Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Steve from Cov on February 26, 2020, 05:27:10 PM
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..has left Worcester Warriors. Is he joining Wasps?
I don’t know too much about him but I believe he’s highly rated.
Does anyone know anything?
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There was some discussion on here about him, a few weeks ago. Mostly positive from what I can remember.
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Based on Baths shopping spree wouldn't be surprised if he goes there
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Quality, quality 12, best 12 not to represent England IMO. Covers 10 too.
Mooted to be asking for 300k which has put some suitors off. Sale look to be getting Loz, and with Redpath moving to Bath and Matevasi looking like he might get a perm deal..plus their other deals in the pipeline, I'm not sure he'll end up there, so i'll watch this one with interest.
Big yes from me if he saw Wasps as his home
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https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/18263388.ryan-mills-allowed-leave-worcester-warriors-mutual-agreement/
According to that he's been given permission to speak to other clubs about a move next season. Nothing to suggest he has left or will leave and join another club mid-season. That said, if the option is there to have him join earlier then, especially with Booj and Juan out, we should do for it if possible.
Bath seem well stocked in the centre with Josh Matavesi and Cameron Redpath joining.
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He is a QUALITY 12. I have watched quite a few games with him playing and always worried at his potential against us.
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Yes please.
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Does anyone want to come and play for us? I feel a bit unloved. :-\
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Seems to be a lot of movement out there, but none for us. Suppose you need a DOR and or a head coach first!
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Really? I have seen vary little movement given its nearly March..other than Redpath and Webb as a temporary.
Rumors are just that.
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Isn't he Dobby's best man?
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Yeah not a lot of movement except for Sarries, Bristol, Exeter and Bath.
I'll add I'd not heard of Ryan Mills prior to you guys mentioning him, what's he like as a player?
Would he be a replacement for someone or just an additional signing?
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Quality 12 and can provide 10 cover, also wouldn't have to relocate. He would provide necessary depth at 12, and with Searle going the other way would give us another option at Fly Half. I would welcome his signing.
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I guess that depends on whether Lima is staying, and whether Jimmy can keep playing for another season.
If I had to guess I'd say Lima may be off, and Jimmy will carry on playing, but perhaps start making the move into coaching. Which would leave a gap for an experienced 12 who can cover 10 to give Jacob what he needs to kick on.
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Mills would be a quality signing. Can't see how it makes us over congested. 10 you'd have Umaga and Sopoaga with Mills (and Miller) covering. 12 Mills, MLB, Spink and hopefully JG.
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Would you still need Sops?
10 - Umaga, Gops, Mills, Miller....
Gops will definitely be playing next season, he's in top, top shape and had a year off injured.
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Rumour I think was from Ruck or RIL saying Mills was still in contract next year but Worcester were going to allow him to leave a year early as he wanted a move to have a final crack at England.
Absolutely classy player but did have a knee made of glass held together by a lot of tape, not sure what his injury record has been over the last few years but seems to have played more to my mind in recent years.
Would be another experienced outside Umaga too despite being 27.
Apparently Dobbie’s best bud too
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Is he only 27? Hell yes please then. I'm a big fan, he makes Worcs into a different team when he's on the pitch, very intelligent player but solid too. He seemed to be forever out injured until relatively recently. If it was a choice between Lima and him it'd be no comtest.
Dai had been in for him a couple of times at least but he's gone now. Hope we still view him as a good addition.
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Have to admit he's not a player I've watched closely but his name has cropped a few times when others have talked about recruitment options at 12.
His age is attractive, but after a brief read online his injury problems are a concern. For me Booj hasn't quite staked his claim to hold on to the 12 shirt fulltime. So based on others assessments and enthusiasm to sign him, i'll be happy to secure his services..... The only thing is that I don't we'll sign someone until a DOR is confirmed and they have confirmed they are happy with the current recruitment targets/negotiations.
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Does anyone think that Booj was actually signed to become a first choice inside centre?
He's a signing that I felt was to add depth. A probable 3rd choice, selection from the championship.
He was already in his mid/late 20's when he joined us, so I doubt we were expecting him to grow as a player much more than he already had.
There's exceptions to that, such as Guy Thompson. However, on the while it's very rare for a player to make a significant step up in ability when they're in their mid 20's.
I think we signed him for squad depth, but that he's had to perform a more significant role.
I think he's actually quite solid for someone that you'd typically expect to only have to call on occasionally
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Does anyone think that Booj was actually signed to become a first choice inside centre?
He's a signing that I felt was to add depth. A probable 3rd choice, selection from the championship.
He was already in his mid/late 20's when he joined us, so I doubt we were expecting him to grow as a player much more than he already had.
There's exceptions to that, such as Guy Thompson. However, on the while it's very rare for a player to make a significant step up in ability when they're in their mid 20's.
I think we signed him for squad depth, but that he's had to perform a more significant role.
I think he's actually quite solid for someone that you'd typically expect to only have to call on occasionally
+1
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I think we signed him for squad depth, but that he's had to perform a more significant role.
