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Delilah no more......
« on: February 01, 2023, 03:35:36 PM »
The WFU have dropped it from their playlist.
Why why why.

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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2023, 03:42:04 PM »


Wales bans choir from singing 'Delilah' at Six Nations
The song features a line about a man stabbing his partner, and the ban comes after allegations of a toxic culture at the WRU

By
Charles Richardson
 and
James Corrigan
1 February 2023 ? 12:44pm
The Welsh Rugby Union has banned 'Delilah' from being sung by a choir at the Principality Stadium.

Telegraph Sport understands that the Welsh rugby anthem, which is about a jealous lover stabbing his unfaithful partner, will not be performed in Cardiff during the Six Nations. The ban comes after allegations of sexism, racism and misogyny within the WRU. Wales face Ireland and England at home in rounds one and three respectively, alongside trips to Rome, Edinburgh and Paris.

Earlier this week, ITV News showed the Guernsey Welsh male voice choir rehearsing 'Delilah' before their appearance at Wales's match against England on February 25. That footage, however, is understood to have spooked Welsh Rugby officials, who have instructed their enlisted choirs not to perform the ballad.

The WRU had already prohibited 'Delilah', which reached No 2 in the British charts in March 1968, from being played over the Principality Stadium public address system for a number of years, but the hit remains popular with Cardiff crowds, and had historically been performed and played in the build-up to kick-off.

Despite the move to restrict the ballad's airtime during rugby fixtures, Jones performed the song at a concert in the Principality Stadium in the summer of 2022.


A Principality Stadium spokesperson said: ?Delilah will not feature on the playlist for choirs for rugby internationals at Principality Stadium. The WRU removed the song from its half-time entertainment and music play list during international matches in 2015. Guest choirs have also more recently been requested not to feature the song during their pre-match performances and throughout games.

?The WRU condemns domestic violence of any kind. We have previously sought advice from subject matter experts on the issue of censoring the song and we are respectfully aware that it is problematic and upsetting to some supporters because of its subject matter.?

This is not the first time that the song has proved controversial. There were calls to ban 'Delilah' in 2014 and 2016, with former Plaid Cymru president Dafydd Iwan saying the karaoke classic should be outlawed because it depicts the brutal revenge killing of a woman. Both Jones and the WRU defended the song's usage at the time.

"It's not political, it's about a man just losing it, " the 74-year-old said. "I love to hear it sung? it makes me very proud to be Welsh.

"The great thing about the song I think that everyone picks up on is the chorus, I don?t think that they are really thinking about it.

"I wasn?t thinking that I was the man that was killing the girl when I was singing the song, I was acting out the part and that?s what the song is.

"If it?s a going to be taken literally like that then I think it takes the fun out of it, I think it takes the spirit out why it?s being sung."

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The WRU added in 2014: "Within rugby, Delilah has gained prominence through its musicality rather than because of its lyrics.

"There is however plenty of precedent in art and literature, prominently in Shakespearean tragedies for instance, for negative aspects of life to be portrayed."

As well as its association with Welsh rugby, fans of football club Stoke City have sung Jones's classic since the Eighties.

In 2020, the Rugby Football Union resisted calls to ban 'Swing Low, Sweet Chariot' from Twickenham after reviewing whether the song, with origins in American slavery, was appropriate as part of a wide-ranging and extensive review into its diversity and inclusion programme.

England's governing body concluded that the ballad had "a long-held place in rugby history" and that the union would "proactively educate fans on the history and provenance of the song as well as providing platforms for diverse voices across the game".

Last weekend Steve Phillips resigned as WRU chief executive with Nigel Walker taking interim charge. Those changes came after a week in which the WRU had to answer questions about a toxic culture within its organisation. Chairman and Wales legend Ieuan Evans remains in post and has promised an external investigation into the claims.
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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2023, 03:56:51 PM »
Never really thought about the lyrics, reminds me of when someone pointed out the lyrics on Mack the Knife

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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2023, 04:25:22 PM »
LRZ seems less than impressed: https://twitter.com/LouisReesZammit/status/1620804107392155654

"All the things they need to do and they do that first?.😶"



Got to agree...

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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2023, 04:30:39 PM »
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LRZ seems less than impressed: https://twitter.com/LouisReesZammit/status/1620804107392155654

"All the things they need to do and they do that first?.😶"



Got to agree...

To be fair, this "ban" has been in place for years, its only reminding guest choirs not to sing it during this years 6 nations, which you assume they would have done anyway at some point. Bit of a non story IMO

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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2023, 05:02:30 PM »
Not unlike the RFU's ban on Swing Low. However well intentioned, it does nothing to actually address the issues the unions are facing or the accusations directed towards them. Neither song was a contributory factor in establishing a culture of misogyny or racism, and banning them does little to progress the issues. Could even be argued to be counter productive and divisive, alienating fans who will feel that an established pre match tradition is being offered up as a sacrifice to demonstrate a change of culture without actually achieving anything towards that goal.
Bit of an empty gesture that makes for easy click bait on both counts IMO.

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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2023, 05:14:17 PM »
Can't say I ever listened to the lyrics. I always thought that it was a song about Samson and Delilah and was about a haircut.
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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2023, 07:42:09 PM »
Jerusalem will be the next target.

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Re: Delilah no more......
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2023, 09:11:51 PM »
Just nonsense really isn?t it.