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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #75 on: May 26, 2023, 08:31:22 PM »
The first one is based on email correspondence this morning. The second on a leak from a meeting with players this afternoon.  Just a big f' up.
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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #76 on: May 26, 2023, 09:16:55 PM »
How can both Massie Taylor and Bil Sweeny have the face to stay in their roles. Must both be amoral.
Time for the DCMS to call them in again, tell them that they should have insisted on full financial transparency  of all clubs following the Saracens affair (though admittedly pre Massie Taylor time) or not be allowed in the Premiership or championship untill they agreed, and tell them both to resign.
They still seem to be asleep on the job. And Sweeny is paid how much to doze?? (I have read over?750k, in which case he must be costing considerably more when 'ers NI at 13.8% travel, and other expenses are added in)

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #77 on: May 26, 2023, 11:04:44 PM »
Catching Up with Foy -


Hope fading at London Irish as players told to prepare for club's suspension by RFU

There was growing pessimism over proposed takeover at meeting on Friday evening
By Charlie Morgan, Senior Rugby Writer 26 May 2023 ? 9:33pm


Hope is fading at London Irish, with players told to prepare for the club to be suspended by the Rugby Football Union if  it fails to meet next Tuesday?s deadline on a takeover deal.

Representatives from the RFU, the Rugby Players? Association and Premiership Rugby, in the shape of chief executive Simon Massie-Taylor, joined a meeting with club staff on Friday evening.

There, despite assurances from an Irish figurehead that the takeover was ?active? just hours earlier via email, growing pessimism was spelled out. As far as the RFU is concerned, ?zero progression? has been made. There remains a lack of information over the funds of the US consortium purportedly interested in acquiring the club from Mick Crossan.

Crossan himself is thought to have been invited to join the meeting, but was not involved, raising further questions over his willingness to finance the club if the consortium?s takeover falls through.

The prospect of a third Premiership club going to the wall within a year, following Worcester Warriors and Wasps to leave more players and staff thrust into unemployment, is becoming more real. Indeed, a source suggested that many front-line players at Irish ?have things lined up?.

Henry Arundell, the explosive 20-year-old who made his first England start against Ireland in the Six Nations, would be a prize recruit for any Premiership rivals with room under the salary cap. Back-rowers Tom Pearson and Matt Rogerson, like Arundell in contention to make Steve Borthwick?s World Cup training squad, are two more leading lights at Irish.

Earlier on Friday, shortly after 2pm, staff were told that over a takeover deal remained ?active?, but that no funds have materialised with just four days until the RFU?s deadline of May 30.

In an email to club staff from acting chief executive Adrian Alli, which has been seen by Telegraph Sport, it was said that Crossan has been working around the clock in order to ?progress? a deal with US buyers. However, it was conceded that clarity over the required funds was still forthcoming.

?The deal is still active, with Mick speaking to the US into the night and early hours of the morning to progress,? reads the email from Alli.

?We have not received the funds as yet, nor confirmation of the funds, but have had email communication this morning to indicate that these are expected imminently and now have more details over the remitting bank.

?I have no detail as to the reason for the delay other than needing to go through certain approvals for fund release.?

The email then suggested that a Zoom call between Crossan and the squad would be set up for next week in order to shed further light on an increasingly bleak situation.

Earlier this month, the RFU imposed a deadline of May 30 for the takeover to be completed or for the current ownership to show evidence that Irish could be funded through next season. Failure to do so would result in the club being suspended from participation in the Premiership and any other competitions.

Telegraph Sport has previously revealed that the head of the US consortium aiming to buy Irish is Alfred ?Chip? Sloan, a California-based lawyer and former sports agent. Players and staff at Irish are due to be paid by next Wednesday, having only received their wages for April late after Crossan stumped up to pay them.
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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2023, 01:37:20 AM »
The Good the bad and the rugby podcast had Massy Taylor on this week, worth a listen to really understand how far his head is buried in the sand.

According to him currently the premiership has a soft salary cap, as opposed to the hard one in France, and the average, yes average spend, in the premiership this season is ?7.5M. This is vs the hard cap of approx ?9.3M in France, and he hopes to close the gap by increasing it in season 2024/25.
By increasing the cap it allows space for clubs to lure back players like Jack Willis, he was very coy about tv deals but it was all ploughed back into premiership rugby, although I assume he means the company as opposed to the actual rugby, to help pay the money they owe CVC every year.

I ended up getting more angry at his lack of understand of just what was happening and I have no idea what he thinks will cover the budgets in future.

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #79 on: May 27, 2023, 09:53:36 AM »
Will they be stripped of their P Share like we were?
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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #80 on: May 27, 2023, 10:00:49 AM »
Will they be stripped of their P Share like we were?

If they go - they bloody well should be. 

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #81 on: May 27, 2023, 01:30:52 PM »
Will they be stripped of their P Share like we were?
The wolves will have been circulating it for weeks.

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #82 on: May 27, 2023, 02:40:12 PM »
Not sure a one-tenth P share in a shrunken premiership will be worth as much as the p shares in the old 30% larger premiership

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #83 on: May 27, 2023, 03:53:54 PM »
Not sure a one-tenth P share in a shrunken premiership will be worth as much as the p shares in the old 30% larger premiership
AIUI for next year the remains clubs will get 1/11 of remaking TV money instead of 1/14 or 1/15 if it had gone to 14 clubs.

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #84 on: May 27, 2023, 03:57:08 PM »
Not sure a one-tenth P share in a shrunken premiership will be worth as much as the p shares in the old 30% larger premiership
AIUI for next year the remains clubs will get 1/11 of remaking TV money instead of 1/14 or 1/15 if it had gone to 14 clubs.

Bigger amount to CVC - for doing f all.
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« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2023, 05:10:18 PM »
Irish can?t possibly turn this round in one day. PRL are no doubt happy as it delivers them their new target of 10 teams. But it?s essentially the end for an already dead league.

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2023, 05:21:59 PM »
Not sure a one-tenth P share in a shrunken premiership will be worth as much as the p shares in the old 30% larger premiership
AIUI for next year the remains clubs will get 1/11 of remaking TV money instead of 1/14 or 1/15 if it had gone to 14 clubs.

Bigger amount to CVC - for doing f all.
Providing capital that the Prem has squandered isn?t f all.

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #87 on: May 27, 2023, 05:48:16 PM »
Not sure a one-tenth P share in a shrunken premiership will be worth as much as the p shares in the old 30% larger premiership
AIUI for next year the remains clubs will get 1/11 of remaking TV money instead of 1/14 or 1/15 if it had gone to 14 clubs.

Bigger amount to CVC - for doing f all.
Providing capital that the Prem has squandered isn?t f all.

Yes bit since then what have they done bar sit back and watch implosion.
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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #88 on: May 27, 2023, 11:37:27 PM »
What's the odds on Arundel to Saracens...

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #89 on: May 28, 2023, 08:07:25 AM »
What's the odds on Arundel to Saracens...

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