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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2023, 10:42:06 AM »
What's the odds on Arundel to Saracens...

Just Arundell?
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« Reply #91 on: May 28, 2023, 01:46:18 PM »
Remember, it's a soft salary cap

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« Reply #92 on: May 28, 2023, 03:59:30 PM »
Arundell will probably go to Brizzle, I mean if Elliott Daly is on the bench for Salarycens then surely they don't need another back 3 player?

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« Reply #93 on: May 28, 2023, 04:20:09 PM »
Arundell will probably go to Brizzle, I mean if Elliott Daly is on the bench for Salarycens then surely they don't need another back 3 player?

When has that stopped them!
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« Reply #94 on: May 28, 2023, 05:54:17 PM »
Arundell will probably go to Brizzle, I mean if Elliott Daly is on the bench for Salarycens then surely they don't need another back 3 player?
But when money is no object having Daly and Arundel on the bench means they aren?t playing against you in 2/18 fixtures nor in the semi or final.

The only issue is what is the price to get a top international sitting on a bench and happy not starting more than 4 or 5 times a season.

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #95 on: May 28, 2023, 06:39:52 PM »
Arundell will probably go to Brizzle, I mean if Elliott Daly is on the bench for Salarycens then surely they don't need another back 3 player?
But when money is no object having Daly and Arundel on the bench means they aren?t playing against you in 2/18 fixtures nor in the semi or final.

The only issue is what is the price to get a top international sitting on a bench and happy not starting more than 4 or 5 times a season.

I don't know anyone at Leinster to ask :)

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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #96 on: May 28, 2023, 07:38:22 PM »
Arundell will probably go to Brizzle, I mean if Elliott Daly is on the bench for Salarycens then surely they don't need another back 3 player?
But when money is no object having Daly and Arundel on the bench means they aren?t playing against you in 2/18 fixtures nor in the semi or final.

The only issue is what is the price to get a top international sitting on a bench and happy not starting more than 4 or 5 times a season.

It'll be less than the nothing he'll be earning on the dole once Irish go under.
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« Reply #97 on: May 28, 2023, 07:40:35 PM »
Have you lot learnt nothing? The price is merely the pride in the Sarries shirt, the opportunity to win things, the chance to run out in front of their 4,000 fans?..ok not the last one. They don?t pay these guys. If they did there is a danger they would exceed the cap which they?d never do. Let?s just enjoy Sarries being back and winning things. To dig any deeper would be so inconvenient.

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« Reply #98 on: May 28, 2023, 07:40:42 PM »
Arundell will probably go to Brizzle, I mean if Elliott Daly is on the bench for Salarycens then surely they don't need another back 3 player?
But when money is no object having Daly and Arundel on the bench means they aren?t playing against you in 2/18 fixtures nor in the semi or final.

The only issue is what is the price to get a top international sitting on a bench and happy not starting more than 4 or 5 times a season.

I don't know anyone at Leinster to ask :)
fair point, but not quite analogous because they?re centrally contracted and managed by IRFU plus the nationalist element of competing in a multi country league reduces options.

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« Reply #99 on: May 28, 2023, 11:48:54 PM »
Don't forget there's something special happening at Saracens, so not only will pride in the shirt be worth it for Arundel (and whoever else they cherry pick), but a 'profit making' business for a pound and a house will help that pride along as he sits on the bench for their 2nd International XV.
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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #100 on: May 29, 2023, 08:26:12 PM »


London Irish to be suspended from Premiership as offers made for Henry Arundell and Tom Pearson
Exclusive: RFU imposed a deadline of May 30 for Irish to complete a takeover or provide proof of funding for the entire 2023/24 campaign

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Charlie Morgan,
 SENIOR RUGBY WRITER
29 May 2023 ? 5:48pm
Tom Pearson - London Irish to be suspended from Premiership as club offers made for Henry Arundell and Tom Pearso
London Irish are set to be suspended by the Rugby Football Union on Wednesday, leaving their players scrambling for employment ahead of next season.

The chaos has also led to calls from Championship clubs for English rugby union bosses to heed the ?wake-up call? and seize the opportunity to strengthen the second tier with more generous funding in a bid to accommodate the afflicted Irish players and solidify the league structure.

In scenes grimly familiar to those encountered by the squads of Worcester Warriors and Wasps just months ago, each individual at Irish faces a different circumstance. Though some are certain to be recruited within weeks, others have taken matters into their own hands with personal calls and emails.

Telegraph Sport understands that England wing Henry Arundell and World Cup hopeful Tom Pearson have both received at least four expressions of interest from various Premiership sides. Arundell, the explosive 20-year-old who made his first Test start against Ireland during the recent Six Nations, is believed to have provisional offers from France, with multiple Top 14 clubs in the running, as well as South
Pearson was voted as the Rugby Players? Association young player of the year in recognition of his performances as Irish finished fifth in the Premiership. The all-action back-rower, and club captain Matt Rogerson, have been sounded out by Steve Borthwick and are in contention for England?s training camps this summer.

That pair could also benefit from the fact that Northampton Saints are in the market for a back-five forward after Lukhan Salakaia-Loto left for Australia last week. Harlequins and Bath are two other clubs said to be ?respectfully keeping tabs on the situation? at Irish more generally.

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The experience of Jack Willis, the ex-Wasps flanker who moved to Toulouse, will be used as a precedent for any prospective England player that secures a move outside of the Premiership. They will be able to make a strong argument that playing abroad should not hinder their eligibility, at least initially. Ben White, the Scotland scrum-half, could head to a United Rugby Championship franchise north of the border.

