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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: URC Semis
« Last post by Neils on June 19, 2024, 12:02:52 PM »
Is it really that unfair? Knockouts are played at the home ground of the top seeded team - bulls finished 2nd and would only have played away if they'd played munster.

You can't let teams into a competition and then say 'home/away' or seeding rules don't apply. The URC was more than happy to take the cash and let the saffas in - so now they're reaping tbe consequences.

If leinster didn't want to play their semi in Pretoria, maybe they shouldn't rotate their team for half the league games to focus on Europe, and got more points than the bulls.

You make a fair argument, if you're happy to take the cash, you have to be happy for anything that comes out of it.

I suppose it depends on how badly the URC need the cash because they could quite easily have told the SA teams they were welcome to join but not to expect playing any URC games in South Africa. If memory serves me right, it was the SA clubs who were looking to leave Super Rugby first.

If anything, it's the French and English clubs who I'd have more sympathy with as surely they wouldn't have had a say in the SA teams joining the URC (which became the catalyst to their eventual inclusion in the Champions Cup) and now being bound to any potential long trips that come out of that.

The English and French clubs at least for the last stages of the Champions Cup have the SA teams required to base themselves and play in Europe. 
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: URC Semis
« Last post by jamestaylor002 on June 19, 2024, 10:59:53 AM »
Is it really that unfair? Knockouts are played at the home ground of the top seeded team - bulls finished 2nd and would only have played away if they'd played munster.

You can't let teams into a competition and then say 'home/away' or seeding rules don't apply. The URC was more than happy to take the cash and let the saffas in - so now they're reaping tbe consequences.

If leinster didn't want to play their semi in Pretoria, maybe they shouldn't rotate their team for half the league games to focus on Europe, and got more points than the bulls.

You make a fair argument, if you're happy to take the cash, you have to be happy for anything that comes out of it.

I suppose it depends on how badly the URC need the cash because they could quite easily have told the SA teams they were welcome to join but not to expect playing any URC games in South Africa. If memory serves me right, it was the SA clubs who were looking to leave Super Rugby first.

If anything, it's the French and English clubs who I'd have more sympathy with as surely they wouldn't have had a say in the SA teams joining the URC (which became the catalyst to their eventual inclusion in the Champions Cup) and now being bound to any potential long trips that come out of that.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: URC Semis
« Last post by andermt on June 19, 2024, 08:17:49 AM »
If leinster didn't want to play their semi in Pretoria, maybe they shouldn't rotate their team for half the league games to focus on Europe, and got more points than the bulls.

Very much this, the fact that Leinster, probably the best club side out there with most of the top rated Irish national side have lost again, really cheers me up.

For years they have had advantage after advantage, the whole Aviva stadium cheat, the playing a 2nd string side most weekends and bringing the big guns out for the key matches has always felt like they were taking the proverbial out of the URC as they thought they could win at a cantor, great to see them lose.

As for the SA teams, they should be nowhere near the URC or Europe competitions.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Top 14
« Last post by Heathen on June 18, 2024, 09:23:14 PM »
Top 14 will have a new name next season. RC Vannes won ProD2. Tempted to go to a few games when out chez nous next season. It's about a 2.5 hour drive from here.
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Did I miss it in all that blather, but was there any mention of funding?

Yes....but only to state it hasnt yet been dagreed yet

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Since April, we have been working with the extended Championship executive team to reach final agreement on the following components of the league: Funding; Delegation to a new Tier 2 board; Timeline to complete the MOS self-validation process; Competition structure.

?Council were updated on the progress made since its April meeting and members approved the revised minimum operating standards self-validation timeline and final delegation of authority to the Tier 2 board.

?The final decision on the exact format of the 14-team league will be made by the Tier 2 board no later than August 1, 2024, with the mechanism for any new teams in the league to be decided by council and announced ahead of the new season.


I would suggest there is a VERY long way still to go, Funding and the potential "Franchising" element of the new Tier 2 will be & have been the fundamental sticking points. Promotion was always a bit of red herring IMO.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: URC Semis
« Last post by Neils on June 16, 2024, 03:05:32 PM »
Is it really that unfair? Knockouts are played at the home ground of the top seeded team - bulls finished 2nd and would only have played away if they'd played munster.

You can't let teams into a competition and then say 'home/away' or seeding rules don't apply. The URC was more than happy to take the cash and let the saffas in - so now they're reaping tbe consequences.

If leinster didn't want to play their semi in Pretoria, maybe they shouldn't rotate their team for half the league games to focus on Europe, and got more points than the bulls.

Yes
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: URC Semis
« Last post by Robson9 on June 16, 2024, 01:44:08 PM »
Is it really that unfair? Knockouts are played at the home ground of the top seeded team - bulls finished 2nd and would only have played away if they'd played munster.

You can't let teams into a competition and then say 'home/away' or seeding rules don't apply. The URC was more than happy to take the cash and let the saffas in - so now they're reaping tbe consequences.

If leinster didn't want to play their semi in Pretoria, maybe they shouldn't rotate their team for half the league games to focus on Europe, and got more points than the bulls.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: URC Semis
« Last post by Neils on June 15, 2024, 08:05:05 PM »
Now Glasgow have to go to altitude with, by the time they get there, less than a week of acclimatisation.
Very wrong.
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Did I miss it in all that blather, but was there any mention of funding? Promotion/relegation was there, with the usual almost impossible ground and facilities requirements.

The other two sticking points were funding, and that the RFU intended (implied but not stated) to invite Wasps, Warriors and Irish (thus implying some existing teams would be bumped 'down').
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Big six weeks ahead.

Either the thumbs up or thumbs down will be given as to whether we can get a place in the championship for 2025/26 in August. I'm not sure how much of an issue finding somewhere to play will be. As it was announced back around February that temporary grounds had been secured in Greater London area.

With promotion/relegation being brought back, finding further investors will be easier (easier not easy). This should help with the building of the stadium in Sevenoaks if planning is granted.

We will have a year to get a head coach on board (hopefully someone with links to Wasps of old) draft a team and get a bunch of friendlies under our belts before the 25/26 comp begins.

Exciting times!
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