Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: coddy on February 16, 2020, 08:07:40 AM
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So we now know that Dai is not moving upstairs and it's unlikely Blackett will take over long term so with that in mind who's available that would be acceptable to Wasps supporters?
I would expect Lee to see out the rest of this season so whoever takes over from Dai may not be available now but will be come the summer.
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TRP today suggests Worsley with Alex King declined us to stay where he is (Brive). Wasps have apparently shown interest in Walder. Makes the point that withDai on £350k per year it will be a massive payout. The piece only says Worzel "could" so pinch of salt time.
In other news everyone else signing players with Loz Bath bound.
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Worzel and Kinga. I would be very happy with those two. Wasps DNA. Kinga won the Top 14 with Clermont. Worzel did well at Bordeaux.
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Sorry re-read my post and now corrected. King has decided to stay with Brive. Also the Worsley headline looks like click bait only but we can wish.
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I don't think Wurzel is clickbait.
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I don't think Wurzel is clickbait.
No I said the headline to the article is. It basically says nothing about him and us. The only content is how much Dai will cost to be shown the door and that we are interested in Walder.
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I want a DoR with some 'fire', Dai in recent years became more and more subdued in terms of demeanour and when interviewed. Blackett seems to be more of the same. Love or loathe a DoR like Steve Diamond but that is what Wasps need (IMO) right now, someone who can get the squad playing to their potential and making the players accountable for their on field performance and attitude. On paper we should have overcome Tigers yesterday, however there seemed to be very little spark or passion, Willis, Dobbie and Young aside.
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Rassie Erasmus was in the country when it all kicked off......
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So was Cheika doing some of the 6N punditry, yes he's very vocal/outspoken but is driven and has passion.
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I suppose there are two parts to it. If it was just open season and you could pick anyone I'd be opening the chequebook for Dan Macfarland at Ulster. If it's who is available it's more difficult obviously. I'm 50:50 on Cheika and Worsley and I think we need a bigger personality than Walder.
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I think we need someone who the players are a bit "scared" of. By that I mean someone who will have the ability to do a hairdryer when needs be. It could be a Steve Diamond or a Rob Baxter type of person. Someone with a presence whom the players also respect whilst "fearing".
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Not sure why Walder is even in the running unless it is just about him joining the coaching team, Blackett has more experience and sucess as a coach.
Hoping a DOR would bring in his own people, Howley/king with Worzle would be a good mix
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My prediction for new Coaching set up:
DoR: Rob Howley
Defence Coach: Joe Worsley
Forwards Coach: Andy Titterrell
Backs coach: Dave Walder
My hopes are an additional forwards coach and Alex King in some capacity.
Does anyone have opinions on Worsley and Walder as coaches? I've only knowledge of the sport from past 5 years, I know Walder was head coach when Newcastle were relegated and that's it...
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Of those touted to be in the frame, I'd be fine with Schmidt or Worsel. I could see Howley working under Dai, but not as DoR. Neither Lancaster, nor o'Shea are right for the club at this time. Blackett will live or die on results over the next few weeks. On yesterday's performance, he's pretty much DOA to my mind. I'm undecided on Cockerill, maybe too long an adversary. Just please all the powers that be, not Cheika. I couldn't live with that.
As for the rest of the coaching set-up, it would be good to have the continuity that Titterall brings, and the connection with the club's history that Kinga or Walder have. That said, LBND has no credentials. I'm always wary of spillover credibility. Great captain and club stalwart, but not as DoR (remember Martin Johnson as England Head Coach).
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Has Laurence any coaching qualifications, let alone experience?
I wonder if the reported Howley situation is tied into his past work with Dai, and now Dai has gone will he want/be wanted to come?
We need to appoint a strong DoR and then allow them to appoint the coaching team they want, not who we want. As far as I am concerned the DoR doesn't need to be a "big" name, just someone who can do the job.
As much as I would like it if Worsely plus King or Walder were to come could they actually work together?
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Cheika or Schmidt.
There is too much at stake to risk anyone else.
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Has Laurence any coaching qualifications, let alone experience?
