Always a Wasp

Recent Posts

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10
1
Hopefully he can escape from there one day and get back  to Bordeaux.  I thought that he actually got a green rub from Wasps  by getting a sudden spate of bench-sitting when Alfie decided that he wanted to play at 8.  It just never made sense to me. But he did well at Bordeaux.
2
Jack's career has flourished since his forced move to France. I've lost touch with what's been happening to Tom. Has his career stalled? He was always said to be the better of the two?

Yep. Opted to join a small north London club to sit on the bench. Bet Bordeaux looks good now. 😄
3
Jack's career has flourished since his forced move to France. I've lost touch with what's been happening to Tom. Has his career stalled? He was always said to be the better of the two?
4
Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Saracens
« Last post by jamestaylor002 on Today at 02:59:26 PM »

Saracens? work hard, play hard culture is much lauded, but now feels tainted

Insider adamant that despite Billy Vunipola?s conviction, the team bonding sessions have fuelled their era of unprecedented success
Ben Coles, Rugby Reporter 8 May 2024 ? 6:57am


During an interview last week following his arrest after a drunken disagreement in a Majorcan bar, the Saracens No 8 Billy Vunipola, clearly remorseful for his actions after being tasered twice at half four in the morning by Spanish police, made the following remarks during a lengthy apology. ?I caused a huge amount of embarrassment and put a spotlight on the club when they were trying to do something nice for us... I ruined it for myself and for everyone else.?

Those comments help convey how important Saracens? team socials are to their players, aware that a negative spotlight was now shining on their mid-season trips abroad with the positive benefits pushed to one side.

Twice each season ? once during the campaign and another during the off-season ? the Saracens squad have gone abroad for similar trips, seen as valuable chances to bond off the field.

To be clear, Vunipola had splintered off from the rest of the group and was accompanied by one other player, prop Marco Riccioni. Based on the account provided by the owner of the Epic bar in Palma, Riccioni conducted himself impeccably and tried to assist as much as he could, albeit to no avail. Vunipola, drinking for the first time in months and continually refusing to put his shirt back on, was tasered twice and then arrested, sedated, bailed, fined by a court and released with a suspended four-month prison sentence.


Building a strong culture has been an integral part of Saracens? rise to the top over the past two decades, from the creation of the Wolfpack defence to the introduction of the Tiki Tonga celebration, around the same time of the first Saracens trip to Cape Town all the way back in 2009, which was markedly different to how Vunipola?s night finished.

The squad trained, did some community work building houses in a township and, yes, had some nights out. As the team became more successful in the early 2010s, the time available to make those trips happen decreased and they instead became mid-season events; finding weekends in the schedule, or Sunday-Monday trips if the squad had played on a Saturday.
?You get to know them on a deeper level?

?They became more like blowouts,? as one source who has been part of previous trips put it to Telegraph Sport, before adding that the ethos from the original idea to Cape Town remained the same. ?The basic principle was that you spend time together away from your families, your worries, just the boys together. You have some drinks, it does relax people, you become closer and more connected. You understand their motivations, what inspires them, anything that goes on in their family life ? you get to know them on a deeper level.?

Players would be given conversation cards which had to be kept on them at all times; some light-hearted, some deeper, from what superhero they would be to their greatest fear. There would be group lunches with other players they did not know as well, spending time with younger players in the squad but also the club?s coaching staff.

The source adds: ?If you have that increase in motivation and deeper respect for each other, that brotherhood, then in those toughest moments you will fight for that person even more. That?s the difference between winning and losing the biggest moments.?

Since the trips were first introduced, Saracens? players and management have been to around 20 locations. There has been skiing in Verbier (without much skiing), a music festival in Chicago, spending 36 hours in Barcelona, time training in Florida with the Miami Dolphins.

