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Title: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: mike909 on March 20, 2020, 10:35:04 AM
The Rugby Football Union has announced the end of the season for all league, cup and county rugby in England, except the Gallagher Premiership, PA reports.


Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 20, 2020, 11:47:22 AM
It will be interesting to see what they do with promotion and relegation. Newcastle must be anxious.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: mike909 on March 20, 2020, 11:48:47 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51974684

I suppose the pragmatic view would promote Newcastle.....having 15 from 15 wins......
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rossm on March 20, 2020, 11:56:09 AM
It will be interesting to see what they do with promotion and relegation. Newcastle must be anxious.

They could hardly not promote Newks. After all the EAs are getting relegated regardless.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: DGP Wasp on March 20, 2020, 12:52:22 PM
The Sarries/Newcastle down/up is easy enough.  Sarries was already confirmed and Newcastle as good as.  Can't envisage any complaints from Ealing/Pirates etc.

Problem then is what they do through the pyramid.  Yorkshire are far enough adrift at the bottom of the Championship to make that an easy call, but not so with the top of Nat 1 to replace them.  Just looked at Nat 2, and in the southern section there are 4 teams within about 6 points at the top, whereas Caldy are top of Nat 2 North with 25/25, 29 points clear with only 5 to play, so will already have believed promotion was 100% assured.  I've not looked any further down than that, but I'm sure there are other examples where promotion and relegation will be very contentious.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: AKWasp on March 20, 2020, 01:20:36 PM
Could see them being told to make preseason friendlies ‘playoffs’ to work our who should go up and down
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: mike909 on March 20, 2020, 03:39:30 PM
The Sarries/Newcastle down/up is easy enough.  Sarries was already confirmed and Newcastle as good as.  Can't envisage any complaints from Ealing/Pirates etc.

Problem then is what they do through the pyramid.  Yorkshire are far enough adrift at the bottom of the Championship to make that an easy call, but not so with the top of Nat 1 to replace them.  Just looked at Nat 2, and in the southern section there are 4 teams within about 6 points at the top, whereas Caldy are top of Nat 2 North with 25/25, 29 points clear with only 5 to play, so will already have believed promotion was 100% assured.  I've not looked any further down than that, but I'm sure there are other examples where promotion and relegation will be very contentious.

Agree re Newcastle and EA's

Probably time for the RFU to take soundings and take their time now - as it was always likely the games would be cancelled. Best to have clubs' agreement?
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: MarleyWasp on March 20, 2020, 05:57:19 PM
Decision on promotion/relegation on April apparently
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on March 23, 2020, 08:53:36 PM
Well I guess that's that then.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 23, 2020, 09:11:25 PM
At least I can officially walk the dog.

Felt this was coming so raided B&Q today plus got a hair cut. Now got to find things to paint!!
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Heathen on March 23, 2020, 09:31:15 PM
At least I can officially walk the dog.

Felt this was coming so raided B&Q today plus got a hair cut. Now got to find things to paint!!

Will have to do one two hour walk with our dog, rather that the morning and afternoon ones. Bought a Davenport at auction last week for restoration. No excuse for not doing an A1 job! Cannot send my wife out on one of them as she is high risk on two counts.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: welsh wasp on March 23, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
Am I allowed to ask what a Davenport is? I thought it was a piece of furniture.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rossm on March 24, 2020, 12:37:57 AM
Am I allowed to ask what a Davenport is? I thought it was a piece of furniture.

It is a small compact writing desk with drawers at the side rather than at the front
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: coddy on March 24, 2020, 06:35:31 AM
And there was me thinking it was a classic motor car!  :-[
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rifleman Harris on March 24, 2020, 10:03:25 AM
And there was me thinking it was a classic motor car!  :-[
Me too, or a motorbike!
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rossm on March 24, 2020, 10:06:57 AM
It could also of course be a large American sofa! But I think it is probably the desk.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Heathen on March 24, 2020, 10:43:47 AM
Indeed, it is the desk.

Spooky this morning though. Out walking the dog and my phone pings.

Text from GOV.UK CORONAVIRUS ALERT

New rules in force now : you must stay at home. More info and exemptions at gov.uk/coronavirus  Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.

It poses a couple of questions : how do they have my mobile number? Are they using GPS tracking? Big Brother scenario!!

Anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Tervueren on March 24, 2020, 10:51:01 AM
I think the mobile providers do the messaging, maybe the same service for if the balloon goes up and we have to run for cover.

 But, there could be a drone tailing you, any buzzing noises?
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Heathen on March 24, 2020, 10:57:45 AM
It will interesting when I go out later and take the wife's phone!
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: RobAWasp on March 24, 2020, 11:01:59 AM
Indeed, it is the desk.

Spooky this morning though. Out walking the dog and my phone pings.

