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Title: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 01:43:00 PM
Just over an hour.

Team changes already posted so no Koch or T Willis. Replacements won't let us down but we are weaker without Tom.

Just been circled by three red kites on A14 not had that since Adams Park days. Omen?

COYW
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: wasps on October 09, 2022, 01:43:51 PM
Just over an hour.

Team changes already posted so no Koch or T Willis. Replacements won't let us down but we are weaker without Tom.

Just been circled by three red kites on A14 not had that since Adams Park days. Omen?

COYW


I miss the red kites
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on October 09, 2022, 01:49:13 PM
We regularly see Red Kites above us now (South Warwickshire), so they are spreading further every year.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 01:54:41 PM

⬅️ Vincent Koch [illness]
⬅️ Tom Willis [appendicitis]

➡️John Ryan 3️⃣
➡️ Ben Morris 6️⃣
🔁 Nizaam Carr 8️⃣

➡️ 1️⃣8️⃣ B. Alo
➡️ 2️⃣0️⃣ K. Curran
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on October 09, 2022, 02:42:45 PM
Seeing who is bidding, with the limited funds they have, and that they want to do the deal AFTER Wasps go in to administration, I can see Wasps getting the same short replies that Worcester did. Suspension, relegation.

As soon as it goes into administration, all the lien holders will call on those, the Council will terminate the rental on the arena and the entire house of cards will come tumbling down.

Not sure I can bring myself to watch this game. The players must already know and already be thinking about moving on. If I was any contractor supplying services and goods for today's match on credit, I would be asking for payment right now, or walk out with my staff.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 02:59:10 PM
Sound system faulty we are hearing buzzing
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 03:01:41 PM
That’s just too many top players missing, going to be a long afternoon
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: JF on October 09, 2022, 03:03:38 PM
D'oh! First penalty given away within 20 seconds.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 03:10:37 PM
It’s just amazing the volume of penalties we give away. We are getting overpowered
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: mike909 on October 09, 2022, 03:11:50 PM
Yes, Jack! Tears in my eyes...
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 03:11:55 PM
Carr take a bow, great run
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 03:15:06 PM
Ben Morris out for a while.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 03:16:05 PM
Another back row out.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 03:18:10 PM
Curran on.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: mike909 on October 09, 2022, 03:22:10 PM
Well spotted  Mr Mills
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 03:22:39 PM
Luckily the team doesn’t listen to me, as I was shouting take the 3 points
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 09, 2022, 03:27:22 PM
Seeing who is bidding, with the limited funds they have, and that they want to do the deal AFTER Wasps go in to administration, I can see Wasps getting the same short replies that Worcester did. Suspension, relegation.

As soon as it goes into administration, all the lien holders will call on those, the Council will terminate the rental on the arena and the entire house of cards will come tumbling down.

Not sure I can bring myself to watch this game. The players must already know and already be thinking about moving on. If I was any contractor supplying services and goods for today's match on credit, I would be asking for payment right now, or walk out with my staff.

Certainly doesn't look that way to me. It's match day. Can we not just put all the financial uncertainty and associated bullshit to one side and enjoy the game for what it is?

The withdrawal of Koch and Willis is unrelated to any of that, as I'd the injury to Morris, but the team look galvanised by all of that adversity.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 03:27:58 PM
Somebody shut Biggar up can hear him from here.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 03:29:16 PM
Wow great kick
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: mike909 on October 09, 2022, 03:29:30 PM
Somebody shut Biggar up can hear him from here.
That 50 m pen might!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 03:41:04 PM
This sounds a very nasty niggle match
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: backdoc on October 09, 2022, 03:47:07 PM
Buggering about in the last 1-2 mins of the half and they score from nothing.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 03:48:44 PM
Buggering about in the last 1-2 mins of the half and they score from nothing.

Yes indeed. Put it into touch.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: backdoc on October 09, 2022, 03:49:28 PM
So we are 7 points up at half time at home, but my bets on Northampton are offering me 150% payout!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 03:50:48 PM
Running out of scrum half people now
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 03:51:28 PM
So we are 7 points up at half time at home, but my bets on Northampton are offering me 50% payout!

Who is going to be staying in the dressing room? Biggar probably, Robson possibly.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Chunky24 on October 09, 2022, 03:52:25 PM
Is it even a game if Biggar is not hobbling and chopsing!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 09, 2022, 03:55:23 PM
Wasps very much the better side throughout that first half. Could've done without that brain fart at the end. Need an 80 minute performance and we can win this comfortably. The season to date does little to reassure me that we might get it, but we have to turn that around at some point.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 03:57:15 PM
Bad interviewed on a bat at half time. Reckons he’s going to be another 4 or 5 weeks.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 03:59:53 PM
Bad interviewed on a bat at half time. Reckons he’s going to be another 4 or 5 weeks.
Unusual twist to your standard rodeo
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 04:02:31 PM
Bad interviewed on a bat at half time. Reckons he’s going to be another 4 or 5 weeks.
Brad on BT, obviously 🤬
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:03:00 PM
Launch missing
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:03:22 PM
That was a Brad start
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:05:09 PM
How is Biggar still on
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 04:05:20 PM
Not a good start to 2nd half.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 04:05:48 PM
Cardall and Porter on.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: mike909 on October 09, 2022, 04:11:18 PM
Refl lost it on breakdown
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 04:11:41 PM
Disappointing at the end to concede a try, a bit sloppy.

