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General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Neils on January 31, 2023, 07:32:45 PM

Title: Jack Discarded
Post by: Neils on January 31, 2023, 07:32:45 PM
Borthwick released Willis and Hill.
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: baldpaul101 on February 01, 2023, 10:23:19 AM
& the form 9 in the prem, Mitchell...
& one of the form wingers, Murley...
& one of the props that gets rave reviews, Rodd....
& one of the few fit centres in Porter...

I guess it might have been too short notice for any radical shake up, but lets see what the weekend brings in terms of actual team & performance
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: coddy on February 01, 2023, 12:45:25 PM
With this and making Owen Farrell captain, Borthwick isn't filling me with confidence right now.
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: Heathen on February 01, 2023, 01:32:48 PM
With this and making Owen Farrell captain, Borthwick isn't filling me with confidence right now.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: WonkyWasp on February 01, 2023, 01:44:29 PM
Here Here
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: baldpaul101 on February 01, 2023, 01:47:41 PM
With one or two exceptions Jones selection wasn't all that bad. It was how he made them play that was the issue for me. I'm reserving judgement till the end of the 6nations.
We should have an idea of whether Borthwicks england will be able to producer any decent rugby
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: Neils on February 01, 2023, 01:48:01 PM
Who cares - going to a pub without tv.
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: baldpaul101 on February 01, 2023, 02:04:29 PM
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Who cares - going to a pub without tv.

Clearly you care enough to tell us all you dont care :)
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: Neils on February 01, 2023, 02:11:53 PM
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Who cares - going to a pub without tv.

Clearly you care enough to tell us all you dont care :)

No I don't!
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on February 01, 2023, 03:17:11 PM
I was hoping this 6N would rekindle my love of rugby, especially after EJ left, but what I'm seeing and hearing about the England set up doesn't fill me with joyful anticipation. I'll be making an effort to watch France and Ireland, I think they offer the best hope of decent rugby, but I will also give England a go. The triumph of hope over experience ....
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: Brandnewtorugby on February 01, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
I just wish I didn't admire France so much. Maybe there is hope, wasn't that long ago that they were a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: WonkyWasp on February 01, 2023, 06:28:25 PM
Un-secret weapon ............  Sean Edwards,
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: Shugs on February 01, 2023, 09:19:03 PM
I think Borthwick was a pretty uninspiring appointment. Having said that he?s not Jones. I?m for giving him a chance and I find myself hoping England win again which is a step forward from Jones.
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: baldpaul101 on February 02, 2023, 10:02:54 AM
The Scots look actually quite decent. England could struggle whoever Borthwick picks.

Scotland team: Hogg; Steyn, Jones, Tuipulotu, Van der Merwe; Russell, White; Schoeman, Turner, Nel; R Gray, Gilchrist; Ritchie (c), Crosbie, M Fagerson.

Replacements: Brown, Bhatti, Berghan, J Gray, Dempsey, Horne, Kinghorn, Harris.

Lets hope Russell has one of his many off days!
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: DGP Wasp on February 02, 2023, 02:43:33 PM
Lets hope Russell has one of his many off days!

Don't recall any of those ever being against England before!
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: baldpaul101 on February 02, 2023, 02:58:37 PM
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Don't recall any of those ever being against England before!

No, sadly!
Title: Re: Jack Discarded
Post by: InBetweenWasp on February 03, 2023, 03:06:29 PM
I think Borthwick was a pretty uninspiring appointment. Having said that he?s not Jones. I?m for giving him a chance and I find myself hoping England win again which is a step forward from Jones.

In many ways I agree he is uninspiring, but it's been interesting to hear about some of the background to his story from player to coach and beginning to get a sneaking suspicion that he's going to have both the trust and the respect of players.  With some good coaches around him, they could be a force again. 

Ideally i'd have liked to see Jack in the matchday squad, but like the look of his pack and the balance it has.  Chessum might be light vs Hill but Ludlam hits hard.  The other change I would have liked to have seen would be Kelly/Lawrence in for at 12, but understand that needs must with injuries.