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General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Heathen on June 09, 2020, 03:45:05 PM

Title: CCFC promoted
Post by: Heathen on June 09, 2020, 03:45:05 PM
Will they want to play at the Ricoh?
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Neils on June 09, 2020, 03:53:35 PM
Of course they will so they need to give way on everything for ever. Plus pay us loads for the years of hassle.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on June 09, 2020, 03:58:56 PM
Are the rules different for the Championship? Can they even ground share with another footie club?
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: RogerE on June 09, 2020, 05:54:24 PM
Yes they can, but they MUST have primacy of tenure, and can demand the pitch is not used for other purposes in the previous 48hours to a match.

Also, if they are only allowed to share with one other, non football, team which means that things like the Wasps Men/Ladies double header could be in breach of the EFL regulations.

However I don't think there is any other case where the football club is the tenant.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on June 09, 2020, 06:30:06 PM
That is going to make it hard for them to ground share with us anyway then. New build it is then.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Neils on June 09, 2020, 06:38:07 PM
That is going to make it hard for them to ground share with us anyway then. New build it is then.

You would hope so.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Chilham on June 09, 2020, 07:15:06 PM
Well done to them.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Heathen on June 09, 2020, 08:22:55 PM
I wonder what the situation is down in Bristol?
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: coddy on June 09, 2020, 08:26:59 PM
Congratulations to them, good news for the City and good news for their long suffering fans.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Shugs on June 09, 2020, 09:31:15 PM
Championship makes it a different proposition from Wasps point of view. They could realistically average 15-20k a game with more for the myriad of Midlands derbies. I wouldn't move an inch on the legals but it will have to be looked at in the current austere times.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Hymenoptera on June 09, 2020, 10:21:01 PM
But they wont have primary tenancy..so it's a non starter isn't it?
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Raggs on June 09, 2020, 10:23:03 PM
But they wont have primary tenancy..so it's a non starter isn't it?

We could give them that I believe, but no way could we give them 48 hours before a game.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Trevs Big Tackle on June 09, 2020, 10:37:09 PM
Weren't some EFL rules/regulations relaxed to allow ccfc to play in Birmingham? I'm sure they'd allow a similar relaxation to enable them to move back to Coventry. Especially if it's "only until ccfc build a new stadium"...
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Raggs on June 09, 2020, 11:26:14 PM
With the promotion i wouldn't actually be surprised if something actually did start to happen with a new stadium.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Steve from Cov on June 10, 2020, 07:51:28 AM
With the promotion i wouldn't actually be surprised if something actually did start to happen with a new stadium.

No chance.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Neils on June 10, 2020, 09:44:47 AM
With the promotion i wouldn't actually be surprised if something actually did start to happen with a new stadium.

No chance.

You mean SISU lie?
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Heathen on June 12, 2020, 12:46:31 PM
Looks like their preference is to play at The Ricoh :

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/ricoh-arena-return-city-fisher-18408314
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Neils on June 12, 2020, 12:56:48 PM
Of course they do. Get the cheque book out Fisher!
Interesting that in recent history it has been Bodie making comments but now SISU mouthpiece Fisher raises his head above the parapet.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: welsh wasp on June 12, 2020, 05:34:06 PM
In response to the comment about Bristol, Wasps suffered a season or so ago when our match at Bristol was shifted from Sunday afternoon to Friday evening because City had primacy at Ashton Gate for a cup match. Inconvenient to say the least.
So what's the situation going to be for London Irish when they share with Brentford at that new stadium? The football game having primacy?
And it does sound rather daft to have a new stadium built in Coventry, except for the continued involvement of the current owners.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Neils on June 12, 2020, 05:40:53 PM
It is Brentford's stadium so they have primacy and Irish will have to play to their time. Wasps are the owners so the football club would have to agree to rugby getting primacy - unless Wasps give it away.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: DGP Wasp on June 12, 2020, 11:29:30 PM
Of course, when rugby goes to a summer season from next year, the primacy of tenure thing will be far less of an issue.
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Marlow Nick on June 13, 2020, 06:35:00 AM
Of course, when rugby goes to a summer season from next year, the primacy of tenure thing will be far less of an issue.

Except that summer rugby will actually last about 10 months of the year so there will still be about 8 months of overlap with association football
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: Skippy on June 13, 2020, 08:22:19 PM
Given the number of professional clubs that are at risk of going under — whatever the shape of their balls — matters like Primacy of Tenure begin to seem less important. Hopefully, there are enough pragmatic people around to make sure that sensible ways forward can be found.

Thinking ahead to the prospect of summer rugby, it’s already been noted that the artificial pitches are somewhat miserable to play on in the heat. Perhaps it should be a Premiership requirement for a promoted club to have grass pitch at their ground. The fact that it would make life difficult for some — Estate Agents, for example — has nothing at all to do with my recommendation!
Title: Re: CCFC promoted
Post by: JF on June 14, 2020, 12:56:07 PM
I can see the primacy of tenure rule being scrapped. Fewer larger and better maintained stadia makes sense, especially if pockets are going to be squeezed as a result of both covid and the subsequent imminent economic woes.