First 10 minutes was a concern but we seem to have more energy after that. Hopefully we can keep that up in the 2nd half.

Please not too many Substitutions over a short period of time and lose momentum.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 04:12:51 PM
Angry Dan off.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 04:22:36 PM
Paulo starting to make an impact. Searching for work and getting his leg drive going in the tackle.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 04:23:22 PM
Two big interventions from Odogwu!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 04:26:29 PM
Bonus point  try
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 04:26:50 PM
Try of the season from Atkinson. Stunning!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 09, 2022, 04:27:00 PM
That is outstanding by Atkinson. And Bassett did very well in support too.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 04:27:10 PM
30-14
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 04:27:17 PM
Somehow managed to avoid them checking Willis for a block in the build up too
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:28:12 PM
Too easy break back
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 04:30:09 PM
This where we become dangerous … to ourselves.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 04:32:13 PM
Crowd getting vocal, good to hear.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: wasps on October 09, 2022, 04:34:36 PM
Big boot from umaga
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:37:09 PM
Jacob a red then plus a stretcher?
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 09, 2022, 04:37:22 PM
Jacob in big trouble here.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 04:39:01 PM
Umaga takes Skosan out in the air, no doubt its a red and a penalty try
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:40:39 PM
Not only killing ourselves off the pitch doing ourselves injurywise on it.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: wasps on October 09, 2022, 04:40:58 PM
It is a red, fair enough.


But Jacob hasn't even tried to tackle at that point, he's still watching the ball trying to get into position for where it'll come down.


The other guy is in the air and wipes umaga out when he's not even looking


However, under current rules, it's up to Jacob to make sure he knows where he is in relation to other players
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 04:41:02 PM
No arguments with that, but do we make life difficult for ourselves
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 09, 2022, 04:41:31 PM
Umaga takes Skosan out in the air, no doubt its a red and a penalty try

Not only that, but he's injured himself in the process.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 04:43:53 PM
Umaga walking off the pitch at least
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
It is bum clenching here
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
We might have won this
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:56:12 PM
Jeez
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Chunky24 on October 09, 2022, 04:56:35 PM
Being done by kick offs!!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:56:49 PM
How do we do it to ourselves
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Raggs on October 09, 2022, 04:57:35 PM
Looks like McDonald is even worse than Launchbury at restarts.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 04:58:33 PM
Shit shit shit
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 09, 2022, 04:58:45 PM
That final pass was forward. But the TMO "checked it", so apparently all OK.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: 13thWarrior on October 09, 2022, 04:59:25 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: JF on October 09, 2022, 05:00:13 PM
Oh FFS.

FFS!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 05:00:56 PM
Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory, again!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: JonnyD on October 09, 2022, 05:01:11 PM
Two tries conceded from dropped restarts and a man down has cost us. Just not good enough
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: mike909 on October 09, 2022, 05:02:07 PM
Jeez, how ffs. Going to pub.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 05:02:14 PM
McDonald bloody hell, catch the fucking ball. What is wrong with us. It wasn’t even a difficult catch. 2 trys in 2 minutes
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Covkid40 on October 09, 2022, 05:02:33 PM
Feel for Jacob as I thought he did ok today but his red has cost us. Starting to feel like he’s a red card waiting happen
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: backdoc on October 09, 2022, 05:03:35 PM
I cant blame Jacob. The stupid try conceded before half time left us open to this.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on October 09, 2022, 05:04:07 PM
Feel for Jacob as I thought he did ok today but his red has cost us. Starting to feel like he’s a red card waiting happen

He may well get the proverbial book thrown at him this time.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Westy68 on October 09, 2022, 05:07:23 PM
6-8 week ban for Jacob, no idea what he thought he was trying to do
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Laterontoday on October 09, 2022, 05:16:29 PM
The usual implosion. Saints fans with me in shock just can't believe what happened. I can
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 05:17:38 PM
6-8 week ban for Jacob, no idea what he thought he was trying to do
The problem was that he wasn’t thinking. He should have known a Saints player would be going to compete for the ball and never looked round.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Laterontoday on October 09, 2022, 05:21:35 PM
6-8 week ban for Jacob, no idea what he thought he was trying to do
The problem was that he wasn’t thinking. He should have known a Saints player would be going to compete for the ball and never looked round.

