Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Vespula Vulgaris on February 09, 2019, 10:45:45 AM
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My latest thoughts...
http://onceawasp.com/is-dai-young-the-right-man-to-lead-wasps/
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I agree entirely with all that. Do you tweet your articles? So I could then re-tweet it.
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Spot on Martin.
He does desperately need some help though. Hopefully this summer will see the coaching changes required.
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I agree entirely with all that. Do you tweet your articles? So I could then re-tweet it.
I haven't up to press, but probably should. I am @fromtheplace
I'll go tweet it now.
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Agree totally with your sentiments. I imagine all leaders whatever their sphere go through the wringer at some stage in their respective careers. I have loved watching wasps over the past 4 years and win lose or draw have pretty much enjoyed all the games. The style of rugby has been entertaining and that has to be down to Mr Young. We have struggled this season due I believe to the long term injuries but hopefully having read the latest injury report things will soon turn the corner.
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Spot on Martin.
He does desperately need some help though. Hopefully this summer will see the coaching changes required.
I agree, we need some changes, but if we start to win with the current set-up I won't be calling for anything major. I think there is a lot going on, and we can't simply pin it on one thing.
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Agree totally with your sentiments. I imagine all leaders whatever their sphere go through the wringer at some stage in their respective careers. I have loved watching wasps over the past 4 years and win lose or draw have pretty much enjoyed all the games. The style of rugby has been entertaining and that has to be down to Mr Young. We have struggled this season due I believe to the long term injuries but hopefully having read the latest injury report things will soon turn the corner.
I hope you're right!
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Good article with well made points. We/Dai/Wasps have had a fairly sh1t season to date and I think we all hope it improves. The point has been made about the coaching team and I think Wilson would have been senior enough to have taken some of the flak. One can only hope that appointments are in place for next season but being held back to avoid another Wilson situation.
On another note I see Rob Smith has finally put in words (on DW) his opinion of Dai - I think we all knew this from his various posts but is sad to see.
Onward and (hopefully) upwards.
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Probably like most STH's I received a letter from Wasps this morning. It refers to how they have taken on board feedback from a mid-season survey.
Interesting to see they've set up an email account for supporters to email with suggestions. I wonder how long that will stay active?
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Some may feel that I'm happy to settle for mediocrity, but I personally feel that I'm just happy to be able to watch my team play.... Winning the league and cup competitions is purely the icing on the cake.
I'm a terrible loser, I hated losing when I played, and I wasn't ever particularly happy if I felt we didn't deserve to win either. In some ways that carries over to when I watch Wasps. I hate to see us lose, but it's always tempered by a realisation that I'm still privileged to be able to watch them, whether that be on TV or live.
In the pitch success is not a prerequisite of my support, although I'm certainly happier when we win.
As for the man in charge, I find Dai to be one of the most genuine people in sport. In my fleeting meeting with him he came across as an extremely nice and honest person.
Those are traits that I'd not swap for anything. It may mean that we never win the league or a cup, but I can accept that knowing that we have a good man in charge.
There's a lot being said about Saracens at the moment, and their "win at all costs" approach. It may or may not be true. I don't care.
I'm happy with our "be nice at all costs, and win if you can" approach
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Best thing about Dai is the way he conducts himself in interviews etc. Certainly a refreshing change from some national coaches. No verbal hand grenades, plenty of focus on us and not errors by officials.
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I agree with the article, I think as others have said, all leaders go through darker days and that can be for a variety of reasons, not all within their power to change or influence
Just one example, a fit Robson and Gopperth behind half of the first choice pack would have made Lima's intro much easier and we'd probably have been looking a little better. Another - in a parallel rugby world, Sam Jones wasn't injured and Wade was England first choice right wing...again, things would be a lot rosier at the club.
I don't see any lack of wanting to win from players, I see - least on tv (I can't easily get to games right now) a decent atmosphere between the players, but most of us have been in teams which couldn't buy a win. I remember the hell of taking over a cricket team that (imo) needed some new direction, only to find it took over a third of a season to get our first win and longer before we got the ethos I wanted... in place!
As for Wasps and Dai, I hope we can get some coaching resource to spread the load and perhaps it would be good for contact with fans if we had the odd "narrative" from Wasps about style and overall recruitment aims (say)?
But having followed Wasps since the 70's, at first because they shared colours with by school team, I want to watch ambitious rugby, aimed at winning, but always with the ambition to amaze.
I miss watching Wade still!
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I miss watching Wade still!
You never know. You might catch him with pads and a helmet sometime in the NFL :)
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Just skim read the thread... It is a shame that Rob has decided to say what he has because he has a fair few followers on DW. I also usually look to what he is saying as being a voice of reason ...