I wonder if the reported Howley situation is tied into his past work with Dai, and now Dai has gone will he want/be wanted to come?
We need to appoint a strong DoR and then allow them to appoint the coaching team they want, not who we want. As far as I am concerned the DoR doesn't need to be a "big" name, just someone who can do the job.
As much as I would like it if Worsely plus King or Walder were to come could they actually work together?
I read this one the other way round Roger. I suspect DY's departure is linked to Howley being interviewed recently. It's too much of a coincidence in terms of the timing for me. Not sure if Howley will be DoR or a coach but my take is that he'll be arriving in some capacity in a scenario that doesn't involve DY.
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Lets stop mentioning King, he's staying with Brive.
I'm not sure on the worsley link, great player, have no idea of his coaching ability. Think he's had mixed success. Doesn't he live in France ?
Walder as a back coach perhaps but not top man...same for Howley.
I see Toby Booth will be available end of this season, he's a smart intelligent coach, i wouldn't be averse to him.
I'd rather my postman than Chieka..he's a knob and I wouldn't be able to stomach listening to his squeaky whiny post match rants.
On a side, I knew Dai was one of the highest earners but 350k? Thats ludicrous, who decided that was money well spent? Then they offered that for 5 years...head shaker.
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Dean Richards?
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Lol again saying a couple of days for an announcement then giving themselves a few months to get things in place. The announcement will show the change in direction of travel.
Little bits at a time.
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Interesting comment on Fissler's tweety thing. Somebody asked him if there was more to the Worsley bit. He answered that Wasps were interested and he wanted to try the premiership. It's a kind of take from it what you want comment.
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Cheika's post-match interviews would be interesting.
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I would not give a monkeys if he takes us into the top 4 and wins some silverware.
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I don’t think we’re in a position to risk it on an untried DOR.
Yes some old waspies would be a romantic thought. However, looking at it sensibly are any of them really DOR calibre right now? Would rather they prove it elsewhere before we take the risk. Would be nice to have them as coaches but as others have said the new DOR must be allowed to bring in his own team.
I would spend £350k to get a DOR like Schmidt. But if we’re looking to watch funds then as much as Cheika is a marmite individual you have to think he’d inject some much needed fire into the team.
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Not Cheika, please anyone but.
Many seem to be talking about ex Wasps, but most appointments are not ex players of their club in most sports.
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For me employing King or Worsley is very different to someone like Murphy at Leicester or Hooper at Bath. The ex waspies are proven as they have gone away and honed their craft in a tough league in a different culture, Howley is even more proven with his Lions tours although he was part of a fantastic team there.
Hooper and Murphy have been promoted from within straight after playing with no proven credentials other than being club men and talking the talk, backfired also with Nick Kennedy.
King is definitely ready now to step up but would need a very good team around him.
Schmidt would be fantastic but think he might have his eyes set higher than us. Same with cheika, I cannot stand him when he moans about the ref after another poor Aussie performance but I do like his passion and he does not suffer fools, very different style to Dai, could work, think we’re still aiming high.
What’s happened to nick mallet these days, tipped for England a while back. Steve Meehan got bath playing some amazing rugby a while back, think he’s in France now.
Rafa and Edwards would have been my team but they have bigger fish to fry these days.
Can’t help but think we’ll plod along until Howley is available
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I dunno if it's just the Australian connection, but I have the same feelings about Cheika as I would Eddie Jones.
He also seems to love a rugby League convert and is quite happy with players out of position
I chose Schmidt on the poll, but I'm not really convinced
It feels like international and club management is very different, and Schmidt hadn't been involved with a club for a long time.... And even then, it was Leinster which is a very different kettle of fish to us.
I don't know how much of a connection the old Wasps boys really feel with the current club. Not many of them seem to be putting their hands up to assist when we've been struggling for defence or attack.
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If, as seems to be the case, Wasps are skint and money has been an issue in Dais removal (some assumptions here but we won't know until something official is said), why would anyone think that Wasps can afford a top coach & that a top coach would want to come to a club with no money to spend?
