Always a Wasp

Ross, I won't quote you so as to take up the entire page..but I'm not clear on the relevance of the article to the discussion, perhaps because there is none.
Yet another 'woe is me' article that fails to mention he was not selected by 3 England coaches, not just Jones.
As for labeling him a Galactico..this thread is getting more bonkers by the second.
As Shugs says, I don't care where he goes or what he does, inside or out of rugby, but please god just make it stop...Maybe just one more article and Dacia will lend him the free car he is coveting...

Mike - completely agree with your post. The problem is, as Wasps fans, we’ve now got six front line props being West, Harris, Martinez, Koch, Ryan and Alo. So, as much as I hate the scrum being used as a penalty farm I’d like it to remain that way for a season or two!!

Lets hope we have 30 scrums a game then, that only leaves about 20 mins of backplay to have to endure.

The warning signs are all there in the comments. “he left to chase his dream” “he’d become disillusioned with the game” etc etc. A disillusioned, demotivated Wade trying to get back for a couple of years is a massively different beast to the hungry, committed player that started out. For me head needs to rule heart in this one.

Totally this.
People seem to have 'Heard or Understood' a few things. Postman updates aside, he left us mid season and Dai was quoted as surprised and unprepared from a recruitment standpoint to fill that position, that doesn't strike me like a situation a club or business would knowingly put themselves in knowing some 6-7 months in advance.
As Shugs says, he was disillusioned with rugby, blaming others for the fact that he didn't make the Intl stage when fact is he just wasn't rounded enough. He didn't take his Saxons or Lions opportunity to stake any definitive claim. Every winger wants to play intl rugby and ultimately fails without blaming other other factors. If my memory serves me, his last season or so was some what of a nothing contribution.
Don't get me wrong, he scored and created some sublime stuff, some utter brilliance...but IMO he's held in an esteem he doesn't deserve and for me, showed the club little respect, only servicing his own needs.
Having not achieved his ultimate 'dream', he's sniffing around the game again having quote: built up an appetite? - How did he do that?
I'd never date an ex that cheated on me.

Quote from: Shugs on May 21, 2022, 05:17:04 PM

Well we have a shot at it. A point last night would have made a difference.

I think the Irish was the one. It would have been all done by now.

2 weeks to work on tactics, which doesn’t seem to have been the case too much this season.

I really hope Fifita will be available. I don’t want to see a centre partnership of Gopperth and Fekitoa

Your suggesting we have tactics?

I don't know that I'd completely rule him out based on lack of distribution.
While our wingers are of average quality not passing to then probably doesn't hurt as much as it otherwise would.


His highlight performances typically came from running good supporting lines which is a key skill for both a winger and an outside centre.
Power and footwork are handy, but it's crucial to get the defensive positioning right, and that comes with training and experience.


As for Brown at full back, I can certainly see where he'd benefit us, but he's the wrong player to be championing when you're criticising someone else's lack of distribution in the same post
Erm..because MB doesn't play 13, we weren't talking about 15 in those theads mate.

This forum is always joking about trying Alfie at 12.
But more seriously often suggesting, Jacob or Charlie at 12, Odogwu at 13, and probably some others I can't think of.


We've actually seen Bassett at 13, MLB and Fekitoa playing 12 or 13, Miller at 10 and 12, Oghre at 7, and many other unusual positions.




So many positions require comparable skills where a good player can move
Also, with younger players, they'll have often recently played other positions before breaking into the first team
And older players may have the intelligence and experience to adapt their skills to various positions too




Is playing Jacob at 15 as ridiculous as Oghre at 7?


Odogwu had some very good games at 13 that brought him onto the England radar, however, before that he was a winger that looked like he might have quick feet and some power, but he's now considered a winger / outside centre.


You only find that by trying players out in positions where their skills might translate....... But with so few dead rubber games these days it's incredibly difficult for a coach to try that.

Firstly, whats with the paragraph breaks?
Ogre at 7 was the only one that kind of worked. For me Dog is not and will never be a FT 13...evvvveeerrrr.
No issue with Jacob at 15, if he improves the core skills, that's where a Mike brown would do wonders.

Disagree. Hougaard makes eye catching tackles but he’s often out of position. There have been lots of instances of him stepping out of the line for a hit allowing easy access outside him. He also lacks the pace going the other way and doesn’t have Odogwu’s power.

Dogs 'Power and Pace' hasn't shown up all season and while Hougaard might have been out of position, that's better than Dog being in position and still failing to tackle. Hougaard all day for me..or better still, let's give Mehson a go. The season is already a dumpster fire.

Isn't it more likely any problems at 10, if you can call it a problem, seems a bit of an over statement, stem from a lack of form at 9.
Robson is in shocking form, it's not Atkinsons fault he is kicking out on the full, kicking 2 meters and making terrible decisions.
Affirms how much of a clown Blackett is having told the media how Robsons back to his best..the guys playing like a drain and it took 73 mns to realise it yesterday. The statement goes a long way in explaining why we are so shit..he's clueless.
We have a coaching issue... If it weren't for our work rate or moments of individualism, we'd have lost more games than we have this season. Our coaching team is hiding behind both.
As for Atkinson, not even sure why there is a dedicated thread, the talent is clearly being coached out of him.