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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« on: June 06, 2023, 05:18:55 PM »
Daily Telegraph saying deadline missed and suspension done.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/06/06/london-irish-suspended-premiership-rfu-missed-deadline/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/06/06/london-irish-suspended-premiership-rfu-missed-deadline/
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps removed from Sports network
« on: June 02, 2023, 09:26:49 AM »
Buzzer, you can use your back button or your browser history function to navigate back. The quickest and easiest method is to remember Wasps is team 96, in the the URL bar at the top of the browser just click in to the address of whatever team you are currently looking at say Quins for example (team 98) and just change the 8 for a 6. Job done.
Hope this helps speed you along. I bookmark the Wasps page after I've logged in, do that and you can jump straight back in 1 click.
Hope this helps speed you along. I bookmark the Wasps page after I've logged in, do that and you can jump straight back in 1 click.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Salary cap warning
« on: May 17, 2023, 12:20:19 PM »
This isn't the RFU's problem to solve, it is PRL's.
The cap is a self imposed rule of the PRL, it is not a World Rugby or RFU imposed rule. The enforcement, or lack thereof, of that rule is also solely down to PRL. The Prem clubs allowed the breach of the cap to go unpunished the 1st time and set all this in motion, they tried to look like they acted tough the 2nd time but the punishment dished out was for failing to engage with the monitoring process NOT for breaching the cap.
At least rant and vent against the guilty party(ies). For once this isn't the RFU's fault.
The cap is a self imposed rule of the PRL, it is not a World Rugby or RFU imposed rule. The enforcement, or lack thereof, of that rule is also solely down to PRL. The Prem clubs allowed the breach of the cap to go unpunished the 1st time and set all this in motion, they tried to look like they acted tough the 2nd time but the punishment dished out was for failing to engage with the monitoring process NOT for breaching the cap.
At least rant and vent against the guilty party(ies). For once this isn't the RFU's fault.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Worcester - Atlas have until 2nd May to complete purchase
« on: May 09, 2023, 10:46:11 AM »
The description of Cecil Duckworth's legacy being "emasculated" smacks of a desperate attempt to make this submission seem more intellectual. Did no-one proof-read it for them and point out that really doesn't mean what they think it means? The substance of the piece is accurate but includes all the same key phrases e.g. poaching a fan base, franchise, cuckoo club that were thrown about for the Coventry move.
I think the submission would be much stronger if it acknowledged the state of play Worcester are in and would still be in should Wasps not get permission to play there. The Supporters Trust should simply state that Wasps playing in Worcester does not meet the regulations and should be declined. The Trust would then have to accept there is no possibility of a Worcester phoenix club since they have also failed to meet the regulations. That is the end of the debate. Wasps playing at Sixways or not no longer has any bearing on Worcester's failure to play Championship Rugby next season given who the club and assets were sold to, the deadlines for compliance having passed and the regulations (and Wasps application for deferral being denied) making clear it is next season or not at all.
I guess it made them feel better to write the letter making it Wasps' fault their club isn't coming back, but it really isn't. Their argument can stand on its own merits by citing the regulations we are failing to meet and demonstrating why we aren't. The rest weakens those solid foundations IMHO.
I think the submission would be much stronger if it acknowledged the state of play Worcester are in and would still be in should Wasps not get permission to play there. The Supporters Trust should simply state that Wasps playing in Worcester does not meet the regulations and should be declined. The Trust would then have to accept there is no possibility of a Worcester phoenix club since they have also failed to meet the regulations. That is the end of the debate. Wasps playing at Sixways or not no longer has any bearing on Worcester's failure to play Championship Rugby next season given who the club and assets were sold to, the deadlines for compliance having passed and the regulations (and Wasps application for deferral being denied) making clear it is next season or not at all.
I guess it made them feel better to write the letter making it Wasps' fault their club isn't coming back, but it really isn't. Their argument can stand on its own merits by citing the regulations we are failing to meet and demonstrating why we aren't. The rest weakens those solid foundations IMHO.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Birmingham City
« on: March 17, 2023, 05:25:44 PM »I wonder how my income this will actually generate. As long as its profitable for Wasps, its a good move
Great to have an asset like that being utilised, but sadly I doubt it generates anything financially for Wasps. The EPIC still exists because it was never owned by Wasps and even with the same owner now it'll probably be kept totally separate.
But as Neils says at least it generates goodwill.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Slightly OT: Former of this parish new owner in other sport
« on: March 03, 2023, 04:25:51 PM »
How long before this new "rumour" makes the national press???
