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Title: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: RogerE on July 15, 2019, 09:28:49 AM: Did anyone else notice who was there...

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Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on July 15, 2019, 10:14:17 AM: I have have had to be watching to see? What's cricket?

I watch F1 and rugby on TV. No other sports exist. Summer can be somewhat tiresome. If it wasn't for my motorbike (and no, I don't watch much of that on TV either). Sadly, Baby (my current bike) is off to the dealer this week to be replaced by something a little faster and sexier. 125% more power, 25% more torque, nearly 20mph faster top speed, 0-60 down from 3.9 secs to 2.6 seconds.

Time to truly play.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Neils on July 15, 2019, 10:21:33 AM: Lima was there. More interested in the Wasps ladies doing well in Netball Worlds and not so well with the Ladies rugby last night.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Rossm on July 15, 2019, 10:29:07 AM: I'm a bit like Nelly. But I only watch rugby. Used to enjoy 5 day tests but don't think much of the shorter stuff. Definitely not a petrol head. I regard cars as simply devices to get you from point A to point B in comparative comfort without breaking down. However, congratulations to England for their win.

And no, I haven't a clue who was there.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Brandnewtorugby on July 15, 2019, 11:08:40 AM: I was following the score, but not very closely and still did some jobs, went for a ride out and the dog walk during the action. I did watch the last hour or two, got me hooked.Spoiler
It was a pleasant change for a team that I support to win a tight game!
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That was a nice Honda Nelly, if a little noisy!! New bike is a great looking beast, but I am concerned that you've gone all racer on us!
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: andermt on July 15, 2019, 12:18:55 PM: For anyone who doesn't know the guy in Rogers picture it is Pete Nuttall, the stadium announcer at Wasps.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Wiltshire Wasp on July 15, 2019, 12:21:54 PM: Thank you, I didn’t.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Daeg on July 15, 2019, 12:25:05 PM: The cricket was excellent, as was the tennis, as was F1. It was a nightmare trying to watch all three at once... I was exhausted by the end of the day!!!
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on July 15, 2019, 03:52:16 PM: Quote from: andermt on July 15, 2019, 12:18:55 PM
For anyone who doesn't know the guy in Rogers picture it is Pete Nuttall, the stadium announcer at Wasps.
Oh yes. He normally wears those natty light brown cord trousers, yes?
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on July 15, 2019, 03:54:07 PM: Quote from: Brandnewtorugby on July 15, 2019, 11:08:40 AM
I was following the score, but not very closely and still did some jobs, went for a ride out and the dog walk during the action. I did watch the last hour or two, got me hooked.Spoiler
It was a pleasant change for a team that I support to win a tight game!
.

That was a nice Honda Nelly, if a little noisy!! New bike is a great looking beast, but I am concerned that you've gone all racer on us!

Noisy? Well, maybe. But this new beast has a factory fitted Akrapovic can. Not quiet by any means. Racer? I can't imagine me in leathers (do they make cows that big?) - lol.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: westwaleswasp on July 15, 2019, 05:39:24 PM: Cricket for me is a first love, one you never get over. Fifty overs is, of course, just a one night stand, albiet yesterday was a hell of a bang, a one night stand with Natalie Portman on a unicorn.
Soccer and rugby form the holy trinity.

Wimbledon I can't stand, would not go if you paid me, just used to interfere with test matches when the beeb had it. Formula one is best followed in the newspapers, the movement, sponsorship and the like became more entertaining than the races somewhere after Schumacher left Benetton.....
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: DuncanS on July 16, 2019, 06:52:03 AM: Not a cricket fan, but this was hugely entertaining stuff. A sort of “Do you remember where you were when...” sporting moment, up there with England’s 2003 RWC win, Redgrave winning his fifth gold, and Barry McGuigan beating Pedroza.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: BG on July 16, 2019, 08:54:59 AM: Quote from: DuncanS on July 16, 2019, 06:52:03 AM
Not a cricket fan, but this was hugely entertaining stuff. A sort of “Do you remember where you were when...” sporting moment, up there with England’s 2003 RWC win, Redgrave winning his fifth gold, and Barry McGuigan beating Pedroza.