Nothing points to our weakness this year more than the results. Dai isn't exposing any hidden weakness and I would say that he will only be opening up because moral in camp is picking up now that the majority of news is out.
People seem to mistake honesty for weakness, what matters is how the club behave off the pitch and perform on it. It shows how much he cares for the club and what a shift he is putting in trying to point things in the right direction, he won't get everything right, nobody does, but I'm sure he'll be putting everything into rebuilding the team.
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Perhaps it is time to bring out the "Live Fast" signs to show our support and appreciation, and the style of Rugby we enjoy.
Can't think of anyone I would rather have in charge.
Not been a great year, but not every year will be. I believe it will get better.
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I miss watching Wade still!
You never know. You might catch him with pads and a helmet sometime in the NFL :)
Well if it doesn't work - I'd hope he come "home"
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I miss watching Wade still!
You never know. You might catch him with pads and a helmet sometime in the NFL :)
Well if it doesn't work - I'd hope he come "home"
I feel like there's some delusion here.
We will never see Wadey again in black and gold
If we do, I'll wear a few and take a pay cut
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Yes he seems to be enjoying himself in the USA. From his postings he is even enjoying his training again.
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In a word, yes. In more than a word, hell yes!
Look it’s easy to simply say “Wasps are having a bad time, out with the DoR” but it is far more nuanced than that, as has been said (plus I don’t believe the football approach of sack mid-season works at all!). Dai has indeed shown incredible loyalty to the club and the club, by sticking withi him as well when things haven’t been quite going our way, have shown that loyalty back. So we’re having a tough season. Doesn’t mean we are a bad team.
We have all sorts going on, but the question over Dai’s leadership is surely answered by our table finishes the last few seasons rather than how we are looking in the middle of the current season! We are still well in the game for a top four finish. I would argue that the departures we have seen are no bad thing in the long run. If they want to go let them, it means we can sign players who want to play for the club and I believe Dai can and will do that where he has the funds!
He can’t control some of the off field issues (SISU, Training ground, players wanting to depart) but how he responds both the rest of this season and indeed next will, to my mind, prove he is well and truly the man to continue to lead our club.
A great article that I think probably stands for the majority of the supporters. As ever it is the minority who are the most vocal (and footballish to my mind!).
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Don't want to sack Dai at all, but as an aside the football club bounce at managerial sackings has been analysed, there is a bounce, generally short term, worth a few points, before results return to what they were, and after a few months the overall effect is negated.
Certainly seems to have worked at Old Trafford, though.
I would still ban mangerial sackings mid season in soccer ⚽ if I could.
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I suppose I cannot comment too much on the topic, as I am still a relatively new fan, but in the past two seasons I have had a positive impression of Dai and will be more than happy to see him stay. To me, in my biased opinion, is that he comes across as one of the few "good guys" that are at the top of their clubs, compared to the likes of Steve Diamond.
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In this discussion I find that people confuse support for respect when weighing up previous conduct/results. I will always respect Dai for the job he did during our relegation battle dark days and the move to Coventry. That does not mean I will have unquestioning support if things go pear shaped.
If it is true that we signed a contract to the 2023 World Cup I doubt we could afford to change things anyway, not that I want to. I agree with others that if things aren't working change the coaches around Dai. It's working wonders for England right now.
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Timeframe is important in the discussion, I dont believe it's sanity to be having this discussion half way through a single season, especially one that has had so many unplanned influences.
There's reaction, over reaction and batshit crazy...I have read them all.
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I suppose I cannot comment too much on the topic, as I am still a relatively new fan, but in the past two seasons I have had a positive impression of Dai and will be more than happy to see him stay. To me, in my biased opinion, is that he comes across as one of the few "good guys" that are at the top of their clubs, compared to the likes of Steve Diamond.
You have as much right to an opinion as anyone else who calls themself a fan!
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I suppose I cannot comment too much on the topic, as I am still a relatively new fan, but in the past two seasons I have had a positive impression of Dai and will be more than happy to see him stay. To me, in my biased opinion, is that he comes across as one of the few "good guys" that are at the top of their clubs, compared to the likes of Steve Diamond.
You have as much right to an opinion as anyone else who calls themself a fan!
I just wont be as valued as mine :o :-X
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I miss watching Wade still!
You never know. You might catch him with pads and a helmet sometime in the NFL :)
Well if it doesn't work - I'd hope he come "home"
I feel like there's some delusion here.
We will never see Wadey again in black and gold
If we do, I'll wear a few and take a pay cut
Delusion no, not really, just wishful thinking - surely I am allowed that!