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Slightly OT: Former of this parish new owner in other sport
« on: March 03, 2023, 04:09:35 PM »38
Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Wasps to Sixways - Telegraph
« on: February 10, 2023, 10:30:04 AM »Quote
Next season, under the new name of ?Sixways Rugby?, they will compete in the National League 2 West.
Two more Premiership clubs in trouble as league?s debt topples ?500m
#13. Exeter Chiefs ? ?13m
#12. Gloucester ? ?27m
#11. Northampton Saints ?26.5m
#10. Worcester Warriors ? ?26.5m
#9. Sale Sharks ? ?30.9m
#8. Leicester Tigers ? ?31m
#7. Harlequins ? ?33.7m
#6. London Irish ? ?37.5m
#5. Bath ? ?37.3m
#4. Newcastle Falcons ? ?39m
#3. Saracens ? ?40.8m
#3. Bristol Bears ? ?51.2m
#1. Wasps ? ?112.3m
Amazing that Sarries, having had all their debt written off previously, is already back up to 3rd (2nd really) in that list. Can't sell out a 10k stadium yet racks up ?40m in debt. Proof that only the super rich will survive, you'll get buried trying to keep up with the spending.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Article - Is Rugby Doomed?
« on: January 31, 2023, 10:45:25 AM »
Years ago when I started playing rugby at school and for my local team all tackling was below the waist. Obviously the game has changed over the last 40 years, but in all these stories reporting "players will quit the game" no-one has asked those players why?
Is it a fear of injury to yourself as a tackler if you have to tackle low all the time? Is it fear as the tackled player? Is it simply if I can't hit 'em hard and stop 'em dead like Rugby League I don't want to play Union?
I no longer play and haven't for years, hence I cannot understand why saying tackle waist and below = well I'm not playing anymore then.
Is it a fear of injury to yourself as a tackler if you have to tackle low all the time? Is it fear as the tackled player? Is it simply if I can't hit 'em hard and stop 'em dead like Rugby League I don't want to play Union?
I no longer play and haven't for years, hence I cannot understand why saying tackle waist and below = well I'm not playing anymore then.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Well Done Premiership Rugby PR
« on: January 13, 2023, 05:02:40 PM »
Just received an email from Premiership Rugby entitled "Everything you need to know about Wasps in Europe".
I assume it'll be a short read!
Nice way to rub it in guys.
I assume it'll be a short read!
Nice way to rub it in guys.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: marler
« on: January 03, 2023, 03:38:58 PM »
I'm reminded of the late Patrick Swayze as Dalton, the 2nd best cooler in the world (Wade Garrett's still the best, Wade Garrett's getting old, he's still the best), in RoadHouse having read that transcript.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Who next?
« on: December 22, 2022, 09:56:30 AM »
WestExe Business Park was the front of shirt sponsor for Exeter's televised Euro game this weekend. Made me look it up to see if anything had been built yet, not according to their website.
Sponsored by a grass field, hmmmm, great model.
Sponsored by a grass field, hmmmm, great model.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Financial Doings by our Judges
« on: December 13, 2022, 12:16:36 PM »One suspects that the RFU are, except for scale, in as much a similar deep, deep hole as Wasps were, with absolutely no prospect of getting out of said hole.
That their auditors have not had the fortitude of character to say so in their annual report is a lamentable commentary on said 'profession'. Hence, putting pressure on the auditors, holding their round bits in front of the fire of regulation, is a more effective method of getting to the truth.
Not sure that's the case anymore. The RFU got themselves in to a mess with the cost overruns on the HQ redevelopment project, but now that expense is finished they should be back to printing more money than they know how spend. This was the position they were in pre-2015 RWC.
Obviously the CoVid years losses will take a while longer to flush out, but they laid a lot of people off and cancelled major expenditures. 4 home Autumn fixtures and next year is a Blue Home 6 Nations, I'm sure the RFU will be fine again.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Stephen Vaughan Speaks
« on: December 13, 2022, 12:06:35 PM »
Sounds worryingly like Lol's piece too that has got us so much scorn from others, "We're Wasps and deserve more/better".
That is not gonna play well. Do we deserve more than Warriors because they haven't won Euro cups???
That is not gonna play well. Do we deserve more than Warriors because they haven't won Euro cups???
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Premiership Rugby to 'relaunch' for 2024-25 after demise of Wasps & Worcester
« on: December 13, 2022, 12:02:30 PM »
A cap set by formula, the suggested % of revenue for example, further bolsters the squads of the sugar daddy rich. It is very easy to boost revenue if you don't care about profit. If that, or something equally foolish, gets through then nothing will have been learned from ours and Worcester's demise.