Farrell cleared

[FishingWasp]

Did he get a discount for offending in bulk?

Poor, poor decision.

+1 His previous should have meant no reduction, and possibly an increase on the baseline imho

Still seems at odds with what eg Pacific Islanders get

[FishingWasp]

Duplicate posting

[WonkyWasp]

But he is very very charitable: I've lost count of the number of times he has helped me across the road.  I never actually wanted to go but a quick shoulder into my cheekbone soon made me change my mind.

[Skippy]

Perhaps he got a frequent flyer discount given his frequent impersonation of a one-winged aircraft.

[WonkyWasp]

Was any decision arrived at regarding Billy's red card?

[Neils]

Was any decision arrived at regarding Billy's red card?

Probably but for evening sittings they seem to wait until the next day to release -
However just read that the OF Board started at 7.30 AM and finally completed at 8.30 PM. A staggeringly insane length of time. I know it was different panels but maybe the Fat Bill one had to be delayed.

[Rossm]

Was any decision arrived at regarding Billy's red card?

Probably but for evening sittings they seem to wait until the next day to release -
However just read that the OF Board started at 7.30 AM and finally completed at 8.30 PM. A staggeringly insane length of time. I know it was different panels but maybe the Fat Bill one had to be delayed.

All the more sovs for the fatcat KC. He's loving it.

[WonkyWasp]

Thank Neils.  I did wonder if that might be the case.

[Trevs Big Tackle]

Was any decision arrived at regarding Billy's red card?

Probably but for evening sittings they seem to wait until the next day to release -
However just read that the OF Board started at 7.30 AM and finally completed at 8.30 PM. A staggeringly insane length of time. I know it was different panels but maybe the Fat Bill one had to be delayed.

Just 13 hours of Owen saying "I'm sworry"...
https://youtu.be/stHMD5N-KPw

[Neils]

So Fat Bill effectively gets a one WC game ban.

[Neils]

2023 Rugby World Cup: Billy Vunipola to miss England opener after red card - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66585194

[Trevs Big Tackle]

I don't think either of these decisions are going to assuage the Pacific Island nations' concerns over the disciplinary process.

[Bloke in North Dorset]

I can see the argument for Billy's punishment and there is some consistency: First red and he hasn't done the tackle course.

But it does make me wonder what goes on at club training when when I see that and read something like this on the Beeb:

Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.

I know for a lot of the older players they are having to change years, decades, of habit but the tackle laws got changed a at least a year ago and they should have had the habits changed by now. Its not like they're amateurs training once or maybe twice a week, its their full time job.

[mike909]

But it does make me wonder what goes on at club training when when I see that and read something like this on the Beeb:

Scrum-half Danny Care says England have been working on their tackle technique every day as they look to improve their discipline for the upcoming World Cup.

I know for a lot of the older players they are having to change years, decades, of habit but the tackle laws got changed a at least a year ago and they should have had the habits changed by now. Its not like they're amateurs training once or maybe twice a week, its their full time job.

Indeed - but if you make a tackle like Farrell did - then it's deliberate. It was about height...but he still led with a shoulder and made no attempt to wrap. That's not been allowed for way more than year. And YouTube has loads of compilations of tackles v similar to that from last time. And he's of a temperament that made that decision to pole-axe Charlie. He's only ever had remorse when it suits. That was the sort of assault of someone who is deliberately taking people out, without regard to the laws. And i showed again last time out.

[Skippy]

Fazlet?s remorse only relates to being caught. Seems about right given who he is and the club he plays for.