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General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: DGP Wasp on May 02, 2021, 07:11:04 AM

Title: TRP
Post by: DGP Wasp on May 02, 2021, 07:11:04 AM
Article linking Wasps with Scarlets' tight head Peter Scholtz as replacement for Brookes.

Described as a big, strong scrummager, so box ticked there. To be honest I don't follow the Pro14 much so can't say I've seen anything of him. I'm sure some on here will know more though.
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Post by: coddy on May 02, 2021, 08:16:50 AM
Can't say I have seen him play but a 27 year old, 120Kg South African could well be what we need if Brookes departs.
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Post by: Chunky24 on May 02, 2021, 08:39:40 AM
TRP also has Tigers as the club that Steve Diamond and the American investors he mentioned in an interview a couple of weeks ago are interested in.
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Post by: NorthYorksWasp on May 02, 2021, 08:59:59 AM
TRP also has Tigers as the club that Steve Diamond and the American investors he mentioned in an interview a couple of weeks ago are interested in.
That would add up as weren’t Tigers up for sale not so long ago (pre COVID) I believe?
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Post by: wasps on May 02, 2021, 09:51:00 AM
TRP also has Tigers as the club that Steve Diamond and the American investors he mentioned in an interview a couple of weeks ago are interested in.
That would add up as weren’t Tigers up for sale not so long ago (pre COVID) I believe?


With the support that Tigers typically get, it's probably a club that could be a good investment if done right.

If there's ideas like we have at the Ricoh with outwards expansion and additional facilities, then it'd come down to what the land around the stadium is used for and who it is owned by
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Post by: Steve from Cov on May 02, 2021, 10:05:40 AM
Can't say I have seen him play but a 27 year old, 120Kg South African could well be what we need if Brookes departs.

+1. Hope he is a good un.

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Post by: JonnyD on May 02, 2021, 11:27:33 AM
Can't say I have seen him play but a 27 year old, 120Kg South African could well be what we need if Brookes departs.

+1. Hope he is a good un.

Has he got any mates that can play second row?
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Post by: Neils on May 02, 2021, 11:44:43 AM
Strange one if true. Signed for them in December 20 (effectively 5 months ago) and played 8 times. Not checked whether as substitute but would think so given their squad. However the Pro 14 couldn't have had many more games since Dec.
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Post by: JonnyD on May 02, 2021, 11:54:29 AM
Strange one if true. Signed for them in December 20 (effectively 5 months ago) and played 8 times. Not checked whether as substitute but would think so given their squad. However the Pro 14 couldn't have had many more games since Dec.

Just saw this when googling him - either he took any deal he could to get out of the mess that was happening at the Southern Kings and signed a short deal or we could be buying him out of his contract.
Going from no wage at the Kings to the Scarlets - could still be a good bit of business if we have to buy him out.

He does the hard yards and JTA then comes on for impact
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Post by: Shugs on May 02, 2021, 12:14:33 PM
Know nothing at all about Scholtz. Looks to have the physique but doesn't have lots of games under his belt.
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Post by: westwaleswasp on May 02, 2021, 02:53:29 PM
Replacing KB is going to be hard. What we need is to keep him and, if anything,  replace JTA, who for all his work in the loose still attracts penalties.
I feel we are going to struggle in the scrum if things go ahead as rumoured. We need a solid scrum to compete at the top end.
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Post by: Horusthewasp on May 02, 2021, 03:37:53 PM
Strange one if true. Signed for them in December 20 (effectively 5 months ago) and played 8 times.

Almost identical situation to Douglas.
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Post by: Shugs on May 02, 2021, 03:46:58 PM
We never know the length of these contracts. Although you'd have to imagine they're longer than a couple of months. As mentioned in another thread on the academy I think that's where our squad gaps are going to be filled from.
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Post by: JonnyD on May 02, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
Someone who knows Scholtz on the Scarlets board has not confirmed he’s off to wasps but that he is leaving the Scarlets despite wanting to stay.
The few fans that have commented would have preferred to keep him and how he was a good squad player - potentially not like for like for Brookes then but could be cheaper and if we just want him to scrum then he could be alright and at 27 probably has his best years ahead of him.

Lots of people wanted a big SA - he’s regularly listed as 20 st on various articles - not sure he’ll be a fan of preseason!

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Post by: Chunky24 on May 03, 2021, 08:35:50 AM
Know nothing at all about Scholtz. Looks to have the physique but doesn't have lots of games under his belt.

