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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by Neils on March 22, 2023, 06:44:14 PM »Hope to God you're right, Shugs.
Think he is. Atlas confused things big time.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by WonkyWasp on March 22, 2023, 06:19:08 PM »Hope to God you're right, Shugs.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by Shugs on March 22, 2023, 06:02:57 PM »Still positive, still think it will happen and still think we?re entangled in the mess at Worcester which has put the brake on any news.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: England today
« Last post by westwaleswasp on March 22, 2023, 04:43:28 PM »I think it was a pen. To England. Irish player was attempting to gather a ball that was knocked on (and he had no right to play) and ran into an England player who could have legally played the ball. It was the Irish player's responsibility to move out of the way to avoid impeding the England player. Instead he dipped, collided and prevented the England player from any chance of taking part in the move.
Not a red.
Not a yellow.
No foul play.
And although downgrading is rare, the downgrade to yellow is face saving.
Not a red.
Not a yellow.
No foul play.
And although downgrading is rare, the downgrade to yellow is face saving.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by westwaleswasp on March 22, 2023, 04:35:48 PM »Me too!QuoteAnyone still feeling positive?
Personally, no, but I have never been!!
At least we haven't had news that Wasps won't be playing in the champ next season...
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by coddy on March 22, 2023, 01:19:44 PM »I'm still positive until I hear any confirmed news to make me change my mind.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by Heathen on March 22, 2023, 01:05:24 PM »As we approach the end of march we are still to hear anything. Anyone still feeling positive?
Nothing, as such, to be negative about. I still support the view that as nothing negative has arisen, then we should still hold hope for a positive outcome.
I imagine anything that has been concluded, is very closely wrapped up with NDAs and confidentaility clauses.
That said, the clock is ticking fast and come April 1, there are only 6 months until the start of the Championship season.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: Time for positivity.
« Last post by BlackAndGoldSunglasses on March 22, 2023, 10:32:53 AM »Until we have definite news to the contrary, I am still hopeful😟😟😟
+1
No news is good news. Usually.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: England today
« Last post by BlackAndGoldSunglasses on March 22, 2023, 10:32:28 AM »Half in agreement. I think the downgrading to a YC is a purely face saving move to protect Peyper and Jonker.
The framework is strictly structured, but before entering into the decision tree about point of contact, mitigation etc, there is the option of "No fault". This is detailed in the Law Application Guidelines as (https://twitter.com/RuckedOver/status/1638189149470507009/photo/1):
* Sudden and significant drop in height by the ball carrier
* Player had no time to readjust
* Involuntary collision
* No leading arm when close to the body
I reckon at least two of those definitely apply, and arguably all four. Sufficient leeway in the framework for refereeing discretion.
The framework is strictly structured, but before entering into the decision tree about point of contact, mitigation etc, there is the option of "No fault". This is detailed in the Law Application Guidelines as (https://twitter.com/RuckedOver/status/1638189149470507009/photo/1):
* Sudden and significant drop in height by the ball carrier
* Player had no time to readjust
* Involuntary collision
* No leading arm when close to the body
I reckon at least two of those definitely apply, and arguably all four. Sufficient leeway in the framework for refereeing discretion.
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Wasps Rugby Discussion / Re: England today
« Last post by baldpaul101 on March 22, 2023, 10:26:10 AM »Unfortunately the head contact rules have been a problem ever since they came in. Too strict guidelines leaving Referees with no common sense options & fixation with "high tackles" to the exclusion of other dangerous situations like players flying into rucks etc.
Hopefully such a high profile issue will force a review?
Hopefully such a high profile issue will force a review?