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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Dickson
« on: April 27, 2024, 10:18:45 PM »
But should Dickson, a Quins Player before retirement, have been the referee for such a high profile match.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Holland working hard for WW
« on: April 25, 2024, 01:11:05 PM »
Thanks for posting.  Little Wasps content but what there is is positive if linked to WW comeback possibilities.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Holland working hard for WW
« on: April 25, 2024, 12:31:22 PM »
you mean this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5d6me8dy1o

There are two pieces on their board - one by a female basically reading out a statement (sounds like) and the second is a bloke talking and kind of answering questions - both BBC people.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Holland working hard for WW
« on: April 25, 2024, 12:11:02 PM »
On the WW board links to BBC commentary.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: US league anyone?
« on: April 22, 2024, 06:16:51 PM »
Looks like, generally, a compilation of various articles. Might be a new Kenny interview with him pulling together various threads. 

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 22, 2024, 10:06:57 AM »
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Season 2024-25 will be a Championship of 12 clubs, comprising the 11 existing Championship clubs and the winner of National One (Chinnor RFC).

Council approved a process for existing Championship clubs to validate and evidence their ability to meet the ?essential? minimum operating standards, and other matters, in order to participate in the new Tier 2 league, which will ultimately be decided by the Tier 2 Management Board.

So no room for Wasps, or LI & Wuss next season.

So is there a "Championship" next season with a new potentially expanded "Tier2" the season after? Is that what is being proposed?

As far as I can recall it has always been a 25/26 reentry (if it is to happen). The PRL planned all along to up the funding cap next season and the RFU seemed to suggest after that levels off a change can occur - pure bollocks of course!

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 19, 2024, 10:15:47 PM »

RFU
COUNCIL UPDATE - 19 APRIL 2024
icon-clock Posted 5 Hours Ago

RFU
An RFU Council meeting was held today (Friday 19 April) with votes held on the following topics: 



TIER 2 UPDATE
Since February 2023, the RFU, Championship Clubs Committee and Premiership Rugby Limited have been working to develop a reimagined Tier 2.  The objective is to create a second tier that supports the English system by developing young English talent, whilst supporting the clubs to become financially sustainable by growing local audiences and increasing the value in the league.   

RFU Council has approved the following:

The principles of a new governance structure and decision-making responsibilities for the new league ? the composition of a Tier 2 Management Board will be three representatives from each of the RFU and Championship Clubs Committee with an independent Chair. The objective for the board is to create a body with independent, club and RFU representation responsible for decision-making for certain decisions relating to the league, giving it the ability to respond to the new Tier 2 specific context, while also streamlining the interactions with the delivery functions and club representations to ensure the optimal running and commercialisation of the league.  The Tier 2 Management Board will be put in place at the earliest opportunity.   

Revised and enhanced Minimum Operating Standards (MOS) driving player development, fan experience, and growth ambitions ? the RFU Council today approved the ?essential? MOS that must be in place by the start of the 2025-26 season (see detail below).   

Aligned to the growth ambitions for the league, the standards have been divided into three categories.

Essential ? standards that must be in place by the start of the 2025-26 season in order to participate in the league.

Phased essential - standards will be introduced to the league as determined by the Tier 2 Management Board.

Aspirational ? standards linking to those for the Premiership, providing clubs seeking promotion with a benchmark to work towards.   

League size and competition structure options ? the RFU Council approved the principle that Tier 2 will comprise 14 clubs for season 2025-26. 

Between the April and June Council meetings further modelling around 12, 14 and 16 club league structures, balancing commercial and performance with player welfare will take place.  The precise mechanism for the selection of additional clubs will be worked on and presented at the June Council meeting.

Whilst a 14-team structure is preferable at this stage, a 16-team option is considered to be an aspirational goal for the league?s growth and development, and additional work is required to assess the future optimum number.  Further recommendations will be brought to the June Council meeting.   

Season 2024-25 will be a Championship of 12 clubs, comprising the 11 existing Championship clubs and the winner of National One (Chinnor RFC). 

Council approved a process for existing Championship clubs to validate and evidence their ability to meet the ?essential? minimum operating standards, and other matters, in order to participate in the new Tier 2 league, which will ultimately be decided by the Tier 2 Management Board.

Championship clubs, and Chinnor RFC, winner of National One, will be communicated with around the process for self-validation and provision of additional evidence.   

Discussions around promotion and relegation to/from the Premiership are ongoing as part of the Professional Game Partnership, which would require Council approval and will be brought to the June meeting.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tolouse v Exeter
« on: April 16, 2024, 02:08:56 PM »
Most importantly at half time it could have been 3 English clubs in the semis - not quite the doom and gloom scenario some were forecasting

Well thankfully not.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: The Sunday Times
« on: April 16, 2024, 07:59:08 AM »
The article reads like self-entitled tosh. SJ has been poor for a long time now

Nothing quite beats his article on the london 7s last year though. Wrote an entire article for the ST on how crap the atmosphere was and how poorly attended it was - unfortunately for him he'd had one too many sherries and posted it the day before the actual event took place. And of course (as his way) doubled down massively on twitter when called out on it. Guy is an absolute melon.

