Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: MartinB - Radnage Wasp on December 29, 2022, 06:50:07 PM
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A piece in the Birmingham Mail for interest only (I hope).
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/solihull-moors-issues-statement-mindless-25853617
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And at the CBSA.
Coventry City get tough on drug taking and under age drinking at matches
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/coventry-city-dave-boddy-fans-25850040 (https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/coventry-city-dave-boddy-fans-25850040)
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I read the press release and it doesn't really say what behaviour is not acceptable. It sort of implies racism because it says Moors are an inclusive club. Let's hope that whoever it is aimed at realise and either change or stop going.
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Allegedly, a small number of Moors fans were giving homophobic, racist, and other types of abuse. Wrexham player Ben Tozer was getting some directed at him every time he was taking throw ins near their fans. The racist abuse was mainly anti-Welsh.
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Midlands Hurricanes rugby league are releasing their new home venue tomorrow, might be interesting to see where that is as talk previously has been of Alexandra Stadium following its commonwealth games revamp.
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Alexander Stadium confirmed for the Hurricanes RL next year, moving into main part of the complex the following year.
https://midlandshurricanes.com/news/theres-a-storm-brewing-at-the-alexander-stadium
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That looks impressive.
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"two permanent stands seating 18,000" that would do
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This would be absolutely spot on for Wasps if there was ever an opportunity for us.
Would be pretty empty in the champ though
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Wherever we play we need to generate an atmosphere. Hard to do at CBS when only a third full, even harder at the Alex sat a mile away from pitch.
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Wherever we play we need to not go bust again. Pragmatism has to be a guiding factor.
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First things first let's get some players. Until then we're just a memory of a team.
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"two permanent stands seating 18,000" that would do
Why? What need would Wasps in the championship have for a 18k stadium?
Currently Wasps consists of:
Owners
The Badge
A place in the Championship
Pudsey (although technically I assume he is employed by the EPIC owners?)
People are seriously getting ahead of themselves thinking about a ground that Wasps wouldn't have filled in the Prem!
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I do wonder if fans proposing fanciful ideas of grounds of £10k or £18k capacity are getting carried away and have looked at the general standard of grounds in the Championship. Caldy play in a ground with a single main stand and then its very much a rail around the edge of the pitch. Nottingham, Rotherham, Jersey, Pirates are all much the same. Ealing has perhaps the best ground. Lets try walking before we can even jog. We don't have any money currently, have a debt to pay, don't have any players let alone be thinking several years on of needing a Prem standard ground. A non league standard footie ground with a ten year lease would be perfect for the new club and the championship. We were spoilt with the standard of facility at the CBSA.
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I do wonder if fans proposing fanciful ideas of grounds of £10k or £18k capacity are getting carried away and have looked at the general standard of grounds in the Championship. Caldy play in a ground with a single main stand and then its very much a rail around the edge of the pitch. Nottingham, Rotherham, Jersey, Pirates are all much the same. Ealing has perhaps the best ground. Lets try walking before we can even jog. We don't have any money currently, have a debt to pay, don't have any players let alone be thinking several years on of needing a Prem standard ground. A non league standard footie ground with a ten year lease would be perfect for the new club and the championship. We were spoilt with the standard of facility at the CBSA.
I think you may be right, 18,000 is a lot for Premiership rugby standards, let alone rugby generally. The biggest stadium in the Premiership is 28,000 and that's Ashton Gate - which is also used for football. The next largest is the only non-football stadium and that's Welford Road. After that, it's a sharp drop down to just over 17,000 which is Brentford's ground (London Irish). After that, it generally sits around the 14,000 - 16,000 capacity stadiums that are for clubs which have rich historical roots to their area (Quins, Bath, Gloucester, Northampton etc).
Then you have Newcastle and Sale that are 10,000 and 12,000 respectively. This is where Wasps need to be at a minimum (subject to funding/ability to put a squad together) if they have hopes of rejoining the Premiership - provided the RFU/PRL don't pull the drawbridge up before then.
In my opinion, Wasps should only get to that point when/if a stable foundation has been made and they can seriously look to the future. Until then, we as fans need to appreciate (and I'm sure many do) that Wasps need to take what they can get that also meets the RFU's requirements and allows the club to grow sustainably.
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It's only 18k if the whole thing is open, capacity can be adjusted accordingly, in fact the Hurricanes aren't even in the main stadium next season they are on the practice track infield.
It is merely an example of what a relatively small organisation in a relatively small national league division 3 can do with some organisation, potential future planning and support of a combined regional authority (who have been supportive of Wasps previously).
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Who us going to stump up the money for us to play in a ground when there is virtually no evidence of how many fans will turn up?
It's fantasy.
We have to cut our cloth according to our means. It has to be proved that 5,000 will turn up regularly before even thinking about something with a greater capacity. And those who do turn up will be watching a team of largely unknowns.
Walk before you can run.
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Hurricanes averaged 312 with a high of 655 last season, someone thinks it's worth it to stump up.
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Hurricanes averaged 312 with a high of 655 last season
& I thought some of the Wasps fans are delusional! That takes it to a whole new level!
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Hurricanes averaged 312 with a high of 655 last season
& I thought some of the Wasps fans are delusional! That takes it to a whole new level!
Maybe but i think it also shows there is wider support and benefit for getting them there than just what the club are putting in.
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The Hurricanes have a great marketing team.
They do a season ticket @ £35 if you get in the ground 2 hours before kick off.
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Love it — discount the ticket and make it back in burgers, beer and merch
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Love it — discount the ticket and make it back in burgers, beer and merch
Very clever, I bet the owners of the food and drink outlets think it's a great idea too.