All this talk about only accepting world class coaches, I don't think we'll have much of choice! Look how many top class coaches have already turned down offers to work at wasps? What will have changed if Dai goes to make them all start flocking to Coventry begging for a job?
I think we should be adjusting our expectations downward a bit!
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Rob Hoadley is making waves in the US. Coach of the Year 2019 - https://www.majorleague.rugby/news/rob-hoadleys-path-to-mlr-coach-of-the-year/
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Is there also a chance that Wasps wanted a different coaching structure that Dai didn’t want to be a part of?
Think it’s well known that he’s always taken great joy from the coaching part and as DoR with a HC, he wouldn’t get that as much?
Bit like Wenger at my beloved Arsenal not wanting to work with a director of football.
Arteta returning also improves the argument about Worsley or Howley as the former players know the culture but have learnt their craft away from the club.
I think we’ll see Howley with Worsley supporting.
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Agree. I think it's going to be Howley in some shape or form, probably as DoR with a new coach or two under him. Can't see Cheika or Schmidt wanting it. The only other option is an up and coming essentially unknown option but I can't see us taking that risk.
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Rob Hoadley is making waves in the US. Coach of the Year 2019 - https://www.majorleague.rugby/news/rob-hoadleys-path-to-mlr-coach-of-the-year/
Not a bad shout that. Big step up though.
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A bit off the wall ...
If they decide the long term rests with someone like King, Howley or Worsley I'd bring in someone like Schmidt for a year and send the chosen successor off to New Zealand and South Africa for 6 months to work with teams there to get a broader outlook on current coaching and playing strategies. Then when they come back allow them to build their own coaching teams.
Also, how about Gopperth in a coaching role? I don't know if he'd be interested but if he was I'd also invest in him spending time in other countries as part of his coaching apprenticeship.
Of course this relies on them making a long term commitment, a Board with the balls to follow through and patient fans.
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How is Worsley rated as a coach? Apparently he's coached at Bordeaux and Castres? Based on that I'm not too confident...
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How is Worsley rated as a coach? Apparently he's coached at Bordeaux and Castres? Based on that I'm not too confident...
Does anyone actually know if Joe wants to move back to the UK? He's been in France for quite some time now and may be well settled and liking the lifestyle.
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I think we are fishing in the wrong pool when we consider ex-Wasps players. We have a new Chief Executive who will have recommended to the owner that Dai be let go - good HR words. He will have different thoughts and ideas and no subjective memories of Worsley.
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Does anyone actually know if Joe wants to move back to the UK? He's been in France for quite some time now and may be well settled and liking the lifestyle.
One long time wasps supporter who knows Joe & his wife personally has made it very clear that he's very happy in France & has no intention of coming back. he even mentioned when he was doing the punditry for the England France game that he can't think in English any more.
Doesn't mean it won't happen of course, people change their minds, but the "Fantasy DoR" discussion is getting a bit daft IMO.
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But Baldpaul101, someone is going to come in. Why is it wrong for fans to speculate on who. If your point is that talk of Schmidt, Cheika and maybe Worsley is fanciful I agree but it will be someone.
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Shugs, I think its daft because of the names being thrown around, more than happy for everyone to speculate but I can't see it being anyone who's coached at international level.
Playing devils avocado for a minute, why does some have to come in? What happens if Blackett turns the season around and get us to the play offs? Wouldn't it then be a bit harsh to get rid of him?
(to be clear I don't think that's likely to happen, but its probably as likely as some of the other suggestions!)
There's also the possibility that there's no budget for anyone & Blackett gets the job by default....
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Shugs, I think its daft because of the names being thrown around, more than happy for everyone to speculate but I can't see it being anyone who's coached at international level.
Playing devils avocado for a minute, why does some have to come in? What happens if Blackett turns the season around and get us to the play offs? Wouldn't it then be a bit harsh to get rid of him?
(to be clear I don't think that's likely to happen, but its probably as likely as some of the other suggestions!)
There's also the possibility that there's no budget for anyone & Blackett gets the job by default....
Problem is that the structure has to be planned now, rather than at the end of the season.