The question is - Would we even be chatting about the cricket if C4 hadn't done a one off deal with Sky Sports.

The same applied to the Brtish F1 GP. C4 being allowed to show that was a one off (I think its defined as one of the sporting "crown jewels" that has to be shown free -to-air in the UK).

Either way, the sponsors and advertisers must have been delighted as the live tv audience probably increased 10 fold for both events. Apparently Sky took a slice of the C4's advertsing revenue for the deal to go ahead.

Obviously Sky and BT pay a lot of money for exclusive access for their chosen sports, which is then paid for by viewers who choose to subscribe. There is an argument though that televising it behind paywalls stunts the long term development/health of the game though. I only recognised 3 or so players from the Eng cricket team.

I think PRL have recognised this problem by working with BT and C5 who are given the odd free game to televise.

I'm just hoping that CVC don't drive up the price of the TV contract deal so much that a lot of supporters can't afford to watch club rugby on TV anymore (perhaps game attendances would then increase??).

There is also the prospect of CVC buying into the 6 nations, which will inevitably lead to those games disappearing from free to air as well.

Its a tricky balancing act for sporting organisations who want to maxmise revenue but will also have one eye on interest in the game and its development
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: RogerE on July 16, 2019, 09:54:12 AM: Crown Jewel Sporting Events:

Category A - must be shown live on terrestrial

Olympic games

Football world cup

Football European Championship

FA Cup final

Scottish FA Cup final (in Scotland)

Grand National

The Derby

Wimbledon finals

Rugby League Challenge Cup final

Rugby Union World Cup final

Category B - highlights must be show on terrestrial TV

Cricket Tests in England

Wimbledon up to finals

All other Rugby Union World Cup matches

Six Nations Rugby matches involving home countries

Commonwealth Games

World Athletics Championships

Cricket World Cup final, semi-finals and matches involving home countries

Ryder Cup golf

The Open golf

So basically we are lucky, at present, that 6 nation matches are shown, in full, on FTA - we could only have highlights.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Tervueren on July 16, 2019, 01:28:42 PM: The BBC moved the Wimbledon Women's double final to web-only part way through the second set, does this mean that the internet counts as free-to-air?
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: King Prawn Phuna on July 16, 2019, 02:06:03 PM: Curiously, the football European Cup final was only on BT...that seems to have dropped off the list.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:07:31 PM: I think the Champions League Final was also broadcast via YouTube.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: King Prawn Phuna on July 16, 2019, 03:12:35 PM: Quote from: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:07:31 PM
I think the Champions League Final was also broadcast via YouTube.

Really?...that was kept quiet!
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:16:56 PM: Quote from: King Prawn Phuna on July 16, 2019, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:07:31 PM
I think the Champions League Final was also broadcast via YouTube.

Really?...that was kept quiet!

Yes, that's how I watched it https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161 (https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161)
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Gaz on July 16, 2019, 03:32:38 PM: Quote from: BG on July 16, 2019, 08:54:59 AM

I'm just hoping that CVC don't drive up the price of the TV contract deal so much that a lot of supporters can't afford to watch club rugby on TV anymore (perhaps game attendances would then increase??).

Sorry if I am quoting you out of context but I thought I'd mention that I have decided to draw the line after the recent BT Sport price increase - not linked to Rugby or CVC of course but as a former season ticket holder and self-confessed but recovering rugby addict I won't get live prem rugby anymore. I could afford it but I just felt I had to draw the line somewhere, so even those who can afford it have some level of price sensitivity so if CVC do drive the prices up behind a paywall I can't see rugby benefiting.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: westwaleswasp on July 16, 2019, 03:33:33 PM: The list is really anachronistic to me. The principle is fine, but the actual events on it are not really all "crown jewels". It is subjective, but RL events being on there? The numbers don't justify it. I think we would all be miffed if Sky snagged the 6n, we got highlights only, whilst the RL C cup final enjoyed list A status....
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: BG on July 16, 2019, 04:53:42 PM: Quote from: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: King Prawn Phuna on July 16, 2019, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:07:31 PM
I think the Champions League Final was also broadcast via YouTube.

