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Alfie
« on: October 05, 2022, 09:15:30 PM »
Apparently out for the season after surgery, according to Lee Blackett in the CT.

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2022, 09:22:39 PM »
I read that as this calendar year rather than season? May be wrong.

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2022, 09:25:47 PM »
16 week recovery time.

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2022, 09:38:49 PM »
16 weeks doesn't equate to the year or season end. I am puzzled.

Lee said 16 weeks if he had the op, he had the op.

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2022, 09:56:11 PM »
16 weeks doesn't equate to the year or season end. I am puzzled.

Lee said 16 weeks if he had the op, he had the op.

Calendar year?

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2022, 10:25:04 PM »
16 weeks doesn't equate to the year or season end. I am puzzled.

Lee said 16 weeks if he had the op, he had the op.

I think what was meant is he certainly won't be playing again in 2022

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2022, 10:36:24 PM »
16 weeks doesn't equate to the year or season end. I am puzzled.

Lee said 16 weeks if he had the op, he had the op.

I think what was meant is he certainly won't be playing again in 2022

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2022, 06:30:28 AM »
I'm curious to know what can be done to a muscle through surgery, I thought they were a time thing?  At least that's what I've always been told.

Can one of our medics shed any light, please?

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2022, 07:58:14 AM »
I'm curious to know what can be done to a muscle through surgery, I thought they were a time thing?  At least that's what I've always been told.

Can one of our medics shed any light, please?

Depends on the severity of the injury, and the location. Most are simple strains which you treat conservatively with rest and physio. The worst ones are complete tears that need fixing especially if they tear at one end of the muscle or the other where it attaches to bone.

With athletes there is often a middle ground where fixing it surgically gives a slightly stronger result which wouldn't matter for most of us, but does for someone in professional sport.
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Re: Alfie
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2022, 03:12:35 PM »
I'm curious to know what can be done to a muscle through surgery, I thought they were a time thing?  At least that's what I've always been told.

Can one of our medics shed any light, please?

Depends on the severity of the injury, and the location. Most are simple strains which you treat conservatively with rest and physio. The worst ones are complete tears that need fixing especially if they tear at one end of the muscle or the other where it attaches to bone.

With athletes there is often a middle ground where fixing it surgically gives a slightly stronger result which wouldn't matter for most of us, but does for someone in professional sport.
Thanks, but I realised I asked the wrong question.

How do you repair a muscle or tendon? Do they have a special material that can be used to hold good parts together to relieve the strain on the torn and weaker parts? A bit like stitching a wound?

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2022, 03:52:33 PM »
I'm curious to know what can be done to a muscle through surgery, I thought they were a time thing?  At least that's what I've always been told.

Can one of our medics shed any light, please?

Depends on the severity of the injury, and the location. Most are simple strains which you treat conservatively with rest and physio. The worst ones are complete tears that need fixing especially if they tear at one end of the muscle or the other where it attaches to bone.

With athletes there is often a middle ground where fixing it surgically gives a slightly stronger result which wouldn't matter for most of us, but does for someone in professional sport.
Thanks, but I realised I asked the wrong question.

How do you repair a muscle or tendon? Do they have a special material that can be used to hold good parts together to relieve the strain on the torn and weaker parts? A bit like stitching a wound?

Someone like Backdoc is a better person to answer this, but in essence yes. If it's where it attaches to a bone they use an anchor that screws into the bone and has sutures attached. These can be completely absorbable, even the screw in bit. If its in the soft tissue it is simply sewn with absorbable material. The danger point is when you have to start getting it moving again. If you start too soon the sutures can cause a problem, if too late it will never recover to be strong enough.
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Re: Alfie
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2022, 05:48:45 PM »
I'm curious to know what can be done to a muscle through surgery, I thought they were a time thing?  At least that's what I've always been told.

Can one of our medics shed any light, please?

Depends on the severity of the injury, and the location. Most are simple strains which you treat conservatively with rest and physio. The worst ones are complete tears that need fixing especially if they tear at one end of the muscle or the other where it attaches to bone.

With athletes there is often a middle ground where fixing it surgically gives a slightly stronger result which wouldn't matter for most of us, but does for someone in professional sport.
Thanks, but I realised I asked the wrong question.

How do you repair a muscle or tendon? Do they have a special material that can be used to hold good parts together to relieve the strain on the torn and weaker parts? A bit like stitching a wound?

Someone like Backdoc is a better person to answer this, but in essence yes. If it's where it attaches to a bone they use an anchor that screws into the bone and has sutures attached. These can be completely absorbable, even the screw in bit. If its in the soft tissue it is simply sewn with absorbable material. The danger point is when you have to start getting it moving again. If you start too soon the sutures can cause a problem, if too late it will never recover to be strong enough.
Thanks. That all sounds very tricky, no wonder they’re reluctant to do and and go to specialists.

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2022, 08:34:09 PM »
I have never repaired a hamstring rupture/avulsion - so I am not that much better than a geezer reading a book. I think VV has summarised it pretty well.

My specialist area is confined to the lumbar spine. Congratulations to Reece and Olly for their England success in Pakistan.

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Re: Alfie
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2022, 10:33:31 PM »
Congratulations to Reece and Olly for their England success in Pakistan.

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