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[Bloke in North Dorset]

I have seen refs warn the 9, threaten to give a free kick, but bottle it and not do so despite persistent infringements.

It’s a penalty offence? No wonder refs are reluctant to blow. Make it a free kick and I’ll bet they’ll blow more often.

[Rossm]

I have seen refs warn the 9, threaten to give a free kick, but bottle it and not do so despite persistent infringements.

It’s a penalty offence? No wonder refs are reluctant to blow. Make it a free kick and I’ll bet they’ll blow more often.

Penalty is a bit strong. Ref could always reverse the scrum?

[NellyWellyWaspy]

I have seen refs warn the 9, threaten to give a free kick, but bottle it and not do so despite persistent infringements.

It’s a penalty offence? No wonder refs are reluctant to blow. Make it a free kick and I’ll bet they’ll blow more often.

Is it? I thought it was just a free kick offence?

[Nigel Med]

I have seen refs warn the 9, threaten to give a free kick, but bottle it and not do so despite persistent infringements.

It’s a penalty offence? No wonder refs are reluctant to blow. Make it a free kick and I’ll bet they’ll blow more often.

Is it? I thought it was just a free kick offence?

It’s neither pen or free kick, the sanction is a scrum awarded to the opposition. Law 15.17 Ending a ruck. “When the ball has been clearly won by a team at the ruck, and is available to be played, the referee calls “use it”, after which the ball must be played away from the ruck within (note within, not after) five seconds. Sanction: Scrum”

[baldpaul101]

Thanks Nigel.

Can you shed any light on any technical reason why the oppo counting down the 5 seconds would be stopped by the ref?

[hookender]

Thanks Nigel.

Can you shed any light on any technical reason why the oppo counting down the 5 seconds would be stopped by the ref?

Probably comes under the same context as shouting at the referee.

[Neils]

Now against the EAs we all go 5-4-3-2-1.

[Nigel Med]

Thanks Nigel.

Can you shed any light on any technical reason why the oppo counting down the 5 seconds would be stopped by the ref?

Probably comes under the same context as shouting at the referee.

First point is that under Law 6.5.a "The referee is the sole judge of fact and of law during a match" and Law 9.27 "A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship" Those two laws are a sort of "catch all" to cover anything not specifically written into law (such as counting down 5 seconds at the ruck) If it's the referees judgement that it's against the spirit of god sportsmanship, those laws mean that you can't do it.

[DGP Wasp]

Can't they just play Manfred Mann over the PA?

[NellyWellyWaspy]

Can't they just play Manfred Mann over the PA?

The club would get in trouble.

[coddy]

Can't they just play Manfred Mann over the PA?

The club would get in trouble.

Pretty sure he was just jesting Nelly

[NellyWellyWaspy]

Can't they just play Manfred Mann over the PA?

The club would get in trouble.

Pretty sure he was just jesting Nelly

I didn't mean from the RFU, I meant form the fans. Poor taste and all that. 

[Skippy]

How about the pips from Squid Game? Perhaps without the shooting of the offending 9 at the end of it.

If that's a bit to edgy, then maybe the pips from Radio 4.

[Bloke in North Dorset]

I have seen refs warn the 9, threaten to give a free kick, but bottle it and not do so despite persistent infringements >

It’s a penalty offence? No wonder refs are reluctant to blow. Make it a free kick and I’ll bet they’ll blow more often.

Is it? I thought it was just a free kick offence?

Well that was a senior moment, I’ve n idea where I got the idea it was a penalty from readin your post.

[13thWarrior]

I'd love to hear the crowd shouting at the oppo 9 "5-4-3-2-1" as long as they aren't too fast