Text from GOV.UK CORONAVIRUS ALERT

New rules in force now : you must stay at home. More info and exemptions at gov.uk/coronavirus  Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.

It poses a couple of questions : how do they have my mobile number? Are they using GPS tracking? Big Brother scenario!!

Anyone else experienced this?

Government trying out the system by the looks of it...doesn't look targeted but would they tell us if it was  :)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52017451
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Tervueren on March 24, 2020, 11:27:21 AM
Don't us a step counter or FitBit type app, it could be used in evidence against you...
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rossm on March 24, 2020, 11:29:57 AM
Poxy text woke me up at 7.00am this morning.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 24, 2020, 11:59:26 AM
Also if you have a passport, driving licence or involved with tax (should be all of us really) you are on their system. No real surprise we are getting this.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rifleman Harris on March 24, 2020, 12:04:00 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 24, 2020, 12:19:28 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!

Of course if you have any social media we have all the information we need about you.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Heathen on March 24, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!

Of course if you have any social media we have all the information we need about you.

All my social meeja stuff is registered through my French email address.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rossm on March 24, 2020, 12:46:37 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!

Of course if you have any social media we have all the information we need about you.

All my social meeja stuff is registered through my French email address.

Perhaps you should change your handle to le fantôme ;D
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Rifleman Harris on March 24, 2020, 01:00:45 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!

Of course if you have any social media we have all the information we need about you.

I generally don't..that explains it.  I hope Johnson never needs me in a hurry!
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on March 24, 2020, 01:02:39 PM
They are being sent by the mobile providers on behalf of the government.  I got mine about 15 minutes ago.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: MarleyWasp on March 24, 2020, 06:39:09 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!

Of course if you have any social media we have all the information we need about you.

As someone who's day job involves investigations, social media is a gem of a tool. The amount of cases I've gathered evidence for because people don't get the concept of privacy settings is astonishing.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 24, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
I don't have one.  Maybe I don't exist!

Of course if you have any social media we have all the information we need about you.

As someone who's day job involves investigations, social media is a gem of a tool. The amount of cases I've gathered evidence for because people don't get the concept of privacy settings is astonishing.

Yep totally. I don't tweet, Facebook or anything. People think privacy settings stop intelligence gathering- quite silly really.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: MarleyWasp on March 24, 2020, 10:20:23 PM
Facebook has really good privacy settings. If you use them, nobody will see anything you don't want them to see.

The problem/benefit, depending on which side you're on, is many people stupid enough to post incriminating pictures/statuses etc don't use them at all.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: RogerE on March 25, 2020, 08:52:43 AM
The big problem with Privacy settings is that they changed and were made tighter, however there are plenty of sites where archives of pre-privacy versions of Facebook/Twitter/Instagram exist.

Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: DGP Wasp on March 27, 2020, 12:47:17 PM
I see the FA have scrapped everything below the 2nd tier of non-league football with all results voided as if the season never happened.  This despite a few cubs apparently already having secured promotion.  Not a particularly satisfactory solution, but ultimately perhaps the most sensible, however much certain clubs will feel cheated of what they had achieved.  Wonder if the RFU will end up going down a similar route.  Still leaves the question of promotion and relegation between the Championship and Premiership unresolved as it would be ridiculous to allow Sarries to stay up for another season with the deduction still hanging over them, and in that case there will still need to be a replacement.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 29, 2020, 07:12:57 PM
If government persons are now saying that we could be in lockdown for 6 months (which is probably a minimum) then wrapping up this season should come soon. Six months takes us towards the end of September which could mean another late start to next season (if at all). Possibly a shortened pre-season.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: DGP Wasp on March 29, 2020, 08:45:54 PM
If government persons are now saying that we could be in lockdown for 6 months (which is probably a minimum) then wrapping up this season should come soon. Six months takes us towards the end of September which could mean another late start to next season (if at all). Possibly a shortened pre-season.

Read the full details behind the headline of this evening's government briefing and in fact what was said was that it could be as long as 6 months before we return to normal life. Restrictions will be reviewed every 3 weeks and any return to something approaching reality will be gradual. Specifically said that it does not mean 6 months of lock down.

What they will be at great pains to make clear is that when restrictions begin to be lifted that we must all resist the inevitable temptation to throw whopping great parties left, right and centre.

Anybody's guess where professional sport might fit into that. Rugby more so than many other sports will need a significant training and conditioning period before they can throw themselves back into full competitive action, whether or not that is played in front of spectators.
Title: Re: OT Season ended - except Gallagher
Post by: Neils on March 29, 2020, 09:05:17 PM
I seriously suspect the "lockdown" will be far closer to six months than three weeks. Also think the constraints will get tougher more in line with Europe as our fatality numbers rise. Far too many people just sauntering around.