Wasps to Sixways - Telegraph

[Shugs]

The Legends must be tearing their hair out. Let?s not forget they are doing all of this out of the goodness of their hearts and it can?t be easy. I?m happy to wait until they know what?s happening before we are told. There?s some bizarre stuff out there (not on here). We?re just going to have to wait for official word.

[Neils]

Don't forget the very very high level Board members that were named. They are corporate giants and stunts like Atlas's will not go down well.

[Shugs]

Very true. Atlas seem like rank amateurs

[westwaleswasp]

The Legends must be tearing their hair out.

Pretty much rules out Lol, Shaun or Kinga being involved with them then....

[WonkyWasp]

Unkind!

[baldpaul101]

this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

[NellyWellyWaspy]

this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

I think what it means is that Wasps have both the Moors ground in Damson Lane and Sixways offered to them, and contracts have been drawn up and heads of agreement signed. All parties likely know this.

I also suspect that Sixways is the preferred choice, with Moors as the backup. Again, all parties will know this. Moors could go ahead right now, and probably could have back in December. Sixways is waiting on Atlas actually owning it. They have yet to pay Begbies the contract price. Why the delay? I suspect Atlas are worried about a legal challenge by DCMS, or it may be that DCMS have yet to agree to remove their charge over the ground, without which Atlas will not buy it. I doubt they will be willing to a transfer of the debt to them as owners, they will want it free and clear. No challenge though from the RFU, who have clearly agreed by accepting the proposal by Wasps. But, the delay itself could kill the deal. Both Wasps and Moors have to know soon which ground it will be. Season ticket sales, players who need to relocate, contracts for services at the ground, staff recruiting.

And who proposed the 3 year 'limit'? Wasps or Atlas? What limit would there be at Moors? There was initially talk it might have only been a one year plus one year extension (just in case Moors sold their ground to developers and moved).

[Neils]

this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

Wasps did NOT announce anything in December - it was the Telegraph. Wasps have been extremely silent on everything associated with getting back up and running.

Certain "Legends" on twatter have said patience and all will be clear very soon.

[Heathen]

this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

Wasps did NOT announce anything in December - it was the Telegraph. Wasps have been extremely silent on everything associated with getting back up and running.

Certain "Legends" on twatter have said patience and all will be clear very soon.

The only way to do it.

[Vespula Vulgaris]

this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

Wasps did NOT announce anything in December - it was the Telegraph. Wasps have been extremely silent on everything associated with getting back up and running.

Certain "Legends" on twatter have said patience and all will be clear very soon.

The only way to do it.

It really isn't. They could easily be putting out regular updates without giving anything that needed to be secret away.

"Really productive day, spoke to three agents, looks like we're gonna have a hell of a squad"

"The hunt for a venue is getting closer to a conclusion. Definitely staying in the midlands"

That kind of thing.

Not only would it keep the existing fans engaged, it would let us get to know the people who are actually doing the work. It'd give the wider media stories to publish, there'd be speculation. Wasps would be current, at the front of people's minds, and far more folk would be there to listen when they have things they want people to care about.

[Bloke in North Dorset]

this is all rather confusing.
Wasps announced they had agreed a stadium share back in December and it would be announced in due course.
You would assume that to get approval from the RFU they would need to be able to prove they had somewhere suitable to play.
now we we get a statement saying nothing has been agreed.....

Hope we get some clarity soon

Wasps did NOT announce anything in December - it was the Telegraph. Wasps have been extremely silent on everything associated with getting back up and running.

Certain "Legends" on twatter have said patience and all will be clear very soon.

The only way to do it.

It really isn't. They could easily be putting out regular updates without giving anything that needed to be secret away.

"Really productive day, spoke to three agents, looks like we're gonna have a hell of a squad"

"The hunt for a venue is getting closer to a conclusion. Definitely staying in the midlands"

That kind of thing.

Not only would it keep the existing fans engaged, it would let us get to know the people who are actually doing the work. It'd give the wider media stories to publish, there'd be speculation. Wasps would be current, at the front of people's minds, and far more folk would be there to listen when they have things they want people to care about.

Remember all those good news stories that were coming out as we were circling the plughole? Expectations got fairly high and then cam crashing down.

I don't blame them for being quiet until everything, absolutely everything, is set in concrete. No more being left at the alter as it was described at the time when HSBC pulled the plug on the financing that had already been agreed and announced.

[Shugs]

Can see both sides of this. Small updates keeping the club in people?s minds could certainly add value as VV says. There are obviously factors preventing that at the moment - one of them may be simple resource to do so. Personally I look at the people involved and I?m comfortable with the silence as I trust the right things are being done. I see a few on other media outlets wanting more info though so there are obviously some / many who want more.

[Little Potts]

One reason why we haven?t seen any announcements or info may be that they have not hired any marketing resource yet, which would be sensible until they got the green light from the RFU.
Based on Pudsey?s recent tweet he was being taught ground-care which suggests they were trying to be as economical as possible, asking their one employee to cover more than he would have been expected to as Wasps kit-man.
Messaging is one thing you don?t want to get wrong in this space or current climate - saying nothing is better than getting it wrong in my book.

[WonkyWasp]

Just been tiptoeing  through  the Wuss thread and the latest worry appears to be that  Wasps have a Cunning  Plan to move in, gradually make ourselves at home, and in 3 years buy the Stadium  and take over completely.  Don't see that happening.  One can only have sympathy with the Wuss point of view tho' 'far fetched' and  'cloud cuckoo land' do come to mind.

[baldpaul101]

Wasps did NOT announce anything in December -

err, yes they did. The Wasps website posted the news item "Wasps confirm return for 23/24 season" on 16th Dec. It contained the following:
"a groundshare agreement has been reached with a Midlands venue ? which will be announced in the near future ? to host its home games."