We need a new DoR, a new head of S&C. I also reckon that there will be other coaching changes as well. Does not happen overnight and will need to be well sorted before the next pre-season kicks off.
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Playing devils avocado for a minute
Are you making a witty pun, BP? Or is it just another peril of auto correct?
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I can't see it being anyone who's coached at international level.
Why not? Irish have Declan Kidney for goodness sake.
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Could be anyone. No-one knows. Have to say baldpaul101 you've made me laugh with the devils avocado!
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How about Stuart Robinson from the Crusaders. He lost out on the All Black job so might fancy a few years up North.
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Why not? Irish have Declan Kidney for goodness sake.
But Irish had money for Kidneys wages & also for buying in a lot of exciting talent.
What can wasps offer? "Come and sign up at Wasps, we've no money for you, or for buying in top players. we've got a decent squad but too many of them spend too much time on the treatment table. Club finances aren't in the best of shape, we're still embroiled in legal nonsense over the stadium sale & don't mention the training facilities!"
I can see a queue of top coaching talent queuing up to join ;D
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Welsh Wasp,
Believe you mean Scott Robertson...
My favourite coach. I'd argue one of the very best coaches in the world.
But he's just signed a new contract with crusaders and we'd have to buy him out. I'd love him but I find it unlikely.
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If Dai is on, as reported £350k a year, with 3 years and 4 months left it's going to cost Wasps £1,166,666.66 to pay out his contract. If we can afford to write off that much money then surely the financial position can't be that bad? If we couldn't afford to sack him, we wouldn't be.
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Why not? Irish have Declan Kidney for goodness sake.
But Irish had money for Kidneys wages & also for buying in a lot of exciting talent.
What can wasps offer? "Come and sign up at Wasps, we've no money for you, or for buying in top players. we've got a decent squad but too many of them spend too much time on the treatment table. Club finances aren't in the best of shape, we're still embroiled in legal nonsense over the stadium sale & don't mention the training facilities!"
I can see a queue of top coaching talent queuing up to join ;D
Or the other side of exactly the same coin.
We have what should be an amazing squad but for some reason isn't firing. Several all blacks, a bunch of internationals, and a stack of players on the cusp. We also have a great academy starting to bring good youngsters through. We have the biggest ground in the Premiership and when things have gone well we've drawn crowds of up to 36k.
We've secured a big training facility and applied for planning permission to make it state of the art, but we can move in as it stands and you an have a big say in how it is set up.
We are only eight points of top four, five off top six.
If you can turn things around it's perfectly feasible to end the season going toe to toe with Exeter in the final again.
What sort of coach wouldn't want to take that on and be the saviour of a club with one of the best pedigrees in the game?
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If Dai is on, as reported £350k a year, with 3 years and 4 months left it's going to cost Wasps £1,166,666.66 to pay out his contract. If we can afford to write off that much money then surely the financial position can't be that bad? If we couldn't afford to sack him, we wouldn't be.
Depends if there was a performance type clause in his contract, perhaps he get's a reduced..who knows, but agree with you, i don't believe there to an issue with finance beyond being prudent.
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Agree VV. I can't see why there aren't a lot of coaches wanting the job. We're basically two wins away from being in great shape.
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Rassie Erasmus was in the country when it all kicked off......
I see that today Lee Blackett and Ben Harris 'followed' Rassie on Twitter.
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Not just Blackett and Harris...
Cormac Ryan - S&C
Ian Costello
Richard Beck - Academy
Andy Titterrell
Jonathan Vermont - analysis
Are all following him, and one of the netballers too.
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Well isn't that interesting.
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So Steven Vaughan wants to bring in Erasmus to sit above Dai.
Dai doesn't really want a DoR above him so the conversation ends with a mutual agreement to go separate ways ?
All relatively amicable, no mass payouts but some compensation, and Thomas Young happy that the club haven't screwed his dad over.
Does that sound plausible?
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Are we seriously even contemplating Erasmus, RWC winner would come to Coventry?
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Are we seriously even contemplating Erasmus, RWC winner would come to Coventry?