Showing his physique and mobility here!

https://m.facebook.com/PRO14Official/videos/2442130979375234/
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Post by: NellyWellyWaspy on May 03, 2021, 09:18:32 AM
Moving around the field in support 5 times faster than Brookes.
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Post by: westwaleswasp on May 03, 2021, 08:19:02 PM
I don't know much about the fella, but I can ask about at work Wed. We have a reasonable connection to the Scarlets, though not what it was - 10 years ago you could not walk into our office without a random Scarlets player popping in for some reason or other. There are some connections still, we sometimes provide players for LLanelli schoolboys, and still get free tickets and have used the barn at Parc Y Scarlets a lot, and  all help maintain a link.
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Post by: MarleyWasp on May 05, 2021, 03:42:09 PM
https://www.dai-sport.com/scarlets-prop-pieter-scholtz-lines-up-wasps-move/

By the sounds of it we've beaten off a number of other clubs for his signature.
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Post by: Steve from Cov on May 05, 2021, 03:45:22 PM
https://www.dai-sport.com/scarlets-prop-pieter-scholtz-lines-up-wasps-move/

By the sounds of it we've beaten off a number of other clubs for his signature.

Excellent - a tight head prop that can shore up the scrum must be top of our wish list.
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Post by: DGP Wasp on May 05, 2021, 03:58:17 PM
He's a big lad!! Gourav's gonna need a bigger saucepan!
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Post by: will311293 on May 05, 2021, 10:09:33 PM
So realistically we have Loosehead, tighthead, second row and hooker signed with 2x second row to come (one front line/one squad) and a 6/8.

That's a good amount of players to come in! I assume that means we will see Simonds/Spink play more next season too with Sops leaving.
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Post by: JonnyD on May 05, 2021, 10:41:10 PM
So realistically we have Loosehead, tighthead, second row and hooker signed with 2x second row to come (one front line/one squad) and a 6/8.

That's a good amount of players to come in! I assume that means we will see Simonds/Spink play more next season too with Sops leaving.

Think that’s how I’m reading it regarding the signings.
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Post by: will311293 on May 05, 2021, 11:32:36 PM
So realistically we have Loosehead, tighthead, second row and hooker signed with 2x second row to come (one front line/one squad) and a 6/8.

That's a good amount of players to come in! I assume that means we will see Simonds/Spink play more next season too with Sops leaving.

Think that’s how I’m reading it regarding the signings.

I'd be happy with that. Strategically smart signings, you would suspect we would start announcing soonish as usually at close out of season clubs generally announce.
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Post by: westwaleswasp on May 06, 2021, 12:10:53 AM
It feels to me as if our scrum has had issues all year when Kieran has not been about. Granted we have not always had a full roster behind him to choose from, but losing our best scrummager to be replaced by another is not going to give us an 80 minute scrum, unless he can reguarly last 80. I don't have the stats breakdown, so I could be wildly wide of the mark, it is just first up memory of this year, where our scrum seems to be more of liability. I would like to have two strong scrummaging THs plus JTA to choose from, for those matches where the opposition have a strong scrum all game. When oppositions are weaker in the scrum then bringing on JTA is ideal for what he offers round the park.  Maybe Alo is the second strong scrummager, we have not seen much of him, but losing  Kieran is unlikely to lead to an upgrade in the scrum, surely?  I know people here point to Kieran around the pitch, but if you conceed just 2 penalties on your own feed in your half that is six points gone. If you add on one on their 5m line there goes the opportunity for 5 or 7.  No amount of work around the pitch is ever going to make up for a creaking scrum, as England have found at times with Mako at LH.
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Post by: Shugs on May 06, 2021, 06:41:27 AM
Agree about the scrum. Millar-Mills is also in that TH mix and probably some academy movement. But I agree numbers alone won't solve it. Scholtz' asset seems to be his scrum and Alo has always done well there but IF Brookes goes that is a big gap to fill.
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Post by: Chunky24 on May 06, 2021, 07:00:25 AM
As well as players there is now a full time scrum coach signed don't forget which you would hope makes a difference.
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Post by: westwaleswasp on May 06, 2021, 01:26:29 PM
Good points.
I did ask around today- apparently Scarlets are well stocked on the youngster front (a bit like us @2), and the original signing was going to be short term due to injury issues. Seems to be rated as decent anyway.
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Post by: Beasties on May 06, 2021, 01:41:41 PM
Tthe Brookes situation worries me a lot. He's not that great around the park but he is a quality scrummager. I've no idea how good the Saffer that we've been linked with is so am extremely nervous if he's the replacement for Brookes. Unknown quantity vs known quality. I was hugely underwhelmed when we signed Alo as his technique was poor before he landed and he was regularly getting handed his arse at Worcs. but I've been pleasantly surprised at his progress since. Obv he's not played for a while and we've had to rely on JTA when we could have dearly done with the Alo option. Obv Alo is a proper unit but I can't see him becoming top quality so we do need a first choice quality scrummager. Too many games have hinged on JTA's scrummaging ability for my liking, as good around the park as he is. It sounds like Nearchou is highly rated but it's far too early yet for him. Schonert would've been ideal but he's already moving.