When the England head coach Steve Borthwick was Saracens captain he was due to attend the 2010 Heineken Cup launch in Cardiff, only to pull out at the last minute to attend what was described by Saracens at the time as an ?important squad meeting?. In Munich. At Oktoberfest. Saracens were fined ?4,240 by tournament organisers; money well spent, they would argue, given that led by Borthwick they went on to win the Premiership title for the first time the following summer.

In the ensuing 15 years since that first squad trip up Table Mountain, Saracens have won more trophies than any other English club with six league titles (having made a further three finals), and three European Cups in the space of four years. When the trips have gone well, which they have almost all of the time, they appear to be a resounding success.
?Usually it is self-policed?

The source added: ?Obviously, there?s been incidents. Of course, there have been times when people have gone too far, but usually, touch wood, it is self-policed ? the boys get the boys home. The golden rule we say on the trips is to look after each other and make sure we get home OK, have each other?s backs.? Hence the sight of Riccioni on the bar?s CCTV, having done what he could, watching Vunipola?s arrest unfold.

The club?s relationship historically with alcohol had been viewed in a positive light ? think Alex Goode?s multi-day session after Saracens? European Cup triumph in 2019, still in his full kit by Monday evening. It is therefore unfortunate timing, to say the least, that Vunipola?s arrest for disobedience and assaulting a police officer comes a year after Kapeli Pifeleti, the Saracens hooker, plead guilty to assaulting someone on a night out in Clapham, resulting in a fine from the courts and a formal warning from the club.

Vunipola?s arrest has been swiftly dealt with and was obviously serious ? give he was tasered twice by police officers ? although it pales in comparison with the 2015 incident involving a fire extinguisher in Budapest which ended up finishing the career of the club?s flanker, Matt Hankin, after a drinking game went too far. Wearing a metal helmet, Hankin received a ?tap on the head?, according to the High Court judgment, from the fire extinguisher delivered by another player and suffered a concussion. He was erroneously cleared to return to play ahead of schedule, diagnosed with sinusitis, before suffering another concussion and being forced to retire. Hankin went on to sue the team-mate who instigated the original concussion, Richard Barrington, the club?s doctor who cleared him, Ademola Adejuwon, and Saracens for ?3.15m. The case was settled out of court, with Barrington and Adejuwon paying damages.

?It was a sad tale about someone?s career. Now, that is one black mark, which isn?t really related to a trip, I would say, because [the issue] was what happened when he got back,? the source adds. ?Yeah, there are times where people might have a fall or stuff like that, but generally no injuries, no issues. The boys appreciate that we?re very lucky to go on these trips. It is what people love doing, it?s really exciting and it?s fun. You do feel really connected.

?[Billy] was a public one, but there are certainly a lot more positives than negatives and players really believe in [the team socials]. It?s very hard to quantify, but they have a huge impact in terms of togetherness, knowing each other better, having fun together, feeling as though you are part of the whole group. Those players who are injured or not involved as much, they feel part of it and train harder, push the team harder, and the whole group moves as one altogether, which is so important.?

After Vunipola?s actions the team socials naturally feel a little tarnished, hence the No 8?s obvious contrition. It?s a feeling which will probably take many incident-free excursions to shift. However the purpose of them, and the ensuing success Saracens have had on the field, despite what happened in Majorca should not be overlooked.

The latest of Billy Vunipola's drunken antics is especially ironic given he supported Israel Folau's controversial Instagram post (the one that got him sacked by Rugby Australia), which the first category awaiting hell are "drunks"!!!
5

Saracens and Sale Sharks fail to sell Premiership semi-final ticket allocations


Tickets not sold have been made available for general sale by opponents Northampton Saints and Bath
Charlie Morgan, Senior Rugby Writer 28 May 2024 ? 3:45pm

Northampton Saints and Bath have put tickets for their Premiership semi-finals back on sale after both Saracens and Sale Sharks returned a portion of their allocations for the weekend?s matches.

It is understood that Saracens returned around 500 tickets of the 2,700 that were given to them for Friday?s play-off game at Franklin?s Gardens.