Who is to say? He might be mates with any of the Saffas at Wasps. He might just want to get away from the Love Island crew (filming in SA).
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He wouldn’t be the first Saffer to be keen on finding work in the U.K. so that he can make it his long term home. If that’s the objective, then Coventry and Wasps is not too far fetched an idea.
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Rassie to Wasps?
I'm sure he just met some people during his visit few weeks ago.
He's just said he isn't going anywhere in response to England coach rumour, he's never coming here.
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This could easily be a false alarm.
It looks like he only joined Twitter a couple of weeks ago.
Could easily be rugby related People following a world cup winning coach
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^correct answer
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I'll eat a hat of your choice on this one.
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Mr. Jones might become free following the 6-nations :)
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I'd have to find another team to support!!
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I'd have to find another team to support!!
England?
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I would rather watch Sarries with a fez on my head or Chiefs with that ridiculous chant in my ears than Wasps with Jones on board. The club would receive zero pence of my cash if Jones was appointed. On a good day he would be about as popular with fans as a case of genital herpes.
I am not convinced regarding the mooted Erasmus talk. Don't think it would happen, for one, and basing an appointment of a WC win is all well and good, but SA had to beat Italy, Japan, Wales and England in that order. That is it, really. Sure they had a decent year before, but not outstanding. It was not exactly as taxing as the routes taken by previous WC winners, and in any case international coaching is a long way from club coaching.
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I would rather watch Sarries with a fez on my head or Chiefs with that ridiculous chant in my ears than Wasps with Jones on board. The club would receive zero pence of my cash if Jones was appointed. On a good day he would be about as popular with fans as a case of genital herpes.
Glad someone else isn't enamoured with Jones regardless that I hold him responsible for Sam's injury and Wade leaving RU amongst other things.
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Options are looking thin on the ground when we take out those who are unavailable, unaffordable and unlikable.
Still looks like Howley is favourite.
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We don't need to get someone before next season. So we aren't restricted to who is free now. I don't want to finish at the bottom of the table, but if it means we get a better DOR then I'm ok with it.
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Options are looking thin on the ground when we take out those who are unavailable, unaffordable and unlikable.
Still looks like Howley is favourite.
Jones is all three. Still it might be fun seeing Robson play eight and Shields at outside centre. Almost as ludicrous as Daly at full back.
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Well you rotten lot could have let us enjoy the idea of Rassie a little bit longer! Ah well, back to expecting Richard Cockeril.
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Options are looking thin on the ground when we take out those who are unavailable, unaffordable and unlikable.
Still looks like Howley is favourite.
Jones is all three. Still it might be fun seeing Robson play eight and Shields at outside centre. Almost as ludicrous as Daly at full back.
No chance of Jones playing Robson at 8, he'll have been swapped for Ben Youngs.
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I have reservations about Rob as a potential DoR for us. I just feel that he lived in the shadow of Gats for too long. When he did run the Welsh ship, it did not go too well.
Personal choice would be Joe Worsley, with Dave Walder as a part of his team.
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I have reservations about Rob as a potential DoR for us. I just feel that he lived in the shadow of Gats for too long. When he did run the Welsh ship, it did not go too well.
Personal choice would be Joe Worsley, with Dave Walder as a part of his team.
Agree Rob might be a good coach but DoR is, I feel, not something he or we want. Yes Joe and Dave would be great but can't see it unfortunately.
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I feel like this idea of Kinga, Worsley or Ibanez is rather fanciful.
Not only are they likely happy doing what they're doing and living where they're living, but the current Wasps club probably doesn't bear much resemblance to the London Wasps they left behind.
They have the Wasps DNA that we want, but do they feel that the current Wasps club has the same DNA as them?
The answer is that I genuinely don't know, but I suspect that if any of them had a strong desire to be working with us, they'd already be here.
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Of the three you note only Worsley is potentially available so people hope that he might be "the one". I doubt we will hear anything for some considerable time so the rumours will continue until people count themselves out - like King has done.
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Would like to point out Howley was interim head coach of Wales twice, one of those times they won six Nations and the other they came 4th. So mixed results rather than just bad.
