointing to be in the position we are in, but are you suggesting that we should be doing a Sarries and buying some success by cheating?

We are in massive debt. If all the teams are playing within the cap then we are poorly coached or our recruitment is poor or both.

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2022, 02:55:17 PM »
One of the richest clubs in Europe being the main one and 8 years later we seem to be one of the poorest.



How so?  We have one of the biggest grounds, many non-rugby businesses, a stunning training centre.  It's just we work within the salary cap, that doesn't mean the club isn't better off than others. I get that it's really disappointing to be in the position we are in, but are you suggesting that we should be doing a Sarries and buying some success by cheating?

We are in massive debt. If all the teams are playing within the cap then we are poorly coached or our recruitment is poor or both.

Two very different points there.  On the first, it's very common for businesses to take on large amounts of investment in one form or another to grow. In the grand scheme of things the amount we are indebted for is pretty small. As long as the business is viable it's not an issue.

One the second I'm kinda with you.
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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2022, 09:45:15 PM »
One of the richest clubs in Europe being the main one and 8 years later we seem to be one of the poorest.

I don’t think this was ever a promise.  The point made at the time of the move was that we’d have the highest revenue of any of the Clubs in Europe… albeit it’s hardly an apples to apples comparison.

The finances have been rocky that’s for sure and made worse by COVID which hits us more acutely than other Clubs because of the nature of the income of the group being reliant on footfall.

Fundamentally, we’ve brought an asset that Derek and Co felt was under-utilised and a cost base that was too high.

They’re sorting the utilising piece; going from no sporting tenants to 2 + the netball (I think they still play there?) plus either had pre-COVID or have in 2022 their busiest year for events.

They’re also seeking to grow the site with further revenues from the new Hotel.

The reduced salary cap for the next few years might be hindering the playing squad but it’s pretty handy for the group.

Assuming we get through the re-financing piece I think we see a much better upturn in the finances and our stability.

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2022, 09:57:13 PM »
Re-financing would have been a plan (alongside others) from the start. We’re in good shape and will go from strength to strength. Ironically with the cap limitations we’ll build our balance sheet quicker than expected which I guess is no bad thing. Lots of talk about recruitment etc. We’ve no idea who is coming or going in totality yet so that’s not a call that can be made. I believe we’re in a good position and will push on from here.

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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2022, 10:53:14 PM »
Re-financing would have been a plan (alongside others) from the start. We’re in good shape and will go from strength to strength. Ironically with the cap limitations we’ll build our balance sheet quicker than expected which I guess is no bad thing. Lots of talk about recruitment etc. We’ve no idea who is coming or going in totality yet so that’s not a call that can be made. I believe we’re in a good position and will push on from here.

Shugs, I tend to agree with you.

There revenue from the non rugby activity should significantly increase this year, as hopefullly the rugby income stream does as well. Results like today can only attract more punters in. There are still many of Wasps regulars, myself included, who have stayed away because they do not want to mingle among crowds, whilst the Covid situation is still a pandemic. That should become clearer by the end of February.

My own call, is heavily influenced by the fact that my wife takes immunosuppressants. I guess there are a significant number, in the upper age brackets, with underlying medical conditions, who do not want take more risks than they need to.

As I have mentioned before, Derek has always stated that the non rugby activity will underpin the sport side.

From a playing perspective, I am certain that the squad will kick on from today. The next two weeks will be tough but of less importance than what follows in terms of this season. The impending return of a number of big hitters can only improve overall performances on the park.


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Re: Not all grim news - Stephen Jones in the Sunday Times
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2022, 05:44:07 PM »
One of the richest clubs in Europe being the main one and 8 years later we seem to be one of the poorest.



How so?  We have one of the biggest grounds, many non-rugby businesses, a stunning training centre.  It's just we work within the salary cap, that doesn't mean the club isn't better off than others. I get that it's really disappointing to be in the position we are in, but are you suggesting that we should be doing a Sarries and buying some success by cheating?

We are in massive debt. If all the teams are playing within the cap then we are poorly coached or our recruitment is poor or both.

We're basically in the middle of the table at the moment. Surely the worst you could therefore ascribe to us is averagely coached and recruited.

Then we look at our injury list, and I'd say that at the very least solidifies our "average" rating, and probably improves it to a "well" one, just perhaps not yet "excellent".

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2022, 07:05:34 PM »
Our recruitment has been excellent. We’ve picked up Championship prospects in Frost and Hislop who have been great. We went and got Fifita who has been good and Stooke has been outstanding. I’d say Mehson, Crossdale and Millar/Mills have all added to the squad. And so far this year we’ve acquired one of the worlds best tight heads. It’s ok for me.