Really?...that was kept quiet!

Yes, that's how I watched it https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161 (https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161)

Did you have to use a BT Sport login to access to their Youtube channel. I can't see tham giving free access to it on Youtube?

I can't see why the European Football Champions Cup would be a Cat A Crown Jewel though. Surely a Cat A needs to be a UK event, a long history,.. or.. something of national interest for a large portion of the population.. i.e at national team level.. World Cups etc.

I can't see why RL Challenge Cup Final would qualify either.. where as a home based cricket test match versus Oz or 6N game doesn't?.

Sky did have the rights to home Eng 6 N games at one point. Maybe that is purely what CVC are after?

Surely BBC will give up the half rights they currently have and it will either end up with ITV or with SKY who will most likely team up with C4 again for a highlights package
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 05:04:39 PM: Quote from: BG on July 16, 2019, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: King Prawn Phuna on July 16, 2019, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: jamestaylor002 on July 16, 2019, 03:07:31 PM
I think the Champions League Final was also broadcast via YouTube.

Really?...that was kept quiet!

Yes, that's how I watched it https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161 (https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161)

Did you have to use a BT Sport login to access to their Youtube channel. I can't see tham giving free access to it on Youtube?

I can't see why the European Football Champions Cup would be a Cat A Crown Jewel though. Surely a Cat A needs to be a UK event, a long history,.. or.. something of national interest for a large portion of the population.. i.e at national team level.. World Cups etc.

I can't see why RL Challenge Cup Final would qualify either.. where as a home based cricket test match versus Oz or 6N game doesn't?.

Sky did have the rights to home Eng 6 N games at one point. Maybe that is purely what CVC are after?

Surely BBC will give up the half rights they currently have and it will either end up with ITV or with SKY who will most likely team up with C4 again for a highlights package

No BT Sport log in required. You just accessed the stream as you would any other video on YouTube. Sure, it still had all the BT Sport branding on the stream (as you'd expect if you were watching it directly via BT Sport) but it was free to watch.
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: BG on July 16, 2019, 05:16:20 PM: Do they stream rugby games on that channel or was that just a one off?
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: wasps on July 16, 2019, 06:34:48 PM: They have occasional free to air events... Often they're the really high profile ones - cup finals etc.

It's obviously to showcase the service they offer in the hope that some people sign up for the regular season, but it's also good news for occasional fans who just like to see the major events
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: W2APS on July 21, 2019, 09:43:43 AM: Pete gets around a lot doing all sorts of super high profile sporting events. You'll regularly hear him at Wembley (various sports) occasionally Twickenham, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, most RL Super League finals and some normal league matches. He's very much in demand and we are very lucky to have him at Wasps.
For those not in the know he's been our regular stadium announcer (doing everything useful, ie not Kurky allezing away) since we moved to Loftus Road in 1996. When we moved out to Adams Park in High Wycombe he came with us.

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Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: RogerE on July 21, 2019, 10:05:20 AM: Yes Pete is a northerner, whose real love is Rugby League.

He lives in the MK area, where his daughter was a gymnast and he reached the pinnacle of his career announcing at one of our Buckinghamshire gym competitions.

He also was the announcer at Charlton Athletic after he was "spotted" by Alan Curbishley's wife at an Adams Park Wasps match (I am told she was a Wasps ST holder)

Don't get me started on Kurky - I still haven't forgiven him for trying to introduce the Toulon chant at Adams Park!
Title: Re: The Cricket World Cup Final
Post by: Mellie on July 22, 2019, 08:45:18 AM: I played with Pete for the Drunken Wasps at the Fat Blokes 7s many years ago. We executed a new tactical move by doing a conga with the ball at the back of a ruck, from which we scored. Completey bamboozled the opposition. Predates the current trend for the crocodile ruck by at least a decade.