I think he's actually quite solid for someone that you'd typically expect to only have to call on occasionally
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+2, I think he's done a great job considering that he was dropped right into it with Jimmy getting injured and having to adjust to a new team and the Prem and playing week in week out with little chance/time to adapt
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Agree with the +2
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Here:
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/rugby-rumours-transfer-news-worcester-3892974
They report he has been released from Worcester and is (pretty much) headed our way.
In other news they report Loz off to Sale.
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That would be nice
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Does anyone think that Booj was actually signed to become a first choice inside centre?
He's a signing that I felt was to add depth. A probable 3rd choice, selection from the championship.
He was already in his mid/late 20's when he joined us, so I doubt we were expecting him to grow as a player much more than he already had.
There's exceptions to that, such as Guy Thompson. However, on the while it's very rare for a player to make a significant step up in ability when they're in their mid 20's.
I think we signed him for squad depth, but that he's had to perform a more significant role.
I think he's actually quite solid for someone that you'd typically expect to only have to call on occasionally
I think Mark Atkinson might have something to say about that. A short, unsuccessful stint for us (as a 10) then went to Esher/Bedford (definitely one of the two, perhaps both - Might be getting confused with Seb Jewell who had a similar stint) then ended up at Gloucester in his mid-20's a few years back. Now he's a pretty integral part of their backline and acts as the perfect foil for Cips. Booj has many of the same attributes that could be improved with a few seasons under his belt. Even at 29 (in a few years after having a few seasons under his belt) he'll have 2-3 good seasons in him for us, so could well turn out to be a decent 12 for us (even if he remains 2nd or 3rd choice).
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For those who've not seen him.. my best description would be a Barritt in his prime (an in your face hard carrying 12) but with much better feet and hands. I think injuries (and being at Wuss) have scuppered him from furthering his career.
The selling point for him (if true) is that he probably won't have to move house if he's in the Wuss area as the proposed Henley-in-Arden training centre won't be that far for him to travel to.
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Does anyone think that Booj was actually signed to become a first choice inside centre?
He's a signing that I felt was to add depth. A probable 3rd choice, selection from the championship.
He was already in his mid/late 20's when he joined us, so I doubt we were expecting him to grow as a player much more than he already had.
There's exceptions to that, such as Guy Thompson. However, on the while it's very rare for a player to make a significant step up in ability when they're in their mid 20's.
I think we signed him for squad depth, but that he's had to perform a more significant role.
I think he's actually quite solid for someone that you'd typically expect to only have to call on occasionally
The thing for me is i'd like all squad players to push for that start and ask questions of selectors. Yes he hasn't let us down and he was well and truly dropped in it when he arrived with the injury to Gopps. I'm also not naïve enough to think we can have a squad full of stars, but do need those squad players. My point is that I don't feel Booj asks enough questions come selection time... What a Mills would presumably bring is the competition to make it not a full gone conclusion that Gopps is starting when fit.
Competition breeds better performances and as much as I think Booj is a good 'squad player' I think we need a 12 that could genuinely challenge Gopps and keep him at his very best (even though he seems to be anyway!).
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Does anyone think that Booj was actually signed to become a first choice inside centre?
He's a signing that I felt was to add depth. A probable 3rd choice, selection from the championship.
He was already in his mid/late 20's when he joined us, so I doubt we were expecting him to grow as a player much more than he already had.
There's exceptions to that, such as Guy Thompson. However, on the while it's very rare for a player to make a significant step up in ability when they're in their mid 20's.
I think we signed him for squad depth, but that he's had to perform a more significant role.
I think he's actually quite solid for someone that you'd typically expect to only have to call on occasionally
The thing for me is i'd like all squad players to push for that start and ask questions of selectors. Yes he hasn't let us down and he was well and truly dropped in it when he arrived with the injury to Gopps. I'm also not naïve enough to think we can have a squad full of stars, but do need those squad players. My point is that I don't feel Booj asks enough questions come selection time... What a Mills would presumably bring is the competition to make it not a full gone conclusion that Gopps is starting when fit.
Competition breeds better performances and as much as I think Booj is a good 'squad player' I think we need a 12 that could genuinely challenge Gopps and keep him at his very best (even though he seems to be anyway!).
+1, that is my issue with MLB he hasn't significantly improved and doesn't offer enough of a challenge for the 12 shirt. Mills will give us that plus cover at 10. The issue is with no DoR in place who is painting the vision from a playing PoV?
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Worcester have today confirmed officially that Mills is free to break his contract and leave.
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Not sure what the story is regarding his falling out with Worcester. He was stripped of the captaincy back in November and looks to have fallen down the pecking order since then, certainly not getting the kind of game time he was before. Not sure if he started making noises about wanting away and that triggered the rest of it or if there was a falling out prior to this that led to a breakdown in relations and ultimately to him being granted permission to leave.
Either way, their loss could end up being Wasps' gain, and he'd be a very welcome addition.
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He's starting tomorrow, mind