Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Neils on October 17, 2021, 02:23:24 PM
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I am I the only one who feels uneasy with the current castigation of the Broadstreet facilities that Wasps had to "endure"?
Broadstreet, as I understand it, are an amateur rugby club who took Wasps in to give the club a temporary home. We stayed over the agreed term by agreement.
Basically the Broadstreet tenure was of our own making ( we needed somewhere to train) and use was obviously by agreement with the hosts.
Yes the facilities may have left a lot to be desired on a professional level but that was not the fault of Broadstreet.
Sad to knock an amateur club.
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Agreed. What would we have done without their help? I do also think the players (possibly not those here currently) were a bit precious about it all.
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You are not. I have been a visitor to many local grounds, and I have to say theirs is very good. Wasps were in a hard place, and Broadstreet bent over backwards to help them. I am sure Broadstreet got a lot out of the relationship too, but they do not deserve this. But, who would you blame? The players/club for saying it, or the press? Both, I would suggest. It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. Some things just should never have been printed, or said.
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Totally agree with Neils. Shugs and NWW. We would have been in dead schtook without their help.
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Broadstreet have arguably the best rugby facilities in Coventry and Warwickshire and are a club that have played in the national leagues in fairly recent years.
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It’s an interesting point, the club have not said anything bad about Broadstreet, the only ones who have are a bitter ex-player who moved from worse and a new player who, quite rightly, saw it as a big reduction in quality compared to where he was.
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Elliot Stooke was used to palatial training facilities at Farleigh House. Daly and Gaskell had experienced training with England at Pennyhill Park - a luxury hotel and training facility.
Broadstreet doesn’t compare I’m afraid.
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Whether players like it or not, what they say reflects on their club. But, journalists are not averse to putting leading questions to players, to get a headline. In Stooke's case, I suspect he was prompted by just such a question. I wonder if the club have the players on a tight leash, with a PR minder in tow? If they don't, they should. A simple, you don't talk to the Press without this person present (except, where they are required to do press conferences, such as TV after a match).
This is why I put the ball in the media court. They pose the questions, they write and edit the content. I think if anyone had said to Stooke, 'When you say this positive thing about the training facility, the press will re-write that to a negative thing about Broadstreet,' he might have thought a little more carefully about his words. If he hadn't already, he may now come to a negative view of who the press/media are, and that none of them, not even BB, are their friends, that any of them would sell him down the river for a fiver ...
Frankly, I am amazed anyone talks to the Press or Media. I mean, why did they HAVE to print that?
The problem for Wasps is that they have ex-players who also have a media presence, whose words are taken as being of the club, but 'unofficially'.
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Elliot Stooke was used to palatial training facilities at Farleigh House. Daly and Gaskell had experienced training with England at Pennyhill Park - a luxury hotel and training facility.
Broadstreet doesn’t compare I’m afraid.
All true, but no need to say it.
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Should we read 'Haskell' for 'Gaskell'? (I'm probably wrong)
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Should we read 'Haskell' for 'Gaskell'? (I'm probably wrong)
Haskell.
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thank you Steve. I didn't think Jamma would make comments like that and go public. He is a very gentle soul.
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I wonder if the club have the players on a tight leash, with a PR minder in tow? If they don't, they should. A simple, you don't talk to the Press without this person present (except, where they are required to do press conferences, such as TV after a match).
God no, I can't agree with this. Media trained sportsmen and women giving out the same boring, contrived answers in interviews is tiresome in the extreme.
Much better to hear and see them be themselves and if they make the odd faux pas so be it.
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I think this is one of those scenarios were all statements can be true without invalidating the others:
- Broadstreet did welcome Wasps and help them find a temporary base
- They can be proud of their facilities as an Amateur Club
- However, the facilities aren’t up to the standard a Premiership squad would expect to train in
- Training there 5 days a week vs a Tues/Thurs PM is quite different and could quickly get tiresome/frustrating
- Wasps players were promised new facilities that have taken time to get planning and be built
- It has been difficult to attract players from other Clubs because of this and the new facilities will be a good draw/differentiator for new signings and capturing talent into our academy
I don’t think players are being rude, nor Broadstreet should be upset.
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I believe Jacob played a few games for Broadstreet shortly after he signed for Wasps.
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Am I the only one somewhat bemused by the complaints from some players about the facilities at Broadstreet when it wasn't long ago the club was sharing the FC grounds at Acton- hardly the most luxurious training ground! Think about all the success that we had as a club when based there. Some players actually boasted about how the winning mentality was built from the bonding experience as a club training out of a glorified shed!!
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Well, Nigel Med, welcome to 2021 :D
I think it's fair to say that expectations (and promises) on training facilities and needs to sustain high-performance athletes a fair amount in the 7 years since they left Acton and High Wycombe.
So, sure, we won things whilst training at Acton. But I never heard anyone boast about the facilities there. I think it was always the underdog spirit that we were never the richest team, or the team full of stars and we outperformed ourselves that drove us as a team.