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More clarity?
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/wasps-dai-young-next-coach-17775053
Whilst we can't think of many names, apparently there are a lot out there ready to move, now that Dai is officially off.
And, apparently, Wasps had not been looking before this kicked off.
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More clarity?
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/wasps-dai-young-next-coach-17775053
Whilst we can't think of many names, apparently there are a lot out there ready to move, now that Dai is officially off.
And, apparently, Wasps had not been looking before this kicked off.
Just because we weren't looking for a new DOR, doesn't mean we weren't after a new head coach, which in many clubs are one and the same, with Vaughans old club being one of the few that actually separates the roles.
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More clarity?
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/wasps-dai-young-next-coach-17775053
Whilst we can't think of many names, apparently there are a lot out there ready to move, now that Dai is officially off.
And, apparently, Wasps had not been looking before this kicked off.
We were definitely looking at possible Head Coaches.
Just because we weren't looking for a new DOR, doesn't mean we weren't after a new head coach, which in many clubs are one and the same, with Vaughans old club being one of the few that actually separates the roles.
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Reading Vaughan’s interview, it definitely did not sound like the club sacking Dai, sounds much more mutual but still quite sudden.
Think they were having a planning meeting and both parties realised that next season wasn’t possible and Dai leaving now would enable the club to have 6 months of acclimatisation to a post-Dai era.
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Not at all surprised the phone has been hot. We are one of the biggest clubs in English rugby with a hell of a lot going for us. Still not sure what happened but it hardly matters now. Interesting that Vaughan threw in "international" in to the frame. Could literally be anyone.
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Surely if someone was available now it makes sense to get them in now, ahead of next season to discuss signings, contract renewals, coaches and academy graduates and get then have that culture and game plan worked on to hit the ground running for next season. Not just saying we won’t be getting anyone in this season
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Jonny it states that they will appoint to start next year, ie not having to limit the pool of applicant's to those only currently available, leaving a pool of virtually no one. That doesn't mean planning stops.
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I suspect if the right person was available sooner they wouldn't make them wait.
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Surely if someone was available now it makes sense to get them in now, ahead of next season to discuss signings, contract renewals, coaches and academy graduates and get then have that culture and game plan worked on to hit the ground running for next season. Not just saying we won’t be getting anyone in this season
Think it’s also worth saying that signing the contract is different to joining. I’d be happy to wait until the end of the season for the right man as long as the contract is ready and signed now. I know Wilson hurt us after signing a contract but a DoR we should be more staunch in holding onto them.
I’d say someone being employed now is no factor for whether they’d be able to join us for next season.
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Fissler yesterday : https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/domestic-club-rugby-union/35200/wasps-seek-to-rekindle-old-flames-in-search-for-new-dor/
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Jonny it states that they will appoint to start next year, ie not having to limit the pool of applicant's to those only currently available, leaving a pool of virtually no one. That doesn't mean planning stops.
My take on this is that most people are contracted up until the summer elsewhere (at least the really good ones are!). So securing someone to start next season can still kick things off in terms of preparation.... They can provide shortlists of players to target, even talk to said players and sell the 'vision'... be a part of the recruitment process in restructuring the coaching and S&C set-up... Plan pre-season and training structures... etc.
I took that interview as very positive. it sounds like we're going about it exactly the right way.... move swiftly to secure someone in the coming weeks, but also consider all options and include key stakeholders in the decision.
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Fissler yesterday : https://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/domestic-club-rugby-union/35200/wasps-seek-to-rekindle-old-flames-in-search-for-new-dor/
Very typical TRP article, nothing insightful, probably put together by trawling forums (like this one), Twitter and other social media platforms. There is no attribution. Worsley has to make a lifestyle change to come back to Wasps, however he did say this to the Daily Mail in 2016 'Obviously coaching England would be one thing, but Wasps is the club I love and, one day, I want to go back and be part of that,’ he said.'
Personally I think it will be Howley, not necessarily what I would wish to see but that story has been running for some time and he isn't working atm.
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RBB...
Didn't the Howley rumours start because of the supposed strong relationship between him and Dai?
