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Title: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Neils on January 14, 2021, 01:24:30 PM
Wasps' in-form hooker Tom Cruse clarifies contract situation

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/tom-cruse-wasps-rugby-contract-19624649#ICID=Android_CoventryTelegraphNewsApp_AppShare
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Shugs on January 14, 2021, 01:33:47 PM
Interesting that he wasn't included in that batch of players who re-signed. Wonder if his form will make the club rethink. I don't think he's ever had a dip in form to be honest and has always been good in the loose.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 14, 2021, 01:34:23 PM
Good piece. Seems honest in his own appraisal and acceptance of how he fits in. Let’s hope we get a contract sorted out soon.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Covkid40 on January 14, 2021, 01:41:40 PM
This will all come down to money. If TT leaves they will be able to pay him more and and still have extra cash in the bank and he'll stay, if TT stay's he'll leave. Personally I don't see it weakening us either way but financially we'd be better of letting TT go and keeping Cruise.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: jamestaylor002 on January 14, 2021, 01:47:32 PM
I hope we get to keep hold of Cruse as I really rate him and feel that the offers something more. I think Oghre will come into his own as he gets more experience but Cruse is a player I'd want to have around.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on January 14, 2021, 03:46:26 PM
My favourite player right now, I very much hope we manage to re-sign him.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Steve from Cov on January 14, 2021, 04:09:38 PM
Tom said he is unable to discuss his contract negotiations- which tells me he has having contract negotiations (!) and indicates Wasps have made him at least one offer.

Unfortunately I can’t see Wasps retaining 4 hookers next season and it will be Tom or Tommy who leaves.

Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on January 14, 2021, 04:58:47 PM
I have a suspicion both TT and Cruse may be out of contract, unless anyone knows differently?

What we want, as fans, is irrelevant. Wasps will have decided many months ago if they wanted them, and if so at what price. Offers will, as appropriate, have been made, or termination notified. Offers not accepted by now will likely have expired. That we have heard nothing means that they are off. It is just the 'to where' we do not know.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: wasps on January 14, 2021, 06:13:32 PM
Tom said he is unable to discuss his contract negotiations- which tells me he has having contract negotiations (!) and indicates Wasps have made him at least one offer.

Unfortunately I can’t see Wasps retaining 4 hookers next season and it will be Tom or Tommy who leaves.


A lot probably comes down to whether they see that they actually have 4 hookers.

While Barbeary has been a hooker in the academy, he's still relatively new to that position and he's shown that he has skills in other positions too.

The club may see him as a back row option now and maybe emergency hooker cover.
If so, that maybe allows budget to keep 2 senior and 1 junior hooker
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on January 14, 2021, 07:13:24 PM
For me, Barbeary is an Ashley replacement, with at least 10 years of rampaging rugby in front of him.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: welsh wasp on January 14, 2021, 08:30:33 PM
Cruse is 31 so likely looking for this final contract. Taylor is 29 so a bit more rugby.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: BG on January 14, 2021, 09:14:51 PM
What I can't work out is how he squeezed his film day job inbetween representing Wasps.. sounds like an impossible mission
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: wasps on January 14, 2021, 10:18:11 PM
For me, Barbeary is an Ashley replacement, with at least 10 years of rampaging rugby in front of him.


Ash only really had a couple of seasons in his dual role, and really it was a case of desperation that resulted in it happening.

In my opinion, Ash was 100% a back rower, who for a couple of seasons covered hooker too.



If clubs have budgets per position, then I'd expect that they apportioned the majority of Ash's costs to the back row budget.

If Lee's plan is to do the same with Alfie, then I can see us maybe keeping the other 3.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Trevs Big Tackle on January 14, 2021, 11:05:47 PM
Isn't Barbeary lined up to replace Fekitoa at 13...  ;)
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 14, 2021, 11:15:16 PM
What I can't work out is how he squeezed his film day job inbetween representing Wasps.. sounds like an impossible mission
Not so difficult, just works knight and day.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Horusthewasp on January 14, 2021, 11:51:40 PM
What I can't work out is how he squeezed his film day job inbetween representing Wasps.. sounds like an impossible mission
Not so difficult, just works knight and day.

Well he is a Maverick
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Rifleman Harris on January 15, 2021, 09:44:19 AM
That was a Top Pun
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 15, 2021, 09:47:54 AM
It’s a risky business alright
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Rifleman Harris on January 15, 2021, 09:57:53 AM
He excels in bad weather - Days of Thunder or when it's Rain, man.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on January 15, 2021, 10:31:31 AM
Wow this is a Cocktail of terrible puns...
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Brandnewtorugby on January 15, 2021, 10:33:45 AM
I love it when he's on a Mission, Impossible to stop him.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 15, 2021, 10:40:06 AM
It only takes a few good men to keep this going
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Neils on January 15, 2021, 11:05:25 AM
Got to keep Reachering out for them then.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 15, 2021, 11:16:08 AM
Got to keep Reachering out for them then.

Legend!
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on January 15, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
Got to keep Reachering out for them then.

Legend!
This is Far and Away the best one yet.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: RogerE on January 15, 2021, 12:05:00 PM
At least he isn't playing as if it's with his eyes wide shut
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Neils on January 15, 2021, 12:14:21 PM
If he did he would need his Mummy.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 15, 2021, 12:23:47 PM
No for me he’s making all the right moves
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Garuda on January 15, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
I hope Cruse stays.

He's Far and Away our best hooker.

Edit: Bah. VV beat me to it. But seriously, Cruse is first choice hooker for me.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: DGP Wasp on January 15, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
I hope Cruse stays.

He's Far and Away our best hooker.

Edit: Bah. VV beat me to it. But seriously, Cruse is first choice hooker for me.

Agreed. Although we are fortunate to have A Few Good Men in that position.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 15, 2021, 01:51:17 PM
I hope Cruse stays.

He's Far and Away our best hooker.

Edit: Bah. VV beat me to it. But seriously, Cruse is first choice hooker for me.

Agreed. Although we are fortunate to have A Few Good Men in that position.

Need to get him signed up soon though. Must show him the colour of money.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Horusthewasp on January 15, 2021, 02:14:20 PM
I hope Cruse stays.

He's Far and Away our best hooker.

Edit: Bah. VV beat me to it. But seriously, Cruse is first choice hooker for me.

Agreed. Although we are fortunate to have A Few Good Men in that position.

Need to get him signed up soon though. Must show him the colour of money.

Agree he is a Legend.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: hookender on January 15, 2021, 10:29:40 PM
Shall we send this thread to oblivion ?
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Horusthewasp on January 15, 2021, 11:03:56 PM
Shall we send this thread to oblivion ?

Only when they show him the money and get the contract extension done.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: Lwasp on January 18, 2021, 03:46:00 PM
Open the TAPS and let the money flow.
Title: Re: Cruise confirms out of contract
Post by: andermt on January 19, 2021, 08:32:10 AM
He does know All The Right Moves