Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: coddy on October 15, 2022, 12:55:53 PM
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I'd like to see for sure that Armstrong's bid to buy the club will only happen if the PRL will then allow Wasps to keep their P shares, if as reported this is the case then I'd like to help persuade the PRL that this is what must be done to save our club.
I'm thinking letters, petitions and if it comes to it peaceful demonstrations. It just needs a bit of clarity and organising from someone who knows how to effectively get thousands of peoples views across to the decision makers.
Thoughts?
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I'd like to see for sure that Armstrong's bid to buy the club will only happen if the PRL will then allow Wasps to keep their P shares, if as reported this is the case then I'd like to help persuade the PRL that this is what must be done to save our club.
I'm thinking letters, petitions and if it comes to it peaceful demonstrations. It just needs a bit of clarity and organising from someone who knows how to effectively get thousands of peoples views across to the decision makers.
Thoughts?
I suspect the decisions are all already made. That we only find out snippets once it's a done deal. Even the "rumours" that make their way out are from conversations that have already happened.
It might sound pessimistic, but I get the feeling Wasps and Wuss are acceptable collateral damage to the powers that be, and the best thing we can do is make sure the self serving, outdated idiots in charge of rugby don't kill the sport as a whole.
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Plus 1 . . . . . no, 5
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I fear VV is right and it’s a done deal. If anything could change it it would be:
1. BT threaten to pull out. And say they aren’t interested in a 10 team league.
2. Fans from other clubs write to their owners en masse demanding that we be allowed to keep P shares and not relegated.
I don’t see either of those happening.
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BT will find cancelled subscriptions over the next 12-18 months. The Telegraph did a survey and found that rugby coverage was very high on its readership's interests- more than soccer, for its audience apprently. These are ABC1 viewers, well off comparitively and often males who watch little else where advertisers can get to them. BT offer 12 -18 months contracts, and 25 per month general access. Mine runs out a while away, sadly, but it will go 100% if Wasps do. Those two things are inextricably linked. I do watch soccer, but there is not enough of what I like to justify the money, even below 20 quid. Wasps apprently have the hghest viewing figures, unsurprisingly really given the nomadic nature of the club, play style of the last decade, and the lack of geographical base.
I really do think the "casuals go to see big names" thing is just not true and won't benefit the clubs. At least, the number of "big names" able to put a few extra on who are actual England internationals is about three at any one time. People do not go to see top name tight heads, regardless of how good they are.
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I do not expect any other club in the league to do anything, it is not the nature of the league. There was no mass move to stop multiple teams disappear from the top table when professionalism began, there was no move to help London Welsh. The silence was deafening when Worcester went and so will us.The clubs focus only on themselves, and unless the league is threatened there will be no mass movement, and only then will it be a movement to protect those left standing.
This is why the RFU needs to step in now for the good of the game. The PRL needs to end for the game to survive.
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It all reminds me of the children's song about the rolling over in bed. It will get lonely at some point.
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If I get to the point of cancelling BT Sport I’ll probably move to Wessex Internet as they have fibre in the village and by all accounts it’s quite good and a lot cheaper than BT broadband.
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To be frank if Wasps go I’m definitely cancelling my BT sport subscription. 90% of that is because Wasps won’t be on. 10% is because the shenanigans/inflexibility/selfishness shown since we’ve been in trouble has left me with a bitter taste around the game in general.
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To be frank if Wasps go I’m definitely cancelling my BT sport subscription. 90% of that is because Wasps won’t be on. 10% is because the shenanigans/inflexibility/selfishness shown since we’ve been in trouble has left me with a bitter taste around the game in general.
As I have said before I will do likewise. Even today I am not watching because we taped all the ladies matches - currently watch USA V Japan. Entertaining. Then will be over to watch Sharks V Glasgow followed by Edinburgh. Wine intake the same so nothing missed (apart from the obvious).
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Well we’re still 9th.
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Well we’re still 9th.
Are we? Didn't see any of that rugby and didn’t look.
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I cancelled my BT Sport subscription yesterday.
So none of us has the urge to fight for our clubs future? Getting angry on a fans forum isn't going to help anyone, showing that anger en masse to the PRL/RFU/BT SPORT and CVC might just make a difference.
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Is there any way of getting a message to Rugby Tonight without having to resort to twatter etc. They must be tackling this subject again and need to know some of the feelings. Also the impact it might have on BT.
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Is there any way of getting a message to Rugby Tonight without having to resort to twatter etc. They must be tackling this subject again and need to know some of the feelings. Also the impact it might have on BT.
Perhaps we need to volunteer as going along as one of their demos as they have no crowds? Still at Lea valley/ Stratford?
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I cancelled my BT Sport subscription yesterday.
So none of us has the urge to fight for our clubs future? Getting
angry on a fans forum isn't going to help anyone, showing that anger en masse to the PRL/RFU/BT SPORT and CVC might just make a difference.
I’ve happily fired off a few e-mails. Suggest others do the same. Even if it’s futile. Have also let BT know the reason I’ll be cancelling.
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My thoughts are something more organised. Not a protest as such, but more a coming together of supporters to take something forward a la Wimbledon’s fans did in the creation of AFC Wimbledon. The complicating factor is that we already have the amateur arm of the club so is this need already filled and what could we do to help them climb the leagues should we go to the wall?
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The issue with the amateur club is that they and the pro club have been split for years. It's just the same name now.
Might as well support Quins, we were the same club as them once too.
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Only one email read out on RT.
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My thoughts are something more organised. Not a protest as such, but more a coming together of supporters to take something forward a la Wimbledon’s fans did in the creation of AFC Wimbledon. The complicating factor is that we already have the amateur arm of the club so is this need already filled and what could we do to help them climb the leagues should we go to the wall?
Why would the fc want to climb the leagues? They're a healthy and competitive amateur club, serving the local community in acton, which is exactly what they want to be.
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Only one email read out on RT.
Quite an emotional one though. Soon glossed over with light hearted banter - it’s not Tigers in trouble after all.
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Only one email read out on RT.
Quite an emotional one though. Soon glossed over with light hearted banter - it’s not Tigers in trouble after all.
Yes agree.
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Whilst I dislike most things about CCFC, they did have one successful campaign against SISU i.e. Not One Penny More. I personally will now be advocating this approach towards professional rugby in England. I will not spend another penny in attending matches, car parking, clubhouse membership, buying TV subscriptions or purchasing merchandise from any National/Premier league rugby organisation until Wasps, Worcester and any other "casualties" are supported to remain within the 13 "P" club members. If several thousand Wasps/ Worcester supporters agree, I believe a serious financial hole could be punctured in the vulnerable backside of the RFU/PRU.