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General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: WaspieMatt on July 24, 2019, 01:31:58 PM

Title: DW site
Post by: WaspieMatt on July 24, 2019, 01:31:58 PM
For those of you who still visit and contribute to the ‘other’ forum, I’m sure it’s hasn’t gone unnoticed that it’s been down for some considerable time.
I’ve spoken to one of the mods and there are some technical issues which is causing the delay in it going back online as opposed to any other reasons.
Matters are in hand and I’m sure it will be back up and running and a source of much argument again soon!
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: BG on July 24, 2019, 02:41:36 PM
I haven't missed it.

The "technical" issues are that normally articles haven't been uploaded.. but this probably points to a fundamental problem in the how Sportnetwork (Durham Associates) designed it to be a website with a forum attached.

In the middle of summer there aren't really any articles or points of interest to upload.

There is plenty of chat on most of the other forums. Wuss and Tiggers have a poll running as to whether to move or not, Quins have obviously moved, we have this one thanks to Vesp, a few mods/admins on other sites have said they no longer want to offer their freetime in trying to keep their site up and running. I suspect that as internet browsers change and how users access the web (phones, tablets), its becoming more and more difficult to tweak the Sportnetwork forums to keep running.

A user from Sale has created an "all in encompassing" forum site that the above forums are wondering whether to move to .. plus it allows links to "off-shore forums" like this one, Quins and Shedweb so that everyone can quickly look to see what other club supporters are talking about which is useeful, but not essential


Title: Re: DW site
Post by: baldpaul101 on July 24, 2019, 02:54:46 PM
I've not missed it either, take your time fixing it!
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Wiltshire Wasp on July 24, 2019, 03:33:25 PM
The only interest I see in its return is that the “argumentative” posts will stay there rather than migrate to here.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: WaspieMatt on July 24, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
I’m told that on this occasion it has nothing to do with a lack of published news articles.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: BG on July 24, 2019, 05:08:15 PM
I’m told that on this occasion it has nothing to do with a lack of published news articles.

Let's try and guess..

A criminal case involving comments?
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: westwaleswasp on July 24, 2019, 05:55:03 PM
I find that *most* of the comment on DW is fine in terms of politeness to me, but sorely lacking in terms of politeness in general. Some posters seem to have a huge beef with each other. Shame as we are supposed to be on the same side and you would not speak that way to someone in a pub. I guess social media has gone that way, as has political discourse.

I think it is not only the lack of politeness that puts people off, I think that the fact that threads get repeated ad nauseam and that people post too soon after the match does not help calm things.

I don't agree with all the anti- Dai sentiment that tends to dominate there, although I do think that Cipriani is by far and away the best ten in the Prem, and the best one to have worn the shirt for Wasps in the pro era, something I suspect I would have difficulty convincing many here of.

I do wonder why people who don't like it read it, I guess it is for the same reason that some socialists I know buy the Telegraph, and some Conservatives I know buy The Guardian.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on July 24, 2019, 09:03:31 PM
The only 'side' I am on is ...

I LIKE watching exciting and open rugby. To me, who is playing is immaterial. I like to watch it live. The broadcast version is a very poor imitation of the live version. Total lack of atmosphere. and when watching live, you can see the nuances of play off the ball that the TV, pundits and commentators often miss. You get to meet the players, who are, 100% genuinely nice folk.

Of course, if one or both teams aren't playing that style of rugby, but instead are looking like a team of estate agents or devonshire clots, it instantly makes the game less attractive to watch live.

Too many of the forum poster on DW are TV Trolls. Even if they are at the game, they might be glued to their 'Smart' phones. How on earth do you go to watch a game live and have your phone out? How moronic can people be? These are the same people I see daily texting whilst driving, killing us motorbikers in huge numbers (in the USA it is now THE #1 cause of motorcycle rider deaths). And, whilst I am having a beer or two in this heat, a shout out to the guy I passed at the weekend driving his 4x4 watching a movie on his phone held in both hands on his steering wheel. On the M6, at 70(ish) MPH.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Shugs on July 24, 2019, 09:53:06 PM
I enjoy both sites. It's all Wasps chat after all! DW can get a bit more negative I find but that is the opinion of the individual poster. Some people you can debate with, some you can't. At the end of the day it's enjoyable to have a couple of places to debate Wasps stuff - the more the merrier.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: westwaleswasp on July 25, 2019, 12:41:54 AM
My wife always prefers TV- you do see more overall, I think she is right on that, but at the game you see part of the game in often greater detail. I akways enjoy 7 am in the pub in the mornings watching Lions tours too. I often prefer away games over home ones, depending on the location.

