Always a Wasp
General Category => Wasps Rugby Discussion => Topic started by: Wombles on January 14, 2023, 12:07:13 PM
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Time for us to look forward rather than back! So on this wet old winters day why don’t we name one positive/good/exciting reason each about our return next season. For me….
Games at clubs like London Scottish, Richmond. Not on TV so like the BBC Grandstand/amateur days where you actually go to the games to see it, thus sharing time with oppo fans and families in a smaller more exciting atmosphere.
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Hopefully being able to double up on visiting my FinL in res care home in Solihull and seeing New Wasps. Plus reasons to go down the SW peninsula for a weekend away or going to Jersey for the first time.
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I'm feeling positive about the chance to go to some great away days that weren't possible during our time in the Premiership - thinking Cornwall in particular.
I'm also feeling positive about getting another chance to support our team. You don't know what you've got until it's gone, so I will be making even more of an effort to support our team.
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The fact that we are there at all and have survived.
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I’m really looking forward to some news about players joining us rather than the reverse. I’m also looking forward to really caring about the outcome of a game.
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It is still a very big IF.
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We have only provisional approval from the RFU, so that has to move to definitive. For that to happen, we need finance and a ground.
I suspect they will happen within hours of each other. The ground is likely sorted, so I would wonder why it is taking so long to get the full finance in place? The longer it takes, the less confident I would be. And I am already less than 50% confident.
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We have only provisional approval from the RFU, so that has to move to definitive. For that to happen, we need finance and a ground.
I suspect they will happen within hours of each other. The ground is likely sorted, so I would wonder why it is taking so long to get the full finance in place? The longer it takes, the less confident I would be. And I am already less than 50% confident.
The Christmas/ New Year holiday period could have much to do with it. That and RFU slowness in dealing with this.
If nothing is released by the end of January then I will be worried.
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I really have minimal confidence that we will be back, at the end of January that will be 0
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:) This has cheered me up in a bizarre way. Thread title to post 10 - how to change a direction. Don’t disagree with the sentiments really but I think I’m up at 75% it will happen.
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I take confidence from the facts as we know them.
We have commited, passionate people driving this. Some of them are aslo extremely well connected to the world of business and finance.
OK, nothing is a given, but if this group cannot do it, then nobody can.
I fancy that we we may hear more by the end of this month.
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I am taking no news as good news.
If bad news was coming you would get very good odds that someone would leak if it was bad.
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Never quite understood the 'I've not heard anything so it must be bad news' take on things.
Things may not fully work out but I believe the people put in place are the best people to fix it with real Wasps people, as well as successful business people in charge.
The current perception that everyone needs to know everything is why so much fake news gets distributed.
We have no right to hear everything that is going on, yes we are all fans of the club, and yes we all want to hear what's happening but if they make a statement that says, "still progressing", then everyone will complain that there was no new news, if they don't say anything them everyone says it must be bad. I'm all for leaving it to the owners to actually sort it.
I think there is a lot to be positive about, also with regard to the end of Jan, that is still about 7 months from the start of the season. I think no movement by end of Feb and 6 months from the opening matches is a point where I'll start to worry a bit.
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A few people seem to have missed the thread title!!
In the spirit of being positive, I am looking forward to having a weekend in Jersey watching New Wasps play the reds
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I am looking forward to having a weekend in Jersey watching New Wasps play the reds
This. Loads of new grounds to visit. Jersey? Yes please. Cornish Pirates? Yup, I'll have a bit of that.
Opportunities to meet new people and see new places. Forge new rivalries and make new friends.
#BePositive
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
Ha but you know what will happen - one will be stormy December and the other freezing January
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
Ha but you know what will happen - one will be stormy December and the other freezing January
;D so true
Kids pretty keen on the sleeper train down to Cornwall for the Pirates game
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
Ha but you know what will happen - one will be stormy December and the other freezing January
Winds around the Cherbourg peninsula reached 103 mph last night!!!!
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
Ha but you know what will happen - one will be stormy December and the other freezing January
Winds around the Cherbourg peninsula reached 103 mph last night!!!!
Ah but we won't be in Europe for a few seasons.
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
Ha but you know what will happen - one will be stormy December and the other freezing January
Winds around the Cherbourg peninsula reached 103 mph last night!!!!
Ah but we won't be in Europe for a few seasons.
Look where Jersey is in relation to Cherbourg :)
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a September trip down to Cornish Pirates and a May fixture in Jersey?
Good chance of warm sunny weather, I'd ride down with the Mrs on the Motorbike to Cornwall and take the Vespa on the ferry to Jersey.
It will happen one day folks. 8)
Ha but you know what will happen - one will be stormy December and the other freezing January
Winds around the Cherbourg peninsula reached 103 mph last night!!!!
Ah but we won't be in Europe for a few seasons.
Look where Jersey is in relation to Cherbourg :)
I am fully aware but France is France and European Rugby land!
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Time is marching on.
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No news is good news Neils.
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No news is good news Neils.
Am still on that side of the fence.
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Gutfeel says by end of Feb at the latest. Later than that and plans for next season will be impacted badly.
I still have my positive hat on!
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I fully accept theres a thousand & one things to be working on & sorting out but it would be nice to have some news. Its been a month & half since anything official. As others have said, theres not much time if anything is to be ready for the start of next season...
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It might be that there's likely little to report at the moment other than "situation is the same as before".
I'd imagine the next time we will hear from Wasps will either be:
1) We have secured X stadium to play at.
2) We have assembled a squad of players and coaches.
3) Our first game is on X date, against X, playing at home/away.
This is obviously staying positive!
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With a vote of no confidence in Sweeney and the RFU Council up coming I bet their eyes are on their own finances rather than approving ours - barstewards!
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It might be that there's likely little to report at the moment other than "situation is the same as before".
I'd imagine the next time we will hear from Wasps will either be:
1) We have secured X stadium to play at.
2) We have assembled a squad of players and coaches.
3) Our first game is on X date, against X, playing at home/away.
This is obviously staying positive!
I would think it would be more in line with "We have fully satisfioed the RFU/PRL (do they even still have any say if we are Championship bound?) requirements and will play next season at "X". Maybe announce a Coach at the same time to give confidence.
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It might be that there's likely little to report at the moment other than "situation is the same as before".
I'd imagine the next time we will hear from Wasps will either be:
1) We have secured X stadium to play at.
2) We have assembled a squad of players and coaches.
3) Our first game is on X date, against X, playing at home/away.
This is obviously staying positive!
I would think it would be more in line with "We have fully satisfioed the RFU/PRL (do they even still have any say if we are Championship bound?) requirements and will play next season at "X". Maybe announce a Coach at the same time to give confidence.
Exactly that. Things will be reported when they happen.
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Really hoping for similar positive messages by the end of Feb. Would be very welcome on a personal level and it would provide motivation to plan into next rugby season.
Be brilliant if we're based near Solihull area allowing me to get a lift to see Wasps and to hopefully see some of the guys from here too.
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"Be brilliant if we're based near Solihull area allowing me to get a lift to see Wasps and to hopefully see some of the guys from here too."