With Dai gone, don't you feel that reduces the strength of the rumour?
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Perhaps, however he is a strong 'on paper' candidate based on what the alleged field looks like. Personally I am not 100% convinced that SV wasn't looking prior to the recent announcements. SV is a CEO who is well aware of the poor on field displays, 13 wins in 46 games is a pretty strong indicator, there is no way that he would not be looking for a Plan B based on that form, if he wasn't then has been seriously over-promoted. Of course he was looking and speaking to people.
Wasps does need a radical overhaul on the playing side, we have had two diabolical seasons and I am not convinced Howley will be the DoR who delivers that.But.....he is proven and safe usually prevails over risky or radical. I just have a feeling that Wasps will go with safe from a DoR point of view with perhaps a more radical head coach.
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Wasps does need a radical overhaul on the playing side, we have had two diabolical seasons and I am not convinced Howley will be the DoR who delivers that.But.....he is proven and safe usually prevails over risky or radical. I just have a feeling that Wasps will go with safe from a DoR point of view with perhaps a more radical head coach.
I’m not convinced the squad needs a radical overhaul tbh. I see a lot of quality in most positions, although light at 12 and could do with some long term quality depth at 10 for next season (maybe another lock as we always have an injury crisis there).
I think the coaching ideas went a little flat/stale. Players weren’t running onto passes, the defence has not improved as much.
I think a new head could revitalise the playing staff and get back to the top 4 with some smart signings in the positions above.
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Wasps does need a radical overhaul on the playing side, we have had two diabolical seasons and I am not convinced Howley will be the DoR who delivers that.But.....he is proven and safe usually prevails over risky or radical. I just have a feeling that Wasps will go with safe from a DoR point of view with perhaps a more radical head coach.
I’m not convinced the squad needs a radical overhaul tbh. I see a lot of quality in most positions, although light at 12 and could do with some long term quality depth at 10 for next season (maybe another lock as we always have an injury crisis there).
I think the coaching ideas went a little flat/stale. Players weren’t running onto passes, the defence has not improved as much.
I think a new head could revitalise the playing staff and get back to the top 4 with some smart signings in the positions above.
I didn't say squad, I said on the playing side - the squad on paper is pretty good, however the way they are playing is bang average at best. Therefore something needs to change in the way they play. That can only changed by a new coaching set up, and new ideas.
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Wasps does need a radical overhaul on the playing side, we have had two diabolical seasons and I am not convinced Howley will be the DoR who delivers that.But.....he is proven and safe usually prevails over risky or radical. I just have a feeling that Wasps will go with safe from a DoR point of view with perhaps a more radical head coach.
I’m not convinced the squad needs a radical overhaul tbh. I see a lot of quality in most positions, although light at 12 and could do with some long term quality depth at 10 for next season (maybe another lock as we always have an injury crisis there).
I think the coaching ideas went a little flat/stale. Players weren’t running onto passes, the defence has not improved as much.
I think a new head could revitalise the playing staff and get back to the top 4 with some smart signings in the positions above.
I didn't say squad, I said on the playing side - the squad on paper is pretty good, however the way they are playing is bang average at best. Therefore something needs to change in the way they play. That can only changed by a new coaching set up, and new ideas.
Apologies, fully agree
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When SV first arrived a former works colleague, who is a Gloucester ST holder sent me an email saying that "He's the sort of guy who's charming to your face -but you wouldn't want shaking your hand unless you could be certain he wasn't holding a knife in the other one".
I imagine he was brought in to shake up the coaching/support side of the business.
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Other than the undeniable privilege of being a pundit on BBC1's coverage of the game today, why is Michael Cheika here in the UK? I know he said (or has already) he is resigning at the end of this season ...
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had expressed an interest. He's either gonna find a club to take on, or give up coaching I'd say. What other options does he have?
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We just turned over and said the same thing. Hearing his grating voice we both said no at the same time!
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We just turned over and said the same thing. Hearing his grating voice we both said no at the same time!
We could do a LOT worse than him. At least his post-match interviews make me laugh.
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But we dont have to do alot worse.