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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Holland working hard for WW
« on: April 25, 2024, 03:21:21 PM »
Basically, Atlas, who Holland helped buy Sixways & WW, have gone into a pre-packed administration. Leaving Loxwood (CH) and "the local business community" owning everything. Some nice words about bring elite rugby back to 6 ways & making the location profitable (and keeping employees employed). Also confirms that the RFU have been advised that WW want to join the second tier
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Holland working hard for WW
« on: April 25, 2024, 12:36:06 PM »
ah, this then?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hsvvhd?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
Haven't listened to yet
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hsvvhd?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
Haven't listened to yet
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Holland working hard for WW
« on: April 25, 2024, 12:26:19 PM »
you mean this?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5d6me8dy1o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5d6me8dy1o
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 25, 2024, 10:11:16 AM »
The only Champ club I have been to is Nottingham. Good position, easy to get to but basic facilities (single small stand) but they are trying hard. Large semi permanent marquee for food & drink for example. Their biggest problem is the Trent floods the pitch on a reasonably regular basis!
Very nice people though & well organised.
Very nice people though & well organised.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 24, 2024, 03:44:24 PM »Quote
Average Attendances:
Coventry 3440
Bedford 3063
Doncaster 1884
C. Pirates 1611
Cambridge 1411
Caldy 1182
Nottingham 1158
Ampthill 1069
Ealing 1008
Hartpury 994
L. Scottish 608
Thanks for posting. very interesting. Anyone have any idea why Coventry & Bedford get such high gates compared with the rest?
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 23, 2024, 03:14:48 PM »
I hope you are right Coddy, I really do. I also hadn't quite appreciated how low the attendance for Champ games is. You are right that any interest in those lost clubs, however low, could only be a boost & you do wonder why the other clubs aren't keener?
For me it all depends on the composition of the squad/management, the competition they are playing in & the length of time before things actually happen.
All the marketing in the world isn't going to get new fans to watch a team of unknowns play a club they've never heard of.
Is it even Wasps if its just a franchise team with no link to the past other than a few old players fronting it & a badge? Even if it is will I care if they play in a competition I might have serious reservations about?
Maybe other supporters have made up their minds either way but for me, I can't decide until I see where it all ends up.
For me it all depends on the composition of the squad/management, the competition they are playing in & the length of time before things actually happen.
All the marketing in the world isn't going to get new fans to watch a team of unknowns play a club they've never heard of.
Is it even Wasps if its just a franchise team with no link to the past other than a few old players fronting it & a badge? Even if it is will I care if they play in a competition I might have serious reservations about?
Maybe other supporters have made up their minds either way but for me, I can't decide until I see where it all ends up.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: US league anyone?
« on: April 23, 2024, 09:39:56 AM »
Usual inaccurate click bait headline:
when of course no where in the article does it say that, it says:
No one said its an option or indeed likely. If playing in the URC wasn't nonsense enough, now we get this!
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Exclusive: The US is an option for Wasps? revival, Kenny Logan reveals
when of course no where in the article does it say that, it says:
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?Plenty of people want Wasps back. It seems we?ve had every league in the world ask ?do you want to come back and play with us? ? including as a US franchise in Major League Rugby.?
No one said its an option or indeed likely. If playing in the URC wasn't nonsense enough, now we get this!
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 22, 2024, 01:55:00 PM »Quote
I think Wasps would probably average 2-3 thousand a game in their first season back
What are you basing that on Coddy?
Not being argumentative, genuine question.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 22, 2024, 10:40:04 AM »Quote
As far as I can recall it has always been a 25/26 reentry (if it is to happen). The PRL planned all along to up the funding cap next season and the RFU seemed to suggest after that levels off a change can occur
Thanks, that makes sense (sort of!)
It's been reported that the RFU/PRL are keen to see the 3 broken clubs back in "Tier 2" because of the supporters, their history, investment potential etc etc. but IMO I Can't see Wasps, (or LI & Wuss) attracting the support necessary to make it worthwhile getting them into that "Tier 2"
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: overseas player
« on: April 22, 2024, 10:25:24 AM »
The interesting thing for me is that the French clubs actually want English players. Given that they have quite strict rules on foreign players in each squad & all of the southern hemisphere to chose from I wonder if English players are relatively cheap compared to others & what that says about salaries in the prem!
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Tier 2 Update - RFU
« on: April 22, 2024, 09:53:13 AM »Quote
Season 2024-25 will be a Championship of 12 clubs, comprising the 11 existing Championship clubs and the winner of National One (Chinnor RFC).
Council approved a process for existing Championship clubs to validate and evidence their ability to meet the ?essential? minimum operating standards, and other matters, in order to participate in the new Tier 2 league, which will ultimately be decided by the Tier 2 Management Board.
So no room for Wasps, or LI & Wuss next season.
So is there a "Championship" next season with a new potentially expanded "Tier2" the season after? Is that what is being proposed?
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: The Sunday Times
« on: April 15, 2024, 10:31:11 AM »
I think its more likely that the Champ clubs, seeing that the RFU & PRL want the 3 lost clubs back, are trying to use that as a bargaining chip to get a better deal.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: overseas player
« on: April 12, 2024, 04:12:27 PM »
While his word do sound very patronising is he actually wrong?
Out of the English qualified players not playing in England how many would actually be in the squad?
Marchant, Arundell & Willis perhaps, but any others?
Out of the English qualified players not playing in England how many would actually be in the squad?
Marchant, Arundell & Willis perhaps, but any others?
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Ex Wasps signing for new clubs
« on: April 10, 2024, 01:58:26 PM »Quote
After their recent tankings by Northampton and Bordeaux-Begles, I'm pretty certain it's well under way already.
But then only a few weeks ago the destroyed Quins. I expect them to be in the mix for play offs, sadly.
However, undoubtedly they will find it harder to compete at the top level when cheating is more difficult.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: So what do we think is happening?
« on: April 04, 2024, 04:23:52 PM »
I think a franchised prem 2 will happen, with or without all the Champ clubs being involved.
No idea whether that will have promotion to prem 1 or promotion from whatever is below prem 2, nor whether any promotion comes with non playing requirements like un-realistic stadia or other nonsense like how many social media followers you have!
When? can't see anything being in place for the 24-25 season given the current massive gulf between the PRL & Champonship.
Not sure I would want to actually be part of such a competition, but that will depend on the details which don't exist at the moment.
Equally I don't think I would want to be part of the URC either (no salary cap, no relegation/promotion, pretty unrealistsic away days, dubious quality & no England players in the team) and I am not sure that would ever happen anyway either.
As for a 28k stadium in Kent & sustainable finance etc, sorry, but in the absence of a competition to play in I can't believe any of that is going to happen either.
So option 1 seems the likeliest outcome IMO.
No idea whether that will have promotion to prem 1 or promotion from whatever is below prem 2, nor whether any promotion comes with non playing requirements like un-realistic stadia or other nonsense like how many social media followers you have!
When? can't see anything being in place for the 24-25 season given the current massive gulf between the PRL & Champonship.
Not sure I would want to actually be part of such a competition, but that will depend on the details which don't exist at the moment.
Equally I don't think I would want to be part of the URC either (no salary cap, no relegation/promotion, pretty unrealistsic away days, dubious quality & no England players in the team) and I am not sure that would ever happen anyway either.
As for a 28k stadium in Kent & sustainable finance etc, sorry, but in the absence of a competition to play in I can't believe any of that is going to happen either.
So option 1 seems the likeliest outcome IMO.