We should be looking to hold a Wasps Resurrection Dinner.
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"Be brilliant if we're based near Solihull area allowing me to get a lift to see Wasps and to hopefully see some of the guys from here too."
We should be looking to hold a Wasps Resurrection Dinner.
Sounds good to me!
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"Be brilliant if we're based near Solihull area allowing me to get a lift to see Wasps and to hopefully see some of the guys from here too."
We should be looking to hold a Wasps Resurrection Dinner.
Sounds good to me!
Fingers crossed!
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Are women and wheelchairs allowed in?? :)
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?How do I get rid of that square blue thingy?
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It might be that there's likely little to report at the moment other than "situation is the same as before".
I'd imagine the next time we will hear from Wasps will either be:
1) We have secured X stadium to play at.
2) We have assembled a squad of players and coaches.
3) Our first game is on X date, against X, playing at home/away.
This is obviously staying positive!
So far there has been very little from the rumour mill which could mean a best case scenario that they sare running a very tight ship, worst case that nothing is happening.
Ref your points:
1) Even if we are running a very tight ship, there's to many on the other side of the transaction to keep it quiet for long. Someone will either want to brag to a journalist to show they are in the know, or someone who doesn't want us there will leak to try to get it stopped. This thought does not feel me with much confidence, and I'm usually a glass 3/4 full person.
2) I can't see them signing more than 1 or 2 players before the rumours start going round. Again, someone will want to curry favour with the press or a family member innocently will let it slip. I can see a coach being signed up with much in the way of rumours, but again being open to family members or some other innocent remark.
3) At some point the Championship has to publish next years fixtures, there's that I suppose.
Overall I find the lack of official and unofficial information rather dispiriting.
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"Be brilliant if we're based near Solihull area allowing me to get a lift to see Wasps and to hopefully see some of the guys from here too."
We should be looking to hold a Wasps Resurrection Dinner.
Or a shuffle.
I'll get my own coat.
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"Be brilliant if we're based near Solihull area allowing me to get a lift to see Wasps and to hopefully see some of the guys from here too."
We should be looking to hold a Wasps Resurrection Dinner.
Sounds like an idea. Presumably Burger and Bacon are off the menu. Should we invite Fazlet to the tackling course?
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Well - that is January gone.
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Well - that is January gone.
For me, that was the Last Chance Saloon.
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Well - that is January gone.
For me, that was the Last Chance Saloon.
Agreed, unless they?ve managed to get a lot done under the radar it?s not looking good for next season, if at all.
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I agree it doesn't look great - I'm just going to have blind faith and continue to believe that no news is good news. Blind faith is all I have!
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I'm still predicting end of Feb for news. A lot to do behind the scenes and it's better to say nothing until then.
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Just because nothing has been announced, does'nt mean nothing has been happening, at least lets hope so.
At least a take over has been agreed & has taken place, better than Warriors at the moment.
Trying to be patient, but its hard!
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it's better to say nothing until then.
I really disagree with this. If a new Wasps is going to have any chance of surviving then they absolutely need to keep the fans on side. I guarantee that thousands of people who would have followed the team in December are now disheartened enough that they've moved away. A little communication goes a very long way.
The longer they leave it to bother engaging with us, the fewer of us there will be to engage with.
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it's better to say nothing until then.
I really disagree with this. If a new Wasps is going to have any chance of surviving then they absolutely need to keep the fans on side. I guarantee that thousands of people who would have followed the team in December are now disheartened enough that they've moved away. A little communication goes a very long way.
The longer they leave it to bother engaging with us, the fewer of us there will be to engage with.
ND claues preventing anything being said? Not wanting to negotiate under press scrutiny??
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it's better to say nothing until then.
I really disagree with this. If a new Wasps is going to have any chance of surviving then they absolutely need to keep the fans on side. I guarantee that thousands of people who would have followed the team in December are now disheartened enough that they've moved away. A little communication goes a very long way.
The longer they leave it to bother engaging with us, the fewer of us there will be to engage with.
ND claues preventing anything being said? Not wanting to negotiate under press scrutiny??
Quite likely.
However a simple we are moving in the right direction guys more news to come. This wouldn't go amiss.
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According to Rugby Pass we have until 14th February to get over the line. Gulp
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rfu-statement-championship-deadline-set-for-wasps-and-worcester/
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According to Rugby Pass we have until 14th February to get over the line. Gulp
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rfu-statement-championship-deadline-set-for-wasps-and-worcester/
Thanks for posting. I knew that WW had until that date but makes sense for us to be similar. Count down the days!!
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Also that suggests that the RFU are not yet satisfied or had anything acceptable presented.
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Worcester Warriors: Atlas appointed new owners of former Premiership club - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/64487553
Mentions Wasps as well.
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?In the case of Wasps, the RFU board conditionally approved the takeover, but not all the conditions set have yet been met, including the lodging of a bond and the signing of an agreement which commits the new club to the relevant conditions. Both would need to be done by the deadline for the approval to remain in place.
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Wasps also have to find a ground. Whilst there have been rumours, nothing has been confirmed. Wasps' new owners were at least approved fit and proper, whereas WW's US owners/backers were not, and are still not. For Warriors, getting that approval of the US backers is the problem.
For us, we actually need some backers with real money. The provision of a ground is not, as far as I can see, part of the deal.
Warriors says they are not committed to elite rugby (ie Prem or Championship), but that they want to play rugby. Rugby League anyone?
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Well I have found a ground it's a bit out of the way.......
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131224838#/?channel=COM_BUY
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Well I have found a ground it's a bit out of the way.......
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131224838#/?channel=COM_BUY
The view on the WW board is it had to be placed there by the Administrator BUT as another has found it was put on Rightmove only three days ago. Very Strange.
The other string on their board is the new owners could be planning to bring Wasps in. Can't see it. Paranoid.
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The RFU deadline gives clarity in terms of a timescale but the reality is it makes no difference. If we aren?t sorted by 12th Feb then it probably isn?t happening anyway. Personally I think it will happen but there are obviously some criteria still to hit. At least we have a date when we?ll know.
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Well I have found a ground it's a bit out of the way.......
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/131224838#/?channel=COM_BUY
The view on the WW board is it had to be placed there by the Administrator BUT as another has found it was put on Rightmove only three days ago. Very Strange.
The other string on their board is the new owners could be planning to bring Wasps in. Can't see it. Paranoid.
The sales agent (Eddisons) is owned by Begbies, the administrator. Nuff said.
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The RFU deadline gives clarity in terms of a timescale but the reality is it makes no difference. If we aren?t sorted by 12th Feb then it probably isn?t happening anyway. Personally I think it will happen but there are obviously some criteria still to hit. At least we have a date when we?ll know.
I still hold to the view that if we hadn't got a squad sorted by the end of January, then we are highly unlikely to get a competitive squad ready for next season. But ... has anybody checked whether a Phoenix club, that has been granted permission to enter the Championship, has to do so the season after they became insolvent? I mean, let us say another club goes under in March. There would be no hope whatsoever that they could be ready by September. I am beginning to suspect that 23/24 will not be possible, but is 24/25 be allowed, and by then just how many fans will have walked away for good?