He knew exactly what he was doing in taking the player out. How he thought if he did he would get away with that is beyond me.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 05:29:43 PM
When we had a penalty well into Saints' territory in the final ten or so minutes, we went for a 5 metre line out. Why? We were ahead, we'd scored 4 tries and didn't need another. W H-W was on and he has a good boot, why not go for the posts? From my recollection, though by no means a gimme, it wasn't that difficult either. Instead we make a bollocks of the line out and get nothing. Launch and Dan were off. Who was skipper? That was the time to calm things down and THINK. Take all the time you have for the kick. Even if we miss, they probably have to drop out and we could well get the ball back in their half. I thought then we were going to lose the game.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 09, 2022, 05:34:02 PM
When we had a penalty well into Saints' territory in the final ten or so minutes, we went for a 5 metre line out. Why? We were ahead, we'd scored 4 tries and didn't need another. W H-W was on and he has a good boot, why not go for the posts? From my recollection, though by no means a gimme, it wasn't that difficult either. Instead we make a bollocks of the line out and get nothing. Launch and Dan were off. Who was skipper? That was the time to calm things down and THINK. Take all the time you have for the kick. Even if we miss, they probably have to drop out and we could well get the ball back in their half. I thought then we were going to lose the game.
From what I could tell Jack was skipper, or it least he was having conversations with the ref.

I was also surprised the didn’t go for points.  Even if the kick is missed it wastes time and we get the ball kicked back to us.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on October 09, 2022, 05:49:19 PM
Hard to feel anything other than an overwhelming sadness at the entire situation right now...

A piece of me genuinely believes that if we'd been playing as well as we can play for the last season or so we wouldn't be in this situation.

But it is what it is.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Mellie on October 09, 2022, 05:51:00 PM
When we had a penalty well into Saints' territory in the final ten or so minutes, we went for a 5 metre line out. Why? ...
Instead we make a bollocks of the line out and get nothing.
With that amount of time left, and with a man down, we should have been playing as much as possible with the ball in the Saints half. We just needed to execute the line out properly and keep the ball until we scored. If we had converted the penalty instead we would be facing a kick off and play in our half.

We did go for the posts with 3 minutes remaining to go 8 up, which was the correct decision. However we made another bollocks of the restart and gift a try.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Shugs on October 09, 2022, 07:29:54 PM
Just back in. Much better ball in hand. Carr, Atkinson, Willis superb. But how we lose that is beyond me and it’s just not good enough. Restarts killed us. Try just before half time killed us. And even with all that we had to see out 30 seconds and couldn’t. Analysis is fine but the fact is we’re just not good enough. We had the game won 4 times and found ways of losing. Opposing teams must love playing us - there is literally no scenario where they are beaten.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: mike909 on October 09, 2022, 08:01:18 PM
Just back in. Much better ball in hand. Carr, Atkinson, Willis superb. But how we lose that is beyond me and it’s just not good enough. Restarts killed us. Try just before half time killed us. And even with all that we had to see out 30 seconds and couldn’t. Analysis is fine but the fact is we’re just not good enough. We had the game won 4 times and found ways of losing. Opposing teams must love playing us - there is literally no scenario where they are beaten.
   +1   It just seemed inevitabkle.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 08:06:03 PM
Just home after a good run. Can't say the mood was good though. 3 minutes to go and two scores ahead. Brain farts everywhere.  Thought generally the ref was fair. Atkinson should pick up a new club easily. Plus points were Nizaam,  Jack,  Jacob until he offered himself up for an 8 week ban. Thought Mills (whole match!!!) and Burger worked well. Josh tried his normal best. Hislop was rather good. Slightly puzzled when Frosty came on for Curran. Oh well at least the Mill was open for coffee after the match. Quite a good way to say bye bye to the stadium!!
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Shugs on October 09, 2022, 08:17:33 PM
Hopefully that won’t be the case Neils. Lots to happen yet.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Rossm on October 09, 2022, 09:31:31 PM
Just home after a good run. Can't say the mood was good though. 3 minutes to go and two scores ahead. Brain farts everywhere.  Thought generally the ref was fair. Atkinson should pick up a new club easily. Plus points were Nizaam,  Jack,  Jacob until he offered himself up for an 8 week ban. Thought Mills (whole match!!!) and Burger worked well. Josh tried his normal best. Hislop was rather good. Slightly puzzled when Frosty came on for Curran. Oh well at least the Mill was open for coffee after the match. Quite a good way to say bye bye to the stadium!!

I think Curran had taken a head knock. He looked groggy and was having treatment. Frosty came on so Gaby could go in the back row. Correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Match Thread
Post by: Neils on October 09, 2022, 09:56:57 PM
Just home after a good run. Can't say the mood was good though. 3 minutes to go and two scores ahead. Brain farts everywhere.  Thought generally the ref was fair. Atkinson should pick up a new club easily. Plus points were Nizaam,  Jack,  Jacob until he offered himself up for an 8 week ban. Thought Mills (whole match!!!) and Burger worked well. Josh tried his normal best. Hislop was rather good. Slightly puzzled when Frosty came on for Curran. Oh well at least the Mill was open for coffee after the match. Quite a good way to say bye bye to the stadium!!

I think Curran had taken a head knock. He looked groggy and was having treatment. Frosty came on so Gaby could go in the back row. Correct me if I am wrong.

Probably correct and makes sense. Will watch back tomorrow. Just watched LoL try to dig himself out of the hole he apparently dug on the match coverage.