England team vs Australia

[mike909]

I think I might have to eat my words about Arundel earlier in the thread.

Seems duck to water then....Hands up!

[backdoc]

I think I might have to eat my words about Arundel earlier in the thread.

I told you so.......!!!

[backdoc]

We score again. But we need the speed we have at the end all game through. Cokanasiga is not the answer to any questions England want to ask.

[mike909]

As the commentator said - a little gloss on a game lost to 14 men - which England would have expected to win 30 mins to go...

Not good enough - anyone thinking the last couple of mins shows it's just rust or anything is imo wrong.

[Neils]

SH whitewash today methinks.

[hopwood]

I think I might have to eat my words about Arundel earlier in the thread.

I told you so.......!!!

Woh, woh.
I’m the first person to have said Arundell was the real deal.
I said it in the hour before the Irish v Wasps game.
I’ve been following him for the last 2 years.
I keep in regular contact with him.

I’ve been saying all season that this guy is something different.
I’m only annoyed Eddie didn’t have the big balls to put him in the 60-65th minute.

Come on. I’ve been the Arundell fan club for months.

[Rossm]

I suppose Jones will take some degree of comfort from the two late tries. But they were both scored by fresh legs coming on against tired 14 men.

[Bloke in North Dorset]

As the commentator said - a little gloss on a game lost to 14 men - which England would have expected to win 30 mins to go...

Not good enough - anyone thinking the last couple of mins shows it's just rust or anything is imo wrong.

It doesn't excuse the performance, but England were only a man up for 30 minutes due to the two yellow cards.

[Bloke in North Dorset]

Whatever Eddie said at half time obviously didn't work, again, it even had a negative effect on the team. So much for the great guru.

[hopwood]

1st May 2022
Hours before Irish v Wasps.
Hopwood quote….

Young Harry Arundell, Irish No 23 and their replacement 15, has got a real set of wheels.
Genuine pace and a very exciting prospect.

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He then won the game against us in the final 15 minutes.

So many people on this site saying that players with little experience shouldn’t be playing yet.
Not how I see it.
Don’t care what Boyd says.
Henry is a talent. Nurture him.

[Shugs]

Still not sure what we’re trying to do. Starting back three of Steward, Nowell and Cockanasinga just doesn’t have enough pace. Make your tackles on those three and your safe. Surely Lawes has to play lock and we bring in a real six. Too many penalties and worryingly scrum time wasn’t great either.

[hopwood]

Right.
From what’s coming out of the press recently, Eddie Jones is starting to change his ways.
About as quickly as a tanker turning in the Solent.
But at least changing.

I think we have the players, but just not the mindset or expression of freedom yet.
Being in the business I am, I really think Eddie Jones wants to be speaking to the English cricket management.
These players are talented.
But they need to be let off the leash.

I’m still withholding judgement until after the 2nd Test.
I don’t think defensively we were tight enough.

But, I do think there’s a spark in there.
A group of players that need to be set free.

I don’t think things are terminal.
Farrell missed a lot of points.
If Eddie can soften up a bit in attack…and tighten up in defence…then we can move up a few notches.

For me…it’s not the end of the world, just yet.

[mike909]

1st May 2022
Hours before Irish v Wasps.
Hopwood quote….

Young Harry Arundell, Irish No 23 and their replacement 15, has got a real set of wheels.
Genuine pace and a very exciting prospect.

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He then won the game against us in the final 15 minutes.

So many people on this site saying that players with little experience shouldn’t be playing yet.
Not how I see it.
Don’t care what Boyd says.
Henry is a talent. Nurture him.

Not being funny - but isn't what we're saying here exactly what LI are doing? He has only started 2 Prem games. He's been allowed to come on an try it on, later in a number of games. LI are nurturing him, by not over playing him or asking too much too soon

He's come on and scored a great try late in a game that's gone. That's great for him - the concern about experience is about the rest of chores all players need to do and how he's going to do there. It could be that he is the exception and good luck to the lad. But given how LI have used him - I'd guess they are keen he's not over extended too soon as well.

[Shugs]

In terms of Arundell his late tries change nothing for me. We’ve still no idea if he’s good enough or not. Australia had the game won when he came on. I’m not saying he isn’t a talent. But the game is chock full of players who make an eye catching contribution when the games done but struggle if put in. That said I’ve no idea what Jones was doing picking Nowell and Cockanasinga so he may as well have a shot on the wing. I don’t think there is any sort of team waiting to blossom unfortunately. Jones selection is all over the place. He’s been exposed as having zero strategy in terms of team development and he changes his coaching team every Tuesday. The results speak for themselves.

[westwaleswasp]

The youngsters thing is a red herring.
The match was blown, everything was in England's  favour, it was a total balls up. Our plan was to grind, grind, grind. We should have been 15 up with as many to play given territory.
You cannot shut Australua out for 80, we need to find more, defense did not let England down, attack did.