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Not long to wait now.
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Well one week down and one week to go.
Nice to see this site is peaceful - or is that we think the worst and dare not voice it. At least we ate nor having the feeding frenzy of the WW board.
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I get the feeling the words Oh bugger! Will be said in the next week or two.
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I don't want to sound like an entitled fan demanding to know all the details on complex negotiations but Wasps new owners need to start speaking to their fans as realistically, the fans are the only link back to the original club.
Even bad news is better than new news right now.
Warriors don't have new owners yet, but when they do, they will have the same issue!
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Kenny Logan wants you to come out with your feet or sponsorship to support the team - somewhere in the midlands.
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Only too happy to oblige if possible.
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Other half just spotted on twatter a rumour that Wasps have a 5 year agreement with Sixways new owners. I hope this isn't right for a number of reasons - mainly as it buggers up WW, personally a pig to get to and why go somewhere else where there is going to be animosity.
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Geographically and personally Sixways would be incredibly wonderful for us, but ............ I can't see that working in a month of Sundays. So many reasons against it - too many to count. April 1st coming early methinks.
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As has been mentioned elsewhere I cannot see the RFU agreeing to Wasps moving onto another pro teams patch.
Unless of course they no intention of sanctioning Warriors return to play because of unsuitable new owners....
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As has been mentioned elsewhere I cannot see the RFU agreeing to Wasps moving onto another pro teams patch.
Unless of course they no intention of sanctioning Warriors return to play because of unsuitable new owners....
Your last point appears to be gaining ground
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I hope the rumour about Sixways is just that - a rumour.
Whilst it would be good for our club, we will find ourselves getting a very frosty reception to us moving into Sixways should WW not return. There is also the case that Worcester RFC are quite literally across the road, so a foreign club coming in may upset a few people as well.
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If Wasps moved into Sixways it would be a repeat of moving into the Ricoh and into Coventry, with a repeat ''welcome'' that would make the welcome from Skyblues pale into insignificance. And justifiably so imo. Also it would be ''dead men's shoes'' if Wuss didn't survive (God forbid) And I wouldn't blame any of those reactions.
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If Wasps moved into Sixways it would be a repeat of moving into the Ricoh and into Coventry, with a repeat ''welcome'' that would make the welcome from Skyblues pale into insignificance. And justifiably so imo. Also it would be ''dead men's shoes'' if Wuss didn't survive (God forbid) And I wouldn't blame any of those reactions.
+1
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Just on BBC:
Worcester Warriors have withdrawn their proposal to play in the Championship next season and will rebrand the club as Sixways Rugby, says owners Atlas.
Warriors had been given until 14 February to meet Rugby Football Union criteria to play in the second tier.
But Jim O'Toole, who led the Atlas takeover alongside James Sandford, said they have pulled out of talks.
"There were a number of key clauses in the contract that we couldn't sign," said O'Toole.
He told BBC Hereford & Worcestershire: "This decision will clearly upset and annoy a number of people.
"The sad fact of life is that the Worcester Warriors brand and the Worcester Warriors business is gone.
"The name sadly will disappear. We are rebranding as Sixways Rugby."
The new club will instead partner with fourth-tier side Stourbridge, who ex-Warriors chief executive O'Toole says will play at Sixways for the rest of the season.
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Just on BBC:
Worcester Warriors have withdrawn their proposal to play in the Championship next season and will rebrand the club as Sixways Rugby, says owners Atlas.
Warriors had been given until 14 February to meet Rugby Football Union criteria to play in the second tier.
But Jim O'Toole, who led the Atlas takeover alongside James Sandford, said they have pulled out of talks.
"There were a number of key clauses in the contract that we couldn't sign," said O'Toole.
He told BBC Hereford & Worcestershire: "This decision will clearly upset and annoy a number of people.
"The sad fact of life is that the Worcester Warriors brand and the Worcester Warriors business is gone.
"The name sadly will disappear. We are rebranding as Sixways Rugby."
The new club will instead partner with fourth-tier side Stourbridge, who ex-Warriors chief executive O'Toole says will play at Sixways for the rest of the season.
I'll post my thoughts on this on the dedicated thread.
But, with WW coming out with this news in good time before the deadline, it does give me an inkling of hope that something good is going on in the background at Wasps (I might be alone in this thought and that's perfectly OK!)
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Interesting. even with Warriors going, I can't see the RFU or Wasps new owners thinking moving into Sixways would be a good idea, for the reasons discussed above.
Can't see either Stourbridge RFC or the Womens Warriors team getting much of a crowd so the atmosphere & cashflow arent going to be great....
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Just on BBC:
Worcester Warriors have withdrawn their proposal to play in the Championship next season and will rebrand the club as Sixways Rugby, says owners Atlas.
Warriors had been given until 14 February to meet Rugby Football Union criteria to play in the second tier.
But Jim O'Toole, who led the Atlas takeover alongside James Sandford, said they have pulled out of talks.
"There were a number of key clauses in the contract that we couldn't sign," said O'Toole.
He told BBC Hereford & Worcestershire: "This decision will clearly upset and annoy a number of people.
"The sad fact of life is that the Worcester Warriors brand and the Worcester Warriors business is gone.
"The name sadly will disappear. We are rebranding as Sixways Rugby."
The new club will instead partner with fourth-tier side Stourbridge, who ex-Warriors chief executive O'Toole says will play at Sixways for the rest of the season.
I'll post my thoughts on this on the dedicated thread.
But, with WW coming out with this news in good time before the deadline, it does give me an inkling of hope that something good is going on in the background at Wasps (I might be alone in this thought and that's perfectly OK!)
I take a little hope (effectively two and a half working days) from the Logan interview. That suggests things are still being done.
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OT - but my Footy club just offered me Season Tickets for 23/24.
We need to get moving :) :)
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Yes, time flies doesn?t it. When you start thinking ticket sales you realise how total our lack of infrastructure is. It?s possible we may rely entirely on pre match sales and walk up.
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I did predict end of this month for an announcement. I still think that it is achievable.
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I did predict end of this month for an announcement. I still think that it is achievable.
It should have been the middle of this week but I think the Atlas shenanigans on Saturday may have changed things a tad.
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I did predict end of this month for an announcement. I still think that it is achievable.
It should have been the middle of this week but I think the Atlas shenanigans on Saturday may have changed things a tad.
It certainly can't have helped. Given the way that the new Wasps owners have been approaching this I'm sure they would want to make any announcement on their terms, with their timings and with statements signed off by all stakeholders eg suppliers, ground owners, anyone sharing facilities etc.
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Tenuous I think but Scrivs had a working breakfast with Diamond at Caldy RFC yesterday. Coincidence or what?
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Tenuous I think but Scrivs had a working breakfast with Diamond at Caldy RFC yesterday. Coincidence or what?
So whats your theory Neils?
Wasp Legends to buy Warriors then sell on to Diamonds consortium but with a deal to play matches at Caldy?
