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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2023, 10:44:06 PM »
Don't think so: https://www.epcrugby.com/20204/06/heineken-champions-cup-semi-final-venues-3/
Why does it always feel like every year Leinster ( or Ireland B ) are so favoured ? With the choice of independent s/f being their second home. If the stonex can be picked then why not Ulster at least?



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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2023, 08:24:38 AM »
Don't think so: https://www.epcrugby.com/20204/06/heineken-champions-cup-semi-final-venues-3/
Why does it always feel like every year Leinster ( or Ireland B ) are so favoured ? With the choice of independent s/f being their second home. If the stonex can be picked then why not Ulster at least?

StoneX is only because SA teams have to play semis in UK.
Leinster situation is similar to likes of Cardiff choosing Principality or Quins choosing Twickenham or Edinburgh choosing Murrayfield, they happen to have appropriate "neutral" national stadiums on the doorstep and Leinster always get to home semi so it happens more regularly plus final often in Dublin adds to impression!

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2023, 11:22:38 AM »
Many Tigers fans are moaning their team were playing pretty much the Irish national XV when, in reality, the overwhelming majority are local lads who have gone through their Academy system.

There is no reliance on expensive galacticos and their few overseas signings (eg Lowe, Gibson-Park) were pretty much unheard of before moving to Leinster. Since then they have been expertly coached and subsequently developed into international players. 

The Leinster model should be applauded and copied. 

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2023, 03:02:28 PM »
Nice double header about to start now

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2023, 04:05:24 PM »
Half time the two Wasps ahead
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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2023, 04:52:51 PM »
And the two Wasps win through
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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2023, 05:15:14 PM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2023, 05:17:45 PM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

So I'll be supporting Benetton and Toulouse then!

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2023, 05:23:15 PM »
Many Tigers fans are moaning their team were playing pretty much the Irish national XV when, in reality, the overwhelming majority are local lads who have gone through their Academy system.

There is no reliance on expensive galacticos and their few overseas signings (eg Lowe, Gibson-Park) were pretty much unheard of before moving to Leinster. Since then they have been expertly coached and subsequently developed into international players. 

The Leinster model should be applauded and copied.

The Irish model is definitely superior to the English model in many ways - player welfare and development being two examples.

However, I don't think it's all that great.

My understanding is that the IRFU finances the game in Ireland and the national team is the main focus.

The IRFU can, and have, moved players around the provinces to meet the needs of the national side (for example, Joey Carbery moving to Munster from Leinster as the thought at the time was that Carbery would take over from Sexton eventually).

Also, it means the provinces rarely see their top stars playing (I think Tagdh Furlong played 13 games last season with most of those being European games). This isn't a huge issue when the national side is doing as well as it is right now but would that change if success is limited in the future.

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2023, 08:19:16 PM »
Depends what you want. If your focus is the national team the Irish model is great. If you are more interested in club rugby it?s made a farce of the URC. Personally I much prefer the English model.

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2023, 10:14:17 PM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

Add Dan Frost to that list.

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2023, 10:31:04 PM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

Add Dan Frost to that list.

Plus the other four Exeter Wasps.
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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2023, 09:35:52 AM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

Add Dan Frost to that list.

Plus the other four Exeter Wasps.

Also Lee Blackett at Scarlets, lots of positive mentions for his impact there this week.

Plus Kieran Brookes at Toulon and Sione Vailanu at Glasgow if going back a bit!

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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2023, 09:47:40 AM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

Add Dan Frost to that list.

Plus the other four Exeter Wasps.

Also Lee Blackett at Scarlets, lots of positive mentions for his impact there this week.

Plus Kieran Brookes at Toulon and Sione Vailanu at Glasgow if going back a bit!

Ex Wasps yes but not part of the falling apart. Or else you can have LoL in commentary duties.
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Re: ERC 1/4s
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2023, 10:13:24 AM »
Marcus Watson, Jacob Umaga, Jack Willis and Tibaut Flament all in the SFs.

Add Dan Frost to that list.

Plus the other four Exeter Wasps.

Also Lee Blackett at Scarlets, lots of positive mentions for his impact there this week.

Plus Kieran Brookes at Toulon and Sione Vailanu at Glasgow if going back a bit!

Ex Wasps yes but not part of the falling apart. Or else you can have LoL in commentary duties.

Flament wasn't either then!