Northampton, who finished top of the Premiership to secure a first home semi-final since 2015, have subsequently announced that they will be putting these on general sale from 3pm on Tuesday. These will be priced at ?45 for adults and ?12 for children.

Although the clubs are just 62 miles away, the situation mirrors that of a year ago when Saints are understood to have returned around 300 from their allocation of 1,800 for the semi-final at StoneX Stadium against Saracens, which ended in a 38-15 win for the hosts.

On Tuesday afternoon, Bath followed suit, announcing that ?following a return of seats from the away team?s allocation, additional tickets will be made available for this weekend?s play-off against Sale Sharks?.

A source suggested that away fans have tended to purchase tickets directly from an opposition club once they know where the semi-finals will be held, meaning that a team will often be supported by more people than could be accommodated by their official ticket allocation.

This season, the line-up of play-off games was not finalised until the final day of the regular season, with Sale Sharks? victory at Saracens sending the latter into fourth, giving them a trip to Northampton, as Bath beat Saints to seal second.

Saracens are gearing up for their first away semi-final in the Premiership since 2017, when they were beaten 18-16 by Exeter Chiefs at Sandy Park. Since then, they have played in five semi-finals at StoneX Stadium and won each of them, going on to win the title four times including last season.

Premiership Rugby sources remain encouraged by ongoing ticket sales for the final, which will be held at Twickenham on June 8, and are hoping for a sell-out of the 82,000-seater venue.
6
Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps update February 2024
« Last post by Neils on May 28, 2024, 06:58:10 PM »
I saw that mail come through and can't remember if I pledged or not... Reckon I still could now?

Yes on the site or the email of you still have it.
7
Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps update February 2024
« Last post by jamestaylor002 on May 28, 2024, 06:43:23 PM »
I saw that mail come through and can't remember if I pledged or not... Reckon I still could now?
8
Wasps Rugby Discussion / France TV Deal - Stunning Figures
« Last post by Neils on May 28, 2024, 04:59:17 PM »
New figures reveal that the French Top 14 is set to significantly widen the revenue gap with other domestic rugby competitions- thanks to a lucrative new TV broadcast deal.

Canal+ has secured the broadcast rights for both the Top 14 and Pro D2 from 2027 to 2032, paying ?696.8 million for the privilege.

According to numbers reported from SportsPro Media and the LNR ? this equates to an annual payment of ?128.7 million for the Top 14, marking a 13.3 per cent increase compared to the previous agreement.

When divided out across the clubs, it will mean for every euro of TV revenue a Premiership club gets, a French Top 14 side will get roughly ?2.50.

Canal+ has been the broadcaster for French top-flight rugby since 1998. The partnership has seen the Top 14 grow into unequivocally the most commercially successful domestic rugby competition in the world.

The Pro D2 ? France?s second-tier rugby league ? will also see a substantial increase in its broadcast revenue, with Canal+ committing ?10.7 million annually, up 36 per cent from the previous deal. This cements Pro D2?s status as the most lucrative second-tier competition in the sport by some distance.

The new deal ensures that Canal+ will continue to broadcast Top 14 matches for at least the next eight years.

The significant financial boost from this deal places the Top 14 well ahead of the URC and Gallagher Premiership broadcast revenue.

This deal was negotiated for the benefit of the top 2 tiers of French rugby something that PRL/RFU seem either incapable of unwilling to do.

We can only look on in envy and dream about what this sort of income would do for championship clubs.

PRL and the RFU should hang their heads in shame.
It will be interesting to see what comes of the much anticipated announcement in June regarding the future of the professional game in England.

Nicked from The Pirates with thanks.
9
Neils,
That's because the other two supporters are away at the RFU Navel-gazing Symposium!

 :D :D :D
10
Neils,
That's because the other two supporters are away at the RFU Navel-gazing Symposium!
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10