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Tenuous I think but Scrivs had a working breakfast with Diamond at Caldy RFC yesterday. Coincidence or what?
So whats your theory Neils?
Wasp Legends to buy Warriors then sell on to Diamonds consortium but with a deal to play matches at Caldy?
No theories just waiting.
Really hope we are not involved with Atlas and if we have to then only a pitch loan! Caldy suggestion is plain stupid sorry. To bloody far for most to travel.
The fact that one of our new board and the old WW DoR met is probably coincidence but worth noting and would have been nice to be a fly on the wall because the situation must have been talked about privately.
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Dimes as DOR for New Wasps!!!!!
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Tenuous I think but Scrivs had a working breakfast with Diamond at Caldy RFC yesterday. Coincidence or what?
So whats your theory Neils?
Wasp Legends to buy Warriors then sell on to Diamonds consortium but with a deal to play matches at Caldy?
No theories just waiting.
Really hope we are not involved with Atlas and if we have to then only a pitch loan! Caldy suggestion is plain stupid sorry. To bloody far for most to travel.
The fact that one of our new board and the old WW DoR met is probably coincidence but worth noting and would have been nice to be a fly on the wall because the situation must have been talked about privately.
It wasn't a private breakfast meeting, Dimes was guest speaker at the clubs business breakfast.
https://twitter.com/peter_scrivener/status/1628711368613404673?t=lv93uQkoHXjhSFOM2jDtEA&s=19
Peter Scrivener tweets about Caldy quite often, he lists his twitter locations as London and the Wirral.
https://twitter.com/peter_scrivener/status/1627018188247506944?t=5DAm6jciEitdF5PtXRrWxg&s=19
Although without random transfer rumours to create at the moment we take anything to fill the void as you say!
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I wasn't being entirely serious :)
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If you read - I said a working breakfast!
My second comment was that it would be unusual not to have had a private discussion between two people involved in the debacle.
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I wasn't being entirely serious :)
I know.
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I wish I could be as patient as some of you posters!
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I wish I could be as patient as some of you posters!
No nails left
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Well, as long as it's the 'nails' and not the 'Neils' that have gone we'll survive. Heads towards door.
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I have got to the point where I don't have much positivity left !
I know stuff may be going on behind the scenes but I can't see how Wasps can have a team in place to start playing games in September (I assume the 23-24 season will start then?)
Hope I am wrong but just can't see Wasps playing anywhere next season :(
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I have got to the point where I don't have much positivity left !
I know stuff may be going on behind the scenes but I can't see how Wasps can have a team in place to start playing games in September (I assume the 23-24 season will start then?)
Hope I am wrong but just can't see Wasps playing anywhere next season :(
Anyone any idea how the WC impacts on the Championship start date?
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Personally I reckon our Coach and most of the squad are already in place. In Logan?s interview a few weeks back he said he/they were inundated with calls from agents and players.
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Personally I reckon our Coach and most of the squad are already in place. In Logans interview a few weeks back he said he/they were inundated with calls from agents and players.
he did but unless theres a hell of a lot of other stuff in place we dont know about (which is entirely possible) who in their right mind would sign up to club in Wasps position?
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Personally I reckon our Coach and most of the squad are already in place. In Logans interview a few weeks back he said he/they were inundated with calls from agents and players.
he did but unless theres a hell of a lot of other stuff in place we dont know about (which is entirely possible) who in their right mind would sign up to club in Wasps position?
As I said a while back as a player IF there is a coach, a Training Base and guaranteed pay you will sign up in the current climate (of large player numbers being released). A lack of playing surface is left to the bosses. For all we know if there are staff signed up they may be party to what is going on - but I wouldn't bet on it after the last time.
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Also we do not know if the proposal is for a Pro or Semi-Pro team.
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IF there is a coach, a Training Base and guaranteed pay you will sign up in the current climate (of large player numbers being released)
The most important word in that sentence is "IF"
With what we know so far (acknowledging there may be a lot we don't know) not sure how New Wasps could be guaranteeing pay....
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IF there is a coach, a Training Base and guaranteed pay you will sign up in the current climate (of large player numbers being released)
The most important word in that sentence is "IF"
With what we know so far (acknowledging there may be a lot we don't know) not sure how New Wasps could be guaranteeing pay....
Exactly Paul, this is what WE know. We aren't being given much info at the moment and for me that's OK for the time being. There could be a very big delta between what we know/think is going on and what is actually happening. For balance, that could be in either direction (we could be less advanced in progress than we as fans think but we could also be far more advanced in progress too).
You only have to look at Atlas to see what happens when you say things in the media that turn out to be untrue or you allow things to be leaked onto social media. I think Wasps are trying to avoid that.
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You only have to look at Atlas to see what happens when you say things in the media that turn out to be untrue or you allow things to be leaked onto social media. I think Wasps are trying to avoid that.
Don't disagree but theres a balance to be struck. Some re-assuring noises would be nice about now !
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You only have to look at Atlas to see what happens when you say things in the media that turn out to be untrue or you allow things to be leaked onto social media. I think Wasps are trying to avoid that.
Don't disagree but theres a balance to be struck. Some re-assuring noises would be nice about now !
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Personally I reckon our Coach and most of the squad are already in place. In Logans interview a few weeks back he said he/they were inundated with calls from agents and players.
he did but unless theres a hell of a lot of other stuff in place we dont know about (which is entirely possible) who in their right mind would sign up to club in Wasps position?
There are still a lot of out of work rugby pros. Anything might have an attraction rather than nothing.
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There will also be a number of ex-Wasps/Worcester players who have signed short term contracts with other clubs, for substantially less than their previous contracts. Moving back to the region may be close to their home etc etc.
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Time for Positivity - is it waning?
Personally think the outpouring from Atlas over a week ago put a significant stop /delay to our processes. Kind of suggests we were advancing in talks with them and their true stature became more obvious. In two days time it is March and for me that is close to crossing a significant threshold to keep our family interested. Here is hoping - very soon!
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Hang in there neils! Does feel like the shambles at Wuss has caught us in its web a bit. Maybe time to declare for Solihull and move on?
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Time for Positivity - is it waning?
Personally think the outpouring from Atlas over a week ago put a significant stop /delay to our processes. Kind of suggests we were advancing in talks with them and their true stature became more obvious. In two days time it is March and for me that is close to crossing a significant threshold to keep our family interested. Here is hoping - very soon!
My positivity hasn't waned. I still feel as positive about Wasps coming back as before but it's difficult to deny that Atlas have certainly put a huge spanner in the works. The golden question, in my opinion, isn't "if" but "when". Yes, things are far from certain (I accept that the "when" could very well influence the "if"), but we are much further down the road than Worcester are and with a lot less controversy.
I certainly don't feel delusional, but it feels easier to be positive about Wasps coming back as my mindset is still with Wasps being gone. If all of this falls flat, nothing will have materially changed since we went bust.
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Hang in there neils! Does feel like the shambles at Wuss has caught us in its web a bit. Maybe time to declare for Solihull and move on?
That I agree with.
