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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2019, 02:15:36 PM »
So, all we are waiting for is for news on Umaga, Kibirigi and maybe Leyds? Unless I missed something?

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« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2019, 02:16:27 PM »
So, all we are waiting for is for news on Umaga, Kibirigi and maybe Leyds? Unless I missed something?

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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2019, 02:28:31 PM »
Well, if my maths is correct, then we now have a squad of 45.
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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2019, 02:44:37 PM »
So, all we are waiting for is for news on Umaga, Kibirigi and maybe Leyds? Unless I missed something?

Coaches! :-X

I think we can rely on www.coach-leasing.co.uk for those  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2019, 02:57:55 PM »
So, all we are waiting for is for news on Umaga, Kibirigi and maybe Leyds? Unless I missed something?

I think the chances of getting Leyds have lessened now confirmation of Odogwu.

Shame would like to have seen leyds, feel odogwu will find it difficult to secure a starting spot. What I have seen of him isn’t getting me excited but let’s see what next season brings.

Going through the wasps squad and only a handful of players are exciting me. Let’s hope the coaching set up gets the max out of them

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« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2019, 03:16:38 PM »
If the rumours had any truth to them Leyds would have been signed up some time ago. The signing of a young winger would just be opportunistic at this stage. I admit it will become more unlikely if we sign the Newcastle winger though.
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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2019, 03:31:54 PM »
But Westy, when you looked at the squad at the beginning of last season, who excited you then?

WLR, Daly, Wade, Sops, Gopps?

None of them excited anyone very much during the actual season did they?

Lets see what the team can actually do before writing them of, I'm happy enough for a team not to be full of exciting individuals if they can produce decent rugby as a unit.

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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2019, 04:42:51 PM »
Well, if my maths is correct, then we now have a squad of 45.

I make it 46?

#1 ( 4 ): Ben Harris, Simon McIntyre, Tom West, Zurabi Zhvania
#2 ( 4 ): Tom Cruse, Ashley Johnson, Tommy Taylor, Gabriel Oghre
#3 ( 5 ): Kieran Brookes, Biyi Alo, Mike Daniels, Jack Owlett, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
#4/5 ( 7 ): Marcus Garratt, James Gaskell, Will Rowlands, Joe Launchbury, Charlie Matthews, Theo Vukasinovic, Tim Cardall
#6/7/8 ( 8 ): Nizaam Carr, Ben Morris, Alex Rieder, Brad Shields, Jack Willis, Thomas Young, Sione Vailanu, Tom Willis
#9 ( 3 ): Dan Robson, Ben Vellacott, Will Porter
#10 ( 2 ): Billy Searle, Lima Sopoaga
#11/14 ( 4 ): Josh Bassett, Marcus Watson, Paolo Odogwu, Callum Sirker
#12/13 ( 6 ): Juan de Jongh, Jimmy Gopperth, Michael Le Bourgeois, Ross Neal, Malakai Fekitoa, Sam Spink
#15 ( 3 ): Rob Miller, Matteo Minozzi, Owain James

That's 10 incoming if you count Alo and 7 from the Academy. 29 retained.

Given that Searle will be out for a while, and we don't know the situation with Robson, to my mind that leaves us a little light across the backs and maybe at Tighthead.
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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2019, 04:58:12 PM »
Tough business if we're up to a squad of 46 and we still think we're light in places.

Up the numbers and cut the quality? If we are up to the cap only choice we have surely.

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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2019, 05:04:57 PM »
Well, if my maths is correct, then we now have a squad of 45.

I make it 46?

#1 ( 4 ): Ben Harris, Simon McIntyre, Tom West, Zurabi Zhvania
#2 ( 4 ): Tom Cruse, Ashley Johnson, Tommy Taylor, Gabriel Oghre
#3 ( 5 ): Kieran Brookes, Biyi Alo, Mike Daniels, Jack Owlett, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
#4/5 ( 7 ): Marcus Garratt, James Gaskell, Will Rowlands, Joe Launchbury, Charlie Matthews, Theo Vukasinovic, Tim Cardall
#6/7/8 ( 8 ): Nizaam Carr, Ben Morris, Alex Rieder, Brad Shields, Jack Willis, Thomas Young, Sione Vailanu, Tom Willis
#9 ( 3 ): Dan Robson, Ben Vellacott, Will Porter
#10 ( 2 ): Billy Searle, Lima Sopoaga
#11/14 ( 4 ): Josh Bassett, Marcus Watson, Paolo Odogwu, Callum Sirker
#12/13 ( 5 ): Juan de Jongh, Jimmy Gopperth, Michael Le Bourgeois, Ross Neal, Malakai Fekitoa, Sam Spink
#15 ( 3 ): Rob Miller, Matteo Minozzi, Owain James

That's 10 incoming if you count Alo and 7 from the Academy. 29 retained.

Given that Searle will be out for a while, and we don't know the situation with Robson, to my mind that leaves us a little light across the backs and maybe at Tighthead.

Well, counting your totals Nelly, then I still make it 