Hope?

[WonkyWasp]

Suddenly I feel less hopeful of a good outcome for Wasps' survival, but hope it's just a passing mood. Is Ashley actually going to take over d'you think?  If so,  I hope it actually won't happen.

[NellyWellyWaspy]

Suddenly I feel less hopeful of a good outcome for Wasps' survival, but hope it's just a passing mood. Is Ashley actually going to take over d'you think?  If so,  I hope it actually won't happen.

I think that he will take over the Arena, yes. I think he will leave everything in tickover mode for this and next season, while he negotiates use of land around the arena and in Ansty.

In the background, he might talk with SISU about buying CCFC, but he will not pay a silly price, so that is far from a done deal. He might then turn his attention to Wasps in the 2024/25 season.

He has stepped back from managing the stores part of his empire, so he may be looking for a project, and it is said that he likes the idea of owning a casino.

[Neils]

Suddenly I feel less hopeful of a good outcome for Wasps' survival, but hope it's just a passing mood. Is Ashley actually going to take over d'you think?  If so,  I hope it actually won't happen.

I think that he will take over the Arena, yes. I think he will leave everything in tickover mode for this and next season, while he negotiates use of land around the arena and in Ansty.

In the background, he might talk with SISU about buying CCFC, but he will not pay a silly price, so that is far from a done deal. He might then turn his attention to Wasps in the 2024/25 season.

He has stepped back from managing the stores part of his empire, so he may be looking for a project, and it is said that he likes the idea of owning a casino.

Totally agree with this scenario.

[WonkyWasp]

Thank you both gentlemen.  That makes things a lot clearer

[Laterontoday]

Suddenly I feel less hopeful of a good outcome for Wasps' survival, but hope it's just a passing mood. Is Ashley actually going to take over d'you think?  If so,  I hope it actually won't happen.

I think that he will take over the Arena, yes. I think he will leave everything in tickover mode for this and next season, while he negotiates use of land around the arena and in Ansty.

In the background, he might talk with SISU about buying CCFC, but he will not pay a silly price, so that is far from a done deal. He might then turn his attention to Wasps in the 2024/25 season.

He has stepped back from managing the stores part of his empire, so he may be looking for a project, and it is said that he likes the idea of owning a casino.

Totally agree with this scenario.

Except the land in Ansty is Rugby Borough Council not Coventry City and the amount he is intending to develop there far exceeds anything at the Arena.

He has shown he wants to own a footie team again with his failed bid to buy DCFC but he is not an idiot where money is concerned and IM sure that he can see that minus the bond debt the Arena on its own could be a good money making business.  Does he want a Rugby team ....who knows but I doubt it.  Does he want CCFC .....possibly. 

Wasps need to look elsewhere for a long term ground.  I'm not sure it will do Cov Rugby or Wasps any good to have two championship teams in one small city and Wasps in the Champ may only get 2-3k crowds.  We would look totally lost just using one stand at the Arena.  How bad was it for the Prem Cup games this year?  Wasps might be better off as tenants of another Rugby club such as Mossley or other lower league local club for first XV home games for a couple of years whilst they find their feet and seek a better solution for a long term facility.  Where though, Ive no idea.

Sharing with a lower league or non league footie club will not work because the  pitch quality just wont be good enough to take the rugby and footie wear.

[Shugs]

Agree. He’ll buy the stadium and it could get messy between him and sisu. If our takeover goes through I can see us as tenants which wouldn’t be a disaster given where we’ve been the last few weeks. It may be those taking over have a different idea altogether but there seem to be a few logical reasons (epic, squad location) to play at the CBS. Frasers stated in the Telegraph they are committed to both teams playing there which of course could be encouraging talk while it plays out. To be frank give me existence over non existence and there are few, if any scenarios I’d turn down.

[Neils]

I think in our apparent precarious position a year or two to stabilise at the JD Sports Arena would not be a bad thing. However would agree that there would be a need to keep an eye open for opportunities to develop elswhere.

[Shugs]

Totally agree Neils. Two years there - negotiate as lower rent as possible and incur minimal if any capital outlay. Rebuild the team. Try and get promoted. Then look about.

[WonkyWasp]

Given that somehow somewhere we find the cash?

[Neils]

Given that somehow somewhere we find the cash?

Bit difficult in this cashless society we are being forced to adopt!   

[Peej]

Totally agree Neils. Two years there - negotiate as lower rent as possible and incur minimal if any capital outlay. Rebuild the team. Try and get promoted. Then look about.

These things seems contradictory.

[Neils]

Totally agree Neils. Two years there - negotiate as lower rent as possible and incur minimal if any capital outlay. Rebuild the team. Try and get promoted. Then look about.

These things seems contradictory.

Explain

[InBetweenWasp]

I think that if we survive and have a season in The Championship we'll be playing at the EPIC with the CBS as a fallback option to move to if we got promoted.

[Heathen]

Clutching at straws here. Anyone have any clue as to how long the RFU take to complete their deliberations?

[westwaleswasp]

Totally agree Neils. Two years there - negotiate as lower rent as possible and incur minimal if any capital outlay. Rebuild the team. Try and get promoted. Then look about.

These things seems contradictory.

Explain

At a guess, in order to get promotion, we are going to spend some cash. In order to put a squad together, we will need to have a fair outlay.
I would hazard a guess at us needing to assemble a young core, but also there will be a need for some signings that would not be out of place in the prem.
Problem will be what happens if the 10 or 11 remaining clubs ring-fence.
I honestly cannot see a long term future for Wasps  unless they can see a route to the top table.