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General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Rossm on October 06, 2022, 06:25:35 PM

Title: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: Rossm on October 06, 2022, 06:25:35 PM
Well, well well.
So as we suspected, ability has nothing to do with it.

Report  by the Beeb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63156026 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63156026)

Referees missed out on officiating top rugby matches because selectors were unfairly critical of their body shape, the Rugby Football Union has admitted.

An investigation commissioned by the RFU has found referees were judged on "body size, weight or shape", even if they had passed fitness assessments.
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: JF on October 06, 2022, 08:32:02 PM
Note the use of "body shape".

It seems that being fat-headed is no barrier.
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: WonkyWasp on October 06, 2022, 09:15:26 PM
How can you say a ref has a 'bad' body shape when you consider all the varieties of body shapes of the players?  And most of the players are of not inconsiderable weight but can still run and last 80 minutes.  Bonkers.
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: Raggs on October 06, 2022, 09:35:30 PM
Fitness for refs needs to be very high. They're expected to get around the pitch like scrum halves, but then also chase every single kick. Their running fitness levels must be insanely high. Doesn't make discriminating against someone who's passed the tests right though.
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: Heathen on October 06, 2022, 10:36:02 PM
Are they any better than the top rated refs of 20 years ago?

In my day we were just glad to a have a referee appointed for our games!
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: wasps on October 07, 2022, 08:18:21 AM
Are they any better than the top rated refs of 20 years ago?

In my day we were just glad to a have a referee appointed for our games!


I don't know if they're better, that's pretty subjective, especially based on what the refs were asked to focus on at any given time.


However, I'd say they're definitely fitter these days.




If you watch that horrific game against Gloucester when LRZ ran the full length of the pitch to score against us, the ref started on Gloucester's 5m line when LRZ got the ball. When LRZ scored, the ref was on our 5m line.


This may be an exception, and there may have been exceptions in the past too, but I remember many a game in the past where the ref had given up the chase around the half way line
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 07, 2022, 09:18:53 AM
Got to be honest, I struggle to keep up when reffing my son's U10s these days! :)
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: Raggs on October 07, 2022, 09:34:36 AM
Got to be honest, I struggle to keep up when reffing my son's U10s these days! :)

Pitches keep getting bigger! I'm generally going for long range reffing, or keeping them playing on small pitches "to help with contact skills"....
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: DGP Wasp on October 07, 2022, 10:58:00 AM
Got to be honest, I struggle to keep up when reffing my son's U10s these days! :)

Pitches keep getting bigger! I'm generally going for long range reffing, or keeping them playing on small pitches "to help with contact skills"....

Problem with long range reffing is the deteriorating eyesight! :D
Title: Re: RFU 'Fat-shaming' culture blocked referees' progression
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on October 07, 2022, 11:14:55 AM
Got to be honest, I struggle to keep up when reffing my son's U10s these days! :)

Pitches keep getting bigger! I'm generally going for long range reffing, or keeping them playing on small pitches "to help with contact skills"....

Problem with long range reffing is the deteriorating eyesight! :D
Referees being notorious for poor eyesight, so it won’t make much difference 😉