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Plus 1. Wasps is fortunate in having the Legends working on our behalf. They are professional, intelligent, and the opposite of Atlas. If anyone can sort out this mess they can. If they have to keep schtum it must be for a good reason. But please God - can we know soon.
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Plus 1. Wasps is fortunate in having the Legends working on our behalf. They are professional, intelligent, and the opposite of Atlas. If anyone can sort out this mess they can. If they have to keep schtum it must be for a good reason. But please God - can we know soon.
:) :) :)
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There will also be a number of ex-Wasps/Worcester players who have signed short term contracts with other clubs, for substantially less than their previous contracts. Moving back to the region may be close to their home etc etc.
And Welsh players too by the sounds of things. Along with some of the premiership squad players who will inevitably be dropped to balance the books.
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No news is good news, so the saying goes.
It's all *very* quiet though... something to stir the soul would be good!
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Is there actually a date when you have to declare a squad for the upcoming season? I know everyone keeps saying it takes time to sort these things out but when does it become too late to be ready for next season
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OT-ish. Oh Kenny.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/bbc-star-and-her-husband-were-paid-more-than-500-000-to-promote-major-tax-avoidance-scheme/ar-AA1800Qb?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=014a4eea88104e39ad04c8c5fdaa787e&ei=46
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Nothing wrong with that, you show me someone who would pay more tax than they needed to and i'll show you a liar.
Extremely rich coming from The Daily Mail, the same Daily Mail whose Billionaire owner claimed non-dom status in order to avoid paying tax on his stately home
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Meanwhile at Worcester.........https://youtu.be/kfLrox__JPs
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Meanwhile at Worcester.........https://youtu.be/kfLrox__JPs
Yes the Worcester board were waiting for this. Thankfully most verbals concerning Wasps have been disappeared!
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Crikey. What a pile of crud.
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Crikey. What a pile of crud.
Same feeling on the WW board.
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This one slipped through unnoticed - the was a fans forum at Solihull , I think held after the Atlas one, where they were told, I think by their manager, that talks with Wasps were ongoing.
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They must feel a bit like the second choice candidate from a round of interviews.
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They must feel a bit like the second choice candidate from a round of interviews.
The injection of possible money will be better received there than a well publicised elsewhere.
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Interesting attendee with Pudsey at Henley today???.Ashley Johnson????
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Interesting attendee with Pudsey at Henley today???.Ashley Johnson????
Getting a team together.
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https://twitter.com/badge_badger/status/1632055550950141954
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https://twitter.com/badge_badger/status/1632055550950141954
Interesting comment in that thread:
"Any room for a temporary stand or two there "
I can't see it happening, there'd have been planning applications and the like which need to have been publicised at the ground and would have been seen seen, but a nice dream to have.
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For us non-locals - where?
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For us non-locals - where?
Henley in Arden
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Thought so but was confused by the Stratford on Avon Golf Course Assistant Groundman reference
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Thought so but was confused by the Stratford on Avon Golf Course Assistant Groundman reference
Pudsey is getting ground keeping lessons from him.
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P.s. Ashley is coaching the midlands central academy (Wasps academy) they are training at the epic.
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Pudsey just tweeted the old Wasps badge.
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With a broken heart emogithingy
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Five months since it happened. I think it?s a look back rather than any future indicator.
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Five months since it happened. I think it?s a look back rather than any future indicator.
My thoughts as well.
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Five months since it happened. I think it?s a look back rather than any future indicator.
Could be that it has all fallen apart.
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... or that he regrets the change of logos?
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Positivity: Nic Berry, late of this Parish, is reffing France v Wales. Well done that ex-Wasp.
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As we approach the end of march we are still to hear anything. Anyone still feeling positive?
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Anyone still feeling positive?
Personally, no, but I have never been!!
At least we haven't had news that Wasps won't be playing in the champ next season...
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Personally yes but mainly because I am sitting in lovely sunshine in a streetside cafe in Barcelona.
In the Olympic Park yesterday we saw a full rugby pitch set out posts and all.
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Otherwise no - will be renewing my Edinburgh ST.
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A lot less than I was.
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Until we have definite news to the contrary, I am still hopeful😟😟😟
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Until we have definite news to the contrary, I am still hopeful😟😟😟
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No news is good news. Usually.
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As we approach the end of march we are still to hear anything. Anyone still feeling positive?
Nothing, as such, to be negative about. I still support the view that as nothing negative has arisen, then we should still hold hope for a positive outcome.
I imagine anything that has been concluded, is very closely wrapped up with NDAs and confidentaility clauses.
That said, the clock is ticking fast and come April 1, there are only 6 months until the start of the Championship season.
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I'm still positive until I hear any confirmed news to make me change my mind.
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Anyone still feeling positive?
Personally, no, but I have never been!!
At least we haven't had news that Wasps won't be playing in the champ next season...
Me too!
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Still positive, still think it will happen and still think we?re entangled in the mess at Worcester which has put the brake on any news.
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Hope to God you're right, Shugs.
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Hope to God you're right, Shugs.
Think he is. Atlas confused things big time.
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Like others, still taking the view that nothing negative has come out so still hopeful. We'd have heard something by now if things weren't going to happen (either official or leaked), particularly with the heightened interest of Worcs and us coming back.
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Well next week would be apt - with April Fools Day upon us.
Come on Wasps tell us one way or the other!!!!
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https://twitter.com/Lance_Bradley_/status/1639037166713184257?t=rv36MEUyQ4pjo3ZxKDeipA&s=08
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Whose ground is in the backdrop. It it Gloucester?
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Whose ground is in the backdrop. It it Gloucester?
He is the Donkey's CEO.
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The hoarding behind them - James Timms - refers to a transport firm based in Gloucester.
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Whose ground is in the backdrop. It it Gloucester?
That is the north east corner of the Glaws ground behind them.
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Surely we're not going into ground-sharing with Glaws?????????
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Interesting. If nothing else it implies an announcement soon - obviously with Bradley being Glaws CEO it might not be Wasps based. Who knows.
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Small comment on Shedweb that Wasps were all over their ground last week. Whether true or not remains to be seen.
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Small comment on Shedweb that Wasps were all over their ground last week. Whether true or not remains to be seen.
Surely the comment to which you are referring was actually "Wasps had a good look around Sixways this last week".
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Small comment on Shedweb that Wasps were all over their ground last week. Whether true or not remains to be seen.
Surely the comment to which you are referring was actually "Wasps had a good look around Sixways this last week".
Oops
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But when someone says:
Wasps had a good look around...
Who actually constitutes Wasps at this moment in time? Some of the Legends? Pudsey? Holland? A.N. Other ?
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But when someone says:
Wasps had a good look around...
Who actually constitutes Wasps at this moment in time? Some of the Legends? Pudsey? Holland? A.N. Other ?
As you know Holland owns the name and EPIC. Some of the Legends are on the "Board" Inc Logan (who seems to be the focal point for Agents and players to contact) with probable Vickery. Andy Scott seems to be head honcho from the Legends Organisation. As was originally circulated the "Board" contains very high power City persons whose names I would have to look up.
