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JonnyD

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2022, 12:12:30 PM »
BP: I think Curran had taken a head knock. He had treatment and looked a little groggy.

Can’t be sure of the minute but he definitely took a swinging arm to the head as he was tackled.
He was definitely dropping in the tackle so probably only a penalty but was missed by everyone.

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #31 on: October 10, 2022, 03:48:31 PM »
I haven’t seen the game as I’m overseas, but if Claire Hodson was TMO then we’ve never had anything out of her. I remember West getting a swinging arm which wrapped around his neck whilst fully standing up at Leicester a couple of seasons ago, which she completely ignored only to pull up one of ours shortly after for a yellow. I just feel she’s a tick in the RFU’s PC column and in all the games I’ve seen she adds zero value.

Regardless though, I think Wombles nails our problem with TCUP (think clearly under pressure). Another ‘Sir Cliveism’ is the real difference is the best are just 1% better all round. There’s a lot of very good players in the GP, and there is a fine line between them and those with real quality. Unfortunately we’ve lost a lot of the real quality over the last couple of years due to cost, and the reason why MacDonald is very good, rather than top quality, is that he drops restarts at critical times under pressure. These are the pressure points which quality sides win, and we’ve got a habit of losing these little moments now.

In a lots of ways it’s a mindset, and good coaches make a difference here. Look at McCullum and the England test team - one win in 17 games before he came in. Under him the same players and support coaches have beaten all comers and won (I think) 7 out of 8 this Summer. I don’t know how he’s done it, but a lots of players have said he’s taken the pressure off them as individuals and given them self belief. We keep losing the critical moments and this becomes self fulfilling every time.

Anyway, it may be immaterial in a few days time. Let’s hope the RFU and Premiership can find a way to be as lenient with Wasps as they are with their beloved Saracens, who I think got off very lightly and still haven’t been properly punished even though they refused to open their books. I can’t see how they are yet fully compliant, and by letting good clubs and their thousands of fans go to the wall whilst allowing the likes of the cheats to flourish and dominate, they are failing English rugby and driving people away from the game.


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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2022, 04:45:00 PM »
Absolutely right Andy. BTW: who is McCullum?
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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2022, 04:48:36 PM »
Agreed Andy - and let’s not forget a part of the financial ills a lot of clubs now face is because they had to try and match terms that players knew they would get at the Cheats.

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2022, 04:50:04 PM »
Agreed Andy - and let’s not forget a part of the financial ills a lot of clubs now face is because they had to try and match terms that players knew they would get at the Cheats.

Very valid - overextended.
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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2022, 04:51:48 PM »
Absolutely right Andy. BTW: who is McCullum?
England cricket coach, from NZ

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2022, 04:53:35 PM »
Absolutely right Andy. BTW: who is McCullum?
England cricket coach, from NZ

Thanks. I don't follow cricket and didn't actually have a clue :)
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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2022, 04:58:33 PM »
Absolutely right Andy. BTW: who is McCullum?
England cricket coach, from NZ

Thanks. I don't follow cricket and didn't actually have a clue :)

What is cricket?
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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2022, 05:19:15 PM »
Absolutely right Andy. BTW: who is McCullum?
England cricket coach, from NZ

Thanks. I don't follow cricket and didn't actually have a clue :)

What is cricket?
A sport where the established clubs are being replaced by ECB bullshit in the form of the hundred. Who needs bonds to ruin your club?

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2022, 06:25:54 PM »
Agreed Andy - and let’s not forget a part of the financial ills a lot of clubs now face is because they had to try and match terms that players knew they would get at the Cheats.
+1  Not only the cost of players but the loss of income as the cheats were winning using that "advantage "

I keep on getting told to get over it elsewhere.....

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2022, 06:59:24 PM »
Indeed.


Seems that our sport is not alone, similar things occurring in formula 1 - although that's just 1 year, rather than probably nearer 10 years of it

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #41 on: October 10, 2022, 07:36:44 PM »
Sarries have been at it over 20 years. People were getting over half a million pounds to sign on to Sarries - certainly from 2005 onwards, and if you consider before that they had Sella, Horan, Lynagh, Piennar etc. I assume there was a loyalty clause in the contract.

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2022, 08:31:42 PM »
I'll never get over Sarries.  Ever.  Sadly, it won't worry them.

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #43 on: October 10, 2022, 09:14:55 PM »
My ignorance what is TCUP?

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Re: Wasps v Northampton Saints: Post match thoughts.
« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2022, 09:19:01 PM »
My ignorance what is TCUP?


It's a Clive Woodward'ism


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