Meanwhile, Ben Loader, Will Joseph and Ollie Hoskins appear to have options in the Premiership. Many clubs have already spent up to budget for next season, having planned their recruitment in advance because of tight finances. As in the case of Worcester and Wasps folding last season, there will be no scope for salary-cap exemptions as a special measure.

The ceiling of the salary cap, however, is due to rise from ?5 million to ?6.4 million ahead of the 2024-25 campaign, which could help players to find destinations and squeeze onto top-flight rosters.

A number of London Irish players are aiming for roles in the Championship, following the lead of former Worcester players like Will Chudley and Matt Kvesic, both of whom will be at Coventry next season. Brochures and individual CVs are known to have been circulated to Championship clubs by agencies over the past few days, detailing clients that will be seeking employment.

'This has to be a wake-up call'
Telegraph Sport understands that there have also been direct emails and phone calls made to potential recruiters in the Championship by players at Irish. A Championship source suggested that governing bodies could act constructively in a time of change.

?This has to be a wake-up call,? they said. ?Through unfortunate circumstances, the Premiership looks like it is going to get to 10 teams, which is what they have wanted for a while.

Why not take this opportunity to fund Championship teams better so they can have a stronger second tier as well? ?I would love to take on a few of the players I have been offered. Some of them are former England Under-20 internationals, who would be great to develop. Some have Test caps. But how can I do that without additional finances from the RFU?

This should be an opportunity for them.? The RFU imposed a deadline of May 30 on London Irish in order to mitigate against uncertainty for next season given that the 2022-23 Premiership campaign saw both Worcester and Wasps go into administration during the fixture schedule.

It has since been acknowledged that it was a mistake to let those clubs start the season in such a perilous financial state. To avoid that sort of disruption during 2023-24, the RFU have asked Irish to demonstrate that either their takeover, by a US consortium, is viable or that Mick Crossan, the current owner, is prepared and able to fund the club through next season.

Failure to do so will end in suspension from competition, and a worst-case scenario is feared. Only on Friday, the RFU were said to have seen ?zero progression? with the deal. Irish have been asked to outline their plans before 4pm tomorrow to the RFU?s financial viability group, who will meet and make a recommendation to the union?s board before an official announcement on Wednesday.
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Re: Latest on Irish from Chris Foy just now
« Reply #101 on: May 29, 2023, 09:05:53 PM »
London Irish set to become third club ejected from Premiership
Deadline for takeover or proof of funding elapses on Tuesday
Wasps and Worcester already expelled this season
Gerard Meagher
Mon 29 May 2023 18.53 BST
London Irish are expected to become the third team ejected from the Premiership in eight months with the Rugby Football Union poised to suspend the Exiles should they miss Tuesday?s 5pm deadline regarding the proposed takeover.

The situation is such that several players have been seeking to line up provisional moves with England?s Henry Arundell understood to be on Bath?s radar, Paddy Jackson on Newcastle?s, and the back-rower Tom Pearson believed to be of interest to Bath and Bristol among a host of suitors.


With just hours to go until the RFU?s deadline, Irish are staring down the barrel and but for a late reprieve they will follow Wasps and Worcester out of the league.

Either the takeover by a US consortium is completed before close of business, or the current owners provide proof they will fund the Exiles for next season, or they will be suspended from the Premiership.

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Last Friday the squad was advised to prepare for the prospect of being suspended with no sign of progress despite repeated insistence from the club?s hierarchy that the takeover was close to being completed.

There has been widespread resignation that the doomsday scenario will materialise and should the RFU?s deadline, which was set this month, come and go, the union?s club finance viability working group will meet to make a recommendation to the board with an announcement expected on Wednesday. One well-placed source summed up the mood when telling the Guardian ?as far as I?m concerned, they?re gone?.

The RFU set Irish the deadline after the April wages were paid late because the consortium was unable to transfer the funds, leaving the current owner Mick Crossan to belatedly step in. Crossan was absent last Friday from the meeting at which the RFU, Premiership Rugby and the Rugby Players? Association were all present. If the takeover is not completed on Tuesday, Crossan would have to prove his commitment to funding the club but he has been looking to offload it all season.

Irish?s suspension would accelerate PRL?s plans for a 10-team league from next season but would leave dozens of players out of work in a crowded market.

It is understood players and coaches are being widely touted around clubs in the Premiership and the Championship but the majority would likely head abroad given the tight salary cap restrictions in England. One option would be to give Premiership clubs dispensation within the cap to sign London Irish players but that would require unanimous approval and would likely be met with resistance from those who choose not to spend up to the cap. A fund is also being set up by the RFU and PRL to offer hardship support.

The deadline was also set because both the RFU and PRL are desperate to avoid another season in which clubs have to drop out midway through. They do not want the Irish saga to drag over the summer and into next season but the demise of the Exiles would ramp up the pressure on both organisations.

In November, the RFU?s chief executive, Bill Sweeney, was accused of being ?asleep on the job? while he and Premiership Rugby?s Simon Massie-Taylor were blamed for ?failure on an epic scale? at a parliamentary inquiry into the demises of Worcester and Wasps.
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« Reply #102 on: May 29, 2023, 09:42:07 PM »
London Irish are 'to be SUSPENDED from the RFU on Wednesday' https://mol.im/a/12137177 via https://dailym.ai/android
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« Reply #103 on: May 30, 2023, 08:24:36 AM »
If a London based club that finished 5th in the league can?t attract buyers what hope anyone else?

It?s looking more and more like the only way to be sustainable is to own your own ground na drin other events, sugar daddies being far too fickle.

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« Reply #104 on: May 30, 2023, 02:44:56 PM »