Always a Wasp

General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Neils on October 21, 2022, 12:56:55 PM

Title: More off
Post by: Neils on October 21, 2022, 12:56:55 PM
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/saracens-exeter-chiefs-line-up-25319490
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Neils on October 21, 2022, 12:57:31 PM
Baxter raiding us
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Post by: Westy68 on October 21, 2022, 01:04:32 PM
Do Exeter have the need for injury cover or doesn't it matter now
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Post by: Rossm on October 21, 2022, 01:12:56 PM
I can't blame them. Baxter however has fallen into the gutter in my estimation.
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Neils on October 21, 2022, 01:16:04 PM
I can't blame them. Baxter however has fallen into the gutter in my estimation.

Down the bloody drain in the gutter.
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Post by: WonkyWasp on October 21, 2022, 01:18:14 PM
He was never above it.
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Post by: Andywasp50 on October 21, 2022, 01:45:41 PM
Salary cap, what Salary cap..??

More P share dosh for Baxter and chums, more players too.
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Post by: Westy68 on October 21, 2022, 02:39:21 PM
That is why he has been asking for a salary cap increase, as he can't wait to get his hands on ours and Worcester's P share
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Post by: Mark.S on October 21, 2022, 02:41:27 PM
And why shouldnt these guys find new jobs ? ..... Agents will have been out there finding them work and quite right too ....... If anyone has listened to Vaughan on the rugby pod will have heard that many of them are not being offered their worth .... but needs must if they have family ..... good luck to them.
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Post by: Shugs on October 21, 2022, 03:16:05 PM
Don’t think you’ll find a single poster who doesn’t wish the players well. The ire is directed at Baxter who needn’t have said anything but did.
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Post by: westwaleswasp on October 21, 2022, 05:29:19 PM
Yeah, I think we all wish them well. But I would happily wish bankruptcy on those 4 clubs trying even now to increase the cap.
We need a reset button.
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Shugs on October 21, 2022, 06:05:37 PM
Agreed. Single wealthy benefactors aren’t forever.
Title: Re: More off
Post by: wasps on October 21, 2022, 06:54:55 PM
Agreed. Single wealthy benefactors aren’t forever.


It feels like all professional sport is built on very wealthy owners willing to invest large sums of money when required
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Post by: HDAWG on October 21, 2022, 07:43:45 PM
Given the amount of players who were unable to get a club at the end of last season, I'm staggered so many of our players were able to find clubs. Hint of sarcasm, but also genuinely surprised.
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Lwasp on October 24, 2022, 11:37:50 AM
It feels like all professional sport is built on very wealthy owners willing to invest spend large sums of money when required

Fixed that for you wasps.
Title: Re: More off
Post by: wasps on October 24, 2022, 01:06:17 PM
It feels like all professional sport is built on very wealthy owners willing to invest spend large sums of money when required

Fixed that for you wasps.


So very very true
Thank you
Title: Re: More off
Post by: WonkyWasp on October 24, 2022, 01:19:48 PM
But surely there is a limit to what even the wealthiest is willing to lose?
Title: Re: More off
Post by: wasps on October 24, 2022, 02:21:02 PM
But surely there is a limit to what even the wealthiest is willing to lose?


Yeah, definitely.
But in a world where a single premiership footballer earns £5m per year, and the very best earn 3x or 4x that figure, plus they have £30m+ transfer fees, then the cost to run an entire rugby club is practically inconsequential.




That being said, someone coming in to own wasps would surely only do it if they had a love for the club already.... And I feel that there aren't any people with that kind of disposable income who love wasps
Title: Re: More off
Post by: mike909 on October 24, 2022, 03:15:35 PM
There are limits. What sticks rather - is being told elsewhere that we only went under due to poor financial management. From fans of clubs where their particular "sponsor" just wrote off any debts....Which is hardly good financial management.

I've stopped trying to correct - it was doing my had in!
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Shugs on October 24, 2022, 03:24:27 PM
It’s a good point Mike. The naivety of the clubs propped up by benefactors is amazing. Firstly they are the least sustainable clubs. Secondly they are part of the reason others become less sustainable and thirdly they don’t recognise that their actions will eventually kill the game. Maybe it’s time for a football style financial fair play where only an agreed multiple of income is allowed on expenditure. If nothing else it will give those who circumvent the cap a new ruse to work on.
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Neils on October 24, 2022, 03:29:12 PM
It’s a good point Mike. The naivety of the clubs propped up by benefactors is amazing. Firstly they are the least sustainable clubs. Secondly they are part of the reason others become less sustainable and thirdly they don’t recognise that their actions will eventually kill the game. Maybe it’s time for a football style financial fair play where only an agreed multiple of income is allowed on expenditure. If nothing else it will give those who circumvent the cap a new ruse to work on.

Do you honestly think the vested interests will allow change?
Title: Re: More off
Post by: Shugs on October 24, 2022, 03:55:38 PM
Not a chance.
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Post by: mike909 on October 24, 2022, 04:10:47 PM
It’s a good point Mike. The naivety of the clubs propped up by benefactors is amazing. Firstly they are the least sustainable clubs. Secondly they are part of the reason others become less sustainable and thirdly they don’t recognise that their actions will eventually kill the game.
Thanks Shugs - it's mainly been EA's fans - and I try and ignore them.....according to them they are the victims now. It certainly seems beyond them and others to realise what the situation is. I have a little more time for Bath.....their operating loss (least that reported in local press) was not far off the cost of putting up temp stands....but even with decent crowds, they rely upon Bruce. And on the odd occasion that a nearby STH offers a seat - Bath's nice enough for a pint!

But if Bath are struggling to cover costs with decent support (last pre covid better than us and without the "finances" issues) that sells near out most games, then rugby is in a hole. Without those outside funds.