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General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: hookender on May 21, 2022, 08:15:25 PM

Title: What a farce
Post by: hookender on May 21, 2022, 08:15:25 PM
 Despite the title at least it nothing to do with Wasps.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/world-rugby-sevens-match-descends-24025155

 
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: Wombles on May 21, 2022, 08:36:34 PM
How to make friends and influence people!  ???
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on May 21, 2022, 09:05:27 PM
Economics 101: incentives matter.
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: Mellie on May 21, 2022, 09:32:59 PM
Should be a yellow card offence and a penalty thereby continuing the game. Like a use use it or lose it.
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on May 22, 2022, 08:06:35 AM
Law 9.27 Misconduct

A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship.
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on May 22, 2022, 09:26:03 AM
Law 9.27 Misconduct

A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship.
I’d like to see that one used a lot more to cut out all the whooping & hollering whenever a team gets decision their way, especially when it was a mistake by the opposition. 

Sale were at it yesterday.
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: wasps on May 22, 2022, 11:01:52 AM
Law 9.27 Misconduct

A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship.


Who would get that thrown at them?


The whole England team or just the player?
Every single game of 7s will likely have 1 try where someone tries to run the clock down a little bit.


The Argentina team for not wanting to tackle him?
Are they really the ones at fault?
All they've done is not run 50 yards to pretend to try to tackle someone who they won't get near.




While I agree that it's a complete farce of a situation, I don't know what the solution would be.
If this has just happened once, maybe it's not something that needs fixing. If it becomes a regular problem then something might need to be done





Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on May 22, 2022, 11:53:47 AM
We have all seen this rule most commonly applied by Nigel Owens. He never quoted it, but inferred it many times, for example, when suggesting a player faking injury should come back next week (for a roundball game).

All the ref had to say was, 'Touch it down so the crowd can watch what they paid to see.' No threats or any penalty. A simple instruction to get on with the game.

The same with the Hoo-rah calls on winning a scrum penalty.

My view is that scrums are a way to re-start a game, not win penalties. As we saw at the Lyon game. Not the way we saw on Friday. As soon as the ball is won (it gets hooked), the ref should call use it. As soon as 'Use it' is called any collapse of popping up might results in a reset if the ball gets trapped in a melee, otherwise, on we go.
Title: Re: What a farce
Post by: Bloke in North Dorset on May 22, 2022, 02:53:55 PM
You can watch it here.

https://twitter.com/worldrugby7s/status/1527990232737619970?s=21&t=91xjUJrnEMCJFI6UGG_XOw

The ref does appear to be hassling him to ground the ball but obviously didn’t penalise him.