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my point more was who, from a Wasps perspective, would be looking over Sixways, as described. Can see the "very high power City persons" doing that :)
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I wonder if the ''Jack Willis Sauna'' sign is still in place.
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I wonder if the ''Jack Willis Sauna'' sign is still in place.
Too costly to replace methinks.
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my point more was who, from a Wasps perspective, would be looking over Sixways, as described. Can see the "very high power City persons" doing that :)
Ah ok - well it looks as if it was former rugby playing members in the area. However I wouldn't allow them to move without a financial wallah.
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Thanks Neils. I had got the impression (probably wrongly!) that it wasn't etched into the glass but neatly done with sticky-on glass effect sticky-plastic. You're much more likely to be right.
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Its etched, phot here:
https://twitter.com/waspsrugbylive/status/1430165824946556935?s=20
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Thank you BiND. Yes, my bad as per! :) Too right Neils - it's there for ever.
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Thank you BiND. Yes, my bad as per! :) Too right Neils - it's there for ever.
Sadly I can remember touching it and thinking expensive!
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I didn't get to go upstairs as the lift was having a hissy fit, and neither I nor my wheelie are good on stairs! The family took oodles of photos but the Sauna sign photo wasn't clear enough to see what the material was.
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Simple piece of film to look like acid etched glass with the name laser cut. Simple glass manifestation.
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Don?t think we should sweat this one.
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OK just a snippet but in a Stephen Jones Times article at the end there are two paragraphs saying that Wasps owners are confident of a start at Sixways next season. Plus seems a documentary team have been covering progress if I got it right. Paywall makes it difficult so if anyone .......
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For those with access it is on Skulls Wasps Facebook which is not open access.
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Domestic game?s rulers have woken up at last ? renewal is in the air
Stephen Jones
This is a ludicrous time to start hailing a revival ? but I am going to do so anyway. It will seem to many that professional rugby in England is close to rock bottom, with collapsed clubs and poor international results. Last week the trickle of elite players leaving to play their club rugby outside England ? and therefore withdrawing from contention to play for their country ? was in danger of becoming a flood.
Luke Cowan-Dickie, Joe Marchant, David Ribbans, Sam Simmonds and Jack Nowell have all committed to French teams. Anthony Watson is examining Castres, Courtney Lawes has spoken about a foreign contract, and Jack Willis has decided to re-sign with Toulouse. Frighteningly, it seemed last week that Maro Itoje was leaving too, although friends told us that he was merely expressing his own frustration at the sight of decamping friends.
But with the club salary cap in the Gallagher Premiership reduced from ?6.4 million to ?5 million, English rugby?s contract market is weak and cash-strapped ? and the horrible effects of Covid are still afflicting it.
Understandably, Steve Borthwick, the England head coach, is desperate for his men to stay. He has called for the RFU to lift the ban on players who go abroad.
But the RFU and Premiership Rugby (PR) appear to be immoveable. As the RFU said on Friday: ?It is important to all rugby stakeholders to have the best English talent playing in England.? But not for England? The downfall of Wasps and of Worcester Warriors, ejected from the Gallagher Premiership, meanwhile, has been agonising.
So with that little lot to depress our souls you may be surprised by a view that the upturn is beginning. But it is. After today?s La Rochelle vs Saracens Heineken Champions Cup quarter-final, the whole of the Premiership will be basking in an unashamed luxury. And a rare one ? every fit player will be available.
Looking at the remaining matches in a league that can still thrill you to bits, the chances are that, after a compelling battle, the top four will be Saracens, Sale Sharks, Leicester Tigers and London Irish ? that observation alone is, no doubt, enough for the chasing teams to gatecrash. But at the moment the semi-finals will be Saracens vs Irish and Sale vs Leicester, and any combination could still serve up one of the grandest of grand finals staged.
And just look who has woken up. For years, PR has made Rip Van Winkle look like an insomniac. But all of a sudden, it has kicked out the old and driven in the new. From now on, the valiant group of club owners who tended to grumpily refuse anything not directly and immediately beneficial to themselves have voted away some of their own powers, and good for them.
The PR and the tournament itself will now be run by a Sporting Commission, the kind of multi-talented body with independent members for which rugby has been crying out at all levels for decades. The body will be in charge of minimum standards, standard player contracts, player loading (the total stressors and demands on players in training and matches), season structure, salary-cap negotiations and Premiership regulations.
It includes: Simon Massie-Taylor, the newest chief executive, who has impressed; Phil Winstanley, the old warrior prop; then there are three independent members who are now being sought, plus one distinguished former player. So PR will no longer be sitting in judgment on itself as judge and jury and prison warder. The independents will help it clean out of sight.
Furthermore, the idea that the top players will be on central contracts has also been dismissed from within PR this week. Good. Given the RFU?s track record in running professional rugby, the idea that it would be out there employing the latest talent and sifting it would be hilariously funny if it were not so horrible.
But there will also be far stricter supervision, and independent supervision, of the financial standings of all the clubs.
There is progress too on the vexed question of promotion and relegation, which has been in abeyance. From the end of next season, the bottom team in the Premiership will have to play the top team in the Championship to stay up.
There was a time when the club pushing for promotion would have to reveal, from out of thin air, a stadium that could hold 12,000 people. The promoted club will now only have to accommodate 5,000 spectators at first, and 10,001 thereafter. Much more fair.
How many teams will there be in the Premiership? At the moment PR says this is up for grabs. There are 11 this season, but there is a move inside PR to reduce that to ten, with this increasing the slice of pie that each club will take away. But the Premiership needs more teams to stamp their personality right across the English season, autumn, winter and spring. If there are only ten, it will be impossible to keep the whole competition in the public eye.
Finally, the revival can be declared official if the English clubs (and others across Europe) flex their muscles and refuse to staff such a preposterous number of Test matches.
Here is a great example of present thinking. There is a comprehensive survey on player loads ? it concerns how players can be protected in mind and body. But every single one of the measures investigated concerns about training, and how loading can be decreased by tinkering with training sessions.
It is a disguise behind which union concern melts away into rapacity. It cannot admit that player welfare is harmed by Tests and you will be safe as houses if you call off the match. International games have been ferociously devalued, while remaining dangerous to life and limb. Clubs, reclaim your employees.
There is no sense of revival among elite English players as there is still panic about the next contract. But gradually, and at a price, the ruling bodies have kicked their own backsides into gear.
What of Wasps? They have reformed under the businessman Chris Holland, along with former club greats Peter Scrivener and Kenny Logan, to a point where Holland is ?increasingly confident? that Wasps will be on the start line, probably at their new Sixways home, to begin a campaign in the Championship next season.
Amazingly, the First5 Media group has followed them through their tearful demise, and the first shoots of their recovery, for a documentary. What a show that could be. For Wasps and English rugby, renewal is in the air.
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OK just a snippet but in a Stephen Jones Times article at the end there are two paragraphs saying that Wasps owners are confident of a start at Sixways next season. Plus seems a documentary team have been covering progress if I got it right. Paywall makes it difficult so if anyone .......
He does probably Sixways,so he doesn't know much.