Title: Re: DW site
Post by: King Prawn Phuna on July 25, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
As an interloper, resident of Coventry and occasional visitor to the Ricoh (cajoled into signing up here instead of lurking...you know who you were ;)) I enjoy this site for its content far more than DW, very similar to Shedweb without one or two of the edgier characters ...keep up the good work.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Gaz on July 25, 2019, 10:58:37 AM
All well and good criticising those who watch on TV but just remember that some were forced into that decision when the club relocated. I was a multi year season ticket holder but now I don't have a seat  I don't have a say?
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Rossm on July 25, 2019, 12:09:29 PM
I watch on TV, PC actually, (RugbyPass, so I never miss a Wasps' game) because I'm now disabled and can't make it to The Ricoh (or anywhere else for that matter) - much as I would like to.

As for the DW site, I don't miss it much. I've had my share of flame wars there over the years. I've got a hide like a rhino so none of the abuse bothered me at all. Unfortunately some good posters have vanished forever which is a shame.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: DrHankPym(superhero) on July 25, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
I've caved in and joined the site (though I'll still visit DW)

By and large I try to avoid the arguements.

Roll on the new season, only three-ish months to go  :P
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: BG on July 25, 2019, 04:47:01 PM
I've just received the first early bird ticket offer for the Sarries game.. 2 months almost to the day.

I don't envy the guys doing pre-season training in this weather.

Title: Re: DW site
Post by: JF on July 25, 2019, 06:57:12 PM
The DW site used to be fantastic. When we had Tuesday lunchtime chat sessions it really felt like a community.

Everything - the club, the sport, the people - has moved on since then. Whether it's been for the best is a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Rossm on July 25, 2019, 08:23:05 PM
When we had Tuesday lunchtime chat sessions it really felt like a community.


Wasn't that about 20 years ago?
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: BG on July 28, 2019, 09:59:14 AM
When we had Tuesday lunchtime chat sessions it really felt like a community.


Wasn't that about 20 years ago?

I see the designer (or team) have updated the SportNetwork sites (Wasps still down.. has it been closed down by GCHQ I wonder??).

As far as I can tell they've simply changed the colours and fonts?

From what I've read on other clubs' sites, the problem is more about functionality and managing the behind the scenes stuff that admins/mods have to do.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Rossm on July 28, 2019, 12:01:20 PM
Dropped into the Estate Agent's board on SN. It looks barely half finished. Some posters there are accusing any clubs leaving SN to be 'insular'. Also, the prospect of registering and logging into separate sites seems to be too much of a chore for them to bother. ::)
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: westwaleswasp on July 28, 2019, 01:02:43 PM
It would certainly be easier if all the sites were in one place, with a drop down menu to navigate, a la SN. Obviously SN have other issues.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Neils on August 01, 2019, 11:28:25 AM
Back up and running.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Rossm on August 02, 2019, 12:55:41 PM
Quite frankly, looks an awful mess. SN say they've been trying to improve things :o Amateur night.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: BG on August 03, 2019, 07:26:07 AM
I wonder how long it will be before it disappears again though.

The obvious changes are the different font colours which makes it very difficult to read. Apart from that I don't notice a great deal of difference. Perhaps the majority of the upgrade was behind the scenes stuff that us mortals don't get to see
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Vespula Vulgaris on August 03, 2019, 08:44:24 AM
I wonder how long it will be before it disappears again though.

The obvious changes are the different font colours which makes it very difficult to read. Apart from that I don't notice a great deal of difference. Perhaps the majority of the upgrade was behind the scenes stuff that us mortals don't get to see

The admin site hasn't changed at all.

It's just new CSS that's been rushed out as a supposed fix in reaction to site after site leaving.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Raggs on August 03, 2019, 09:17:29 AM
You can now click on the word NEW to be taken to the first unread post. A very old feature on most forums, but apparently state of the art stuff for sportsnetwork. I guess given the numbers leaving they finally decided to do what was probably a straightforward update to actually provide functionality.

Shame about the disgusting colours.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Rossm on August 03, 2019, 10:16:11 AM

Shame about the disgusting colours.

That's not just the DW site :(
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Chilham on August 07, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Seems to be a bit of animosity there towards this site.  At least, I can only imagine they're referring to OaWAaW.  Referred to as a, "Safe space", in a post subsequently taken down, and now as the, "Glee Club".
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: BG on August 07, 2019, 11:53:29 AM
I don't mind the Glee club as long as we can have the singing cheerleaders..




Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Rossm on August 07, 2019, 12:03:15 PM
Despite returning, it's not very active.
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: matelot22 on August 07, 2019, 12:08:01 PM
Despite returning, it's not very active.

I can't recall how long ago it's been since it was busy during the off season, probably back in the days of Barney et al????
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: RogerE on August 07, 2019, 12:48:20 PM
Despite returning, it's not very active.

I can't recall how long ago it's been since it was busy during the off season, probably back in the days of Barney et al????

Ah the good old days of Mornington Crescent
Title: Re: DW site
Post by: Tervueren on August 07, 2019, 12:52:09 PM
Don't use that phrase on the endless thread