BUT still an influential one with them upstairs.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: The Sunday Times
« on: April 14, 2024, 02:57:35 PM »
Thanks. Interesting article.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Ex Wasps signing for new clubs
« on: April 13, 2024, 08:36:13 PM »
Can't think that Quins are letting Will Porter go anywhere at all.  He and Launch are way up high in the Quins Popularity Stakes.

My mistake - blame it on Rail Replacement buses into London.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Ex Wasps signing for new clubs
« on: April 13, 2024, 05:46:23 PM »
This is the Porter just released by Quins.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Ex Wasps signing for new clubs
« on: April 11, 2024, 10:47:17 PM »
Thanks for posting

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: overseas player
« on: April 11, 2024, 12:16:31 PM »

RFU chief brushes off England player drain to France: ?They?re making a lifestyle choice?

Bill Sweeney, speaking 500 days out from home Women?s World Cup, also confirms Red Roses will play Black Ferns at Twickenham in September
Fiona Tomas 9 April 2024 ? 6:00pm
Related Topics

    England Rugby Union Team, RFU, Top 14


Bill Sweeney, the Rugby Football Union chief executive, has brushed off concerns over England?s talent drain to France, claiming players crossing the Channel are making ?a lifestyle choice as much as anything else?.

Last month, Kyle Sinckler and Lewis Ludlam joined a growing exodus of homegrown players who are swapping the Premiership for the Top 14 when signing for Toulon.

The duo, who both featured for England at last year?s World Cup but were omitted from Steve Borthwick?s Six Nations squad this year, will join Owen Farrell and Manu Tuilagi in France next season, where a generous salary cap offers greater financial appeal. As England?s leading Test points-scorer and third most-capped men?s player, Farrell is expected to earn close to ?1 million a season when he joins Racing 92.

Billy Vunipola is also understood to be on the verge of signing for Montpellier, while his brother, Mako, is also rumoured to be leaving. A host of other England internationals, including wing Henry Arundell, centre Joe Marchant, flanker Jack Willis and lock David Ribbans, already ply their club trade in France?s top division.

Amid delays over hybrid contracts and the new Professional Game Partnership, which is being negotiated between the RFU and Premiership clubs, Sweeney dismissed concerns that England is leaking talent.

?I don?t think the delay [in sorting the PGP] has had any impact on that,? he said. ?Where we currently stand on the policy of only selecting players based in England stays as it is. If you actually look at the players we?ve got abroad, they probably made a decision in terms of, ?Where?s my England career currently? Am I in contention for a place in those hybrid contracts? Am I in that core group of England players going forward??

?If they?ve come to the conclusion that they?re not ? and most of them have had conversations with Steve [Borthwick] anyway ? it?s partly a lifestyle choice as much as anything else. Some of the players that have gone haven?t gone for more money.

?They?re coming to the end of their professional career, do they want to spend three or four years in France and have a different experience with family or maybe in some cases, maybe it is financially driven. If you look at the number of players going abroad, it doesn?t really impact our core group of England players quite so much.

?There?s maybe one or two that you think we?d rather have over here. Joe Marchant is rumoured to be coming back to the Premiership this year, so from our perspective, we?re okay with it.?

Weeks after extraordinary plans emerged that the RFU considered selling Twickenham and buying half of Wembley, Sweeney indicated work to redevelop the national stadium would not begin for at least three years. ?The stadium needs upgrading,? he said. ?It has to be fit for purpose because it?s such an important revenue generator for us. We?re going through all the planning phases and various different options but you won?t see development or work on the stadium until about 2027.?

Sweeney, who was speaking at an event at North Bristol RFC marking 500 days until next year?s Women?s World Cup in England, also confirmed that the Red Roses would host world champions New Zealand in a standalone match at Twickenham this September.

The fixture will act as one of England?s warm-up matches for WXV ? the Red Roses will also face France ? as the RFU aims to build on its growing women?s fanbase ahead of what is tipped to be an ?era-defining tournament?.

More than 42,000 tickets have already been sold for England?s Women?s Six Nations match against Ireland at Twickenham on April 20, which could surpass the 58,648 record attendance that watched the Red Roses? Grand Slam victory over France at the home of English rugby last year.

?If you look at women?s sport, what?s happening with the Lionesses in football and you see it across cricket as well, women?s sport is here to stay and we need to make sure it grows as quickly as possible,? said Sweeney.

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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Ex Wasps signing for new clubs
« on: April 10, 2024, 08:15:49 AM »
I foresee a gradual decline for Saracens over the next 4-5 years.

Can but hope.

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