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OK just a snippet but in a Stephen Jones Times article at the end there are two paragraphs saying that Wasps owners are confident of a start at Sixways next season. Plus seems a documentary team have been covering progress if I got it right. Paywall makes it difficult so if anyone .......
He does probably Sixways,so he doesn't know much.
Between line reading - Atlas are still a problem
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Agreed re Atlas. But I still have a strong gut feel that much is in place and we will take our place in the championship.
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Who has signed for the club?
Surely there would be the usual rumours? The fact there are none suggests that it is only off field that is being sorted/has been sorted. A couple of coaches might just sign and keep quiet- 20 -40 players would not. There would have been leaks. So at best we are ready to go, but have no team and 3 months to get one.
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When does the Championship start?
I'm sure I saw a comment that it was after the WC, but that would be quite late, November, and difficult to get all the fixtures in.
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If there is a documentary being filmed, players could have been made to sign a NDA
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Plus 1
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If a documentary with an NDA is in being produced I am astonished at the utter disregard for the fans.
There are literally thousands of heartbroken fans desperate for some sign that something, anything, was being done. And they've all been completely ignored.
How many have come to terms with there being no Wasps and simply won't be back?
I suspect a large percentage.
The numbers of people here, not just posting, but those who only read as well, are massively down.
The blas? attitude towards the people who ultimately pay for the club is really sad. All for what can only be described as a vanity project.
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Agree if that is the case VV. My totally uninformed view is that the Legends are sticking to their principle of not releasing anything till it?s a done deal. The ground appears to be the tricky bit given the turbulence of what?s happening where we are likely to play. Logan said in a piece of press that he was taking lots and lots of phone calls from agents so stuff around recruitment is bound to be happening. The other point to consider is although we crave press updates we don?t, as I understand it, employ anyone to take care of that. I agree the fans need to be bought along but I think we also need to be cognisant of the limitation we likely currently have.
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If the documentary is bringing in funds then they can NDA to their hearts' content. At this moment a fledgling rugby team needs cash.
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If a documentary with an NDA is in being produced I am astonished at the utter disregard for the fans.
There are literally thousands of heartbroken fans desperate for some sign that something, anything, was being done. And they've all been completely ignored.
How many have come to terms with there being no Wasps and simply won't be back?
I suspect a large percentage.
The numbers of people here, not just posting, but those who only read as well, are massively down.
The blas? attitude towards the people who ultimately pay for the club is really sad. All for what can only be described as a vanity project.
Better the current silence than the BS we were fed during the final months of the previous ownership.
As mentioned, any documentary that is being made won't be just a vanity project, it will be pulling in vital funds as they try to get the club back on its feet.
I'd love to know exactly what is going on, and the longer it goes on the more my concern grows, but it's out of my hands, so I can but wait. The ongoing silence won't lose the club fans in anything like the numbers that a 100 mile move away from its traditional roots did, to a stadium that was completely over the top for club rugby. If it's a vanity project you're looking for...
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NDA would only apply to people we sign in the documentary, not those we approach who turn us down.
There must be people who we approach who say 'no'- and they would be at liberty to say so, regardless of documentary. You can not put a squad together without leaks. I don't buy a NDA stopping player discussions becoming public. We have not heard from anyone saying 'I had a discussion with Wasps'. Think about that, NDAs can't buy that level of silence.
This suggests to me we are sorting pitch, club infrastructure first, then management, then team. Maybe it will come rolling in quickly after the first in the list. Maybe not, but it will be tight.
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Domestic game?s rulers have woken up at last ? renewal is in the air
Stephen Jones
It includes: Simon Massie-Taylor, the newest chief executive, who has impressed; Phil Winstanley, the old warrior prop; then there are three independent members who are now being sought, plus one distinguished former player. So PR will no longer be sitting in judgment on itself as judge and jury and prison warder. The independents will help it clean out of sight.
Lots in Stephen Jones article to take in but this bit struck me as yet more Rugby burying its head in the sand.
Talking about this great new set-up, but it?s the same people, SMT in my mind hasn?t impressed, he was accused of being asleep after the Wasps & Worcs demise.
Winstanley, trying to remember the details but didn?t he try and twist the rules to help out his old club Sale a few years back when they had Covid.
Will the ex-player be someone already involved as well?
It?s still all about looking after number 1.
Regarding Wasps, I just wish they would say something, even if it?s just ?we can?t say anything?, my optimism is slowly disintegrating.
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Is Stephen Jones a Premier Rugby puppet? His article reads like it was penned by their public relations department, very disappointing for a quality paper. Still, I guess if you're going to put in a puff piece, best to do it over a long bank holiday weekend when the editor is away.
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Not quite sure he?s a puppet. My reading of the article is that he calls out the idea of a ten team league as being fundamentally flawed. He appears to have said. that such a league would not have enough matches to keep the game in the public eye throughout the season. That would seem like an argument for more clubs, not fewer.
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He is very contrary- and can be wildly off the mark. He often comes across as a sycophant, but can also surprise in the vehenence of his criticism of refs, WR, RFU, PRL, WRU et al. I think he is just prone to strong statements. In this case I felt he was not a PRL mouthpiece, just ignoring the fact that SMT is back involved again.
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The numbers of people here, not just posting, but those who only read as well, are massively down.
For me - I post less as there's no news.....and I look to see if there's any news. It is really poor form iro fans and I was hoping there would be as chance to get to a game next season - regardless of my health!
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The numbers of people here, not just posting, but those who only read as well, are massively down.
For me - I post less as there's no news.....and I look to see if there's any news. It is really poor form iro fans and I was hoping there would be as chance to get to a game next season - regardless of my health!
Traffic on here always dropped off after the end of the season, but soon recovered come September.
I don't think the current drop in numbers necessarily means that people have gone, never to return. When there's a game every weekend, then that gives us plenty to talk about. No reason to think the current lack of interest won't be reversed if and when we actually have some rugby to talk about again.
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I don?t think anyone can realistically switch allegiance. And Mike - hope you?re OK.
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We might not post as much but it doesn't mean that we have given up and left. It is this thread plus DWs that keeps us in touch with each other and gives us hope. If this thread went we really would give up, but this is (apart from DWs) the only contact and source of such info as there is and for me is the first and last piece of info that I check every day and for that I am deeply grateful. Thank you VV. Don't give up.
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We might not post as much but it doesn't mean that we have given up and left. It is this thread plus DWs that keeps us in touch with each other and gives us hope. If this thread went we really would give up, but this is (apart from DWs) the only contact and source of such info as there is and for me is the first and last piece of info that I check every day and for that I am deeply grateful. Thank you VV. Don't give up.
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Difficult to keep commenting on no new news. You can only put up with me saying the same crap over and over again :)
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We might not post as much but it doesn't mean that we have given up and left. It is this thread plus DWs that keeps us in touch with each other and gives us hope. If this thread went we really would give up, but this is (apart from DWs) the only contact and source of such info as there is and for me is the first and last piece of info that I check every day and for that I am deeply grateful. Thank you VV. Don't give up.
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Difficult to keep commenting on no new news. You can only put up with me saying the same crap over and over again :)
Likewise with me, I do think I'm a broken record on the forum sometimes ha. Though I do stop by pretty much every day to see if there's anything new to talk about, like the European 1/4s.
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What is there to discuss? Cant keep discussing no news must be good news.
I'm keen to get going again, but I cant say the same for the rest of the family who have lost interest. I suspect many casual fans and youngsters have moved on too. Modern times, short attention spans etc. Even a statement saying no news means we are still working hard to put everything in place, would be better than the current silence. Its very tough times out there raising finance and finding sponsors and suppliers who have the trust to get involved.
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A Pudsey sort of update tweet at least about the lack of update!
https://twitter.com/WaspsKitMan/status/1645863703865065472?t=Abqrj7qD0ay991VKsu1spQ&s=19
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A Pudsey sort of update tweet at least about the lack of update!
https://twitter.com/WaspsKitMan/status/1645863703865065472?t=Abqrj7qD0ay991VKsu1spQ&s=19
Just seen this as well. Looks like there is something to communicate.
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Thank you Pudsey. You are a star.
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I am hoping there will be, but I am not expecting team+ground+dor+ coaching staff.
I would settle for ground + X, where X is anything that suggests we play next year.
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Interesting that "they" are still using Pudsey to release odd snippets when they deem them necessary.
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Not so sure. Going on recent ?announcements? he may operate alone. Although as far as I know he?s our only employee other than our ceo so maybe it makes sense!
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I imagine that, as Pudsey is a popular figure amongst Wasps fans, anything coming through him (with the board's blessing no doubt) will be well received. This is in addition to him being one of few employees at Wasps too!
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They've kept everything else under tight control, Pudsey must have been given very clear instructions about what he can and can't say if not someone vetting them pre release.
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It is good to know that what's left of the club hasn't just vanished off the face of the planet.
Thanks, Pudsey.
"Significant trouble reactivating" reads to me like someone who left had all the passwords and access info.... and the administrators didn't. Or the previous social media guru changed them on the way out. Which would be unprofessional, but understandable!
Sounds like we might start to get drip-fed some info though...
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I'm not sure I buy that.
Someone has posted on the official Twitter several times since we went bust. How did they manage that if they couldn't access the social media?
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Slightly puzzling when we were informed that Wasps had paid all bills associated with the Internet property to ensure continued ownership of the name and content. As above somebody must have departed with access permissions. The long troublesome Road!
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The Web hosting was paid as a priority, I know the chap who owns the company that was doing it.
As to website management I suspect that was done in house. Its possible that there was no system in place to record login credentials. But even so it's not beyond the wit of man to create a simple site as a holding measure until a proper new one can be built.
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The Web hosting was paid as a priority, I know the chap who owns the company that was doing it.
As to website management I suspect that was done in house. Its possible that there was no system in place to record login credentials. But even so it's not beyond the wit of man to create a simple site as a holding measure until a proper new one can be built.
So what you saying, Pudsey is lying?
Your antagonism to the new Wasps regime is getting predictable and is continuously casting a dark cloud over what we hope to be a
fresh new chapter in our clubs history.
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So what you saying, Pudsey is lying?
No,. not at all. Just that he clearly doesn't have accurate information. How do you explain the fact that posts have been made, and that there is no access to social media? Clearly something doesn't match up.
Your antagonism to the new Wasps regime is getting predictable and is continuously casting a dark cloud over what we hope to be a
fresh new chapter in our clubs history.
Lol! What new Wasps regime? All I want is some communication. I honestly think they had a real opportunity to be open and transparent about the whole process. To show the situation as it really is, and in doing so to build some genuine excitement and support. To both retain the existing fans, and even to add in some more along the way. They have done nothing at all for the fans. The idea that no-one involved had the ability to set up a new twitter account and to post the odd update here or there is laughable. If they wanted to, they would have.
Maybe I'll be positive about the club if an when it actually exists, but as it stands what on earth have the done to deserve any loyalty?
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To be fair the last regime was neither open and was certainly dishonest if only by omission. Before that we were pretty opaque too. It seems to be a Wasp tradition of keeping people in the dark.
As for social media, at least nobody has offered us a seat next to dead people, as yet. If you don't recall that one, it was the St Georges day game- "calling all George's", one of whom listed was George Harrison, who was as dead then as he is now. So I am counting that as a win.
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Something of note on Companies House that was highlighted on Twitter - Chris Holland last week incorporated a new company 'HALO23 LTD' - 'HALO22 LTD' was incorporated last year. Not much more info beyond that at this point. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14782738
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Atlas playing silly buggers with the RFU again.
I hope to god we have nothing to do with them.
https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/23450951.worcester-warriors-atlas-release-statement-regarding-rugby-club/
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This was what prompted that Press Release:
https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/23450307.worcester-warriors-rfu-release-letter-former-players/
The RFU saying that Atlas had not approached them, but if they did, heavy hints that the RFU would block the proposed Stourbridge deal.
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I don?t think anyone can realistically switch allegiance. And Mike - hope you?re OK.
Thank you. I have days when the long covid symptoms (as I've never tested +ve) mean a 20 minute walk with the dog leaves me resting for hours....I need to use public transport to get to games - and longer journies can be a risk....and randomly so!
But - if we are playing next season, I will see you there!
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I don?t think anyone can realistically switch allegiance. And Mike - hope you?re OK.
Thank you. I have days when the long covid symptoms (as I've never tested +ve) mean a 20 minute walk with the dog leaves me resting for hours....I need to use public transport to get to games - and longer journies can be a risk....and randomly so!
But - if we are playing next season, I will see you there!
20 minutes? I can't do more than 50 yards without having to take rest and catch my breath. Before Covid, I could walk for 3 or 4 miles easy. I used to work as a volunteer lockkeeper for the CRT, had to give that up too. I can't stand and watch a rugby game. I have to sit, and park really nearby. Still can't get a blue badge though. I was a season ticket holder at Stratford upon Avon. Actually got to 2 matches.
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I don?t think anyone can realistically switch allegiance. And Mike - hope you?re OK.
Thank you. I have days when the long covid symptoms (as I've never tested +ve) mean a 20 minute walk with the dog leaves me resting for hours....I need to use public transport to get to games - and longer journies can be a risk....and randomly so!
But - if we are playing next season, I will see you there!
20 minutes? I can't do more than 50 yards without having to take rest and catch my breath. Before Covid, I could walk for 3 or 4 miles easy. I used to work as a volunteer lockkeeper for the CRT, had to give that up too. I can't stand and watch a rugby game. I have to sit, and park really nearby. Still can't get a blue badge though. I was a season ticket holder at Stratford upon Avon. Actually got to 2 matches.
That's really bad. It was just an example - I've gone from Alpine walking holidays to sometimes barely making 100m with the dog. The 20mins was an example only. And the main problem is that the symptoms are random. That 100m can produce severe flu like symptoms with what seems like an inability to produce ATP for muscle use, or nothing at all - with no prior indications. I can't drive and so need to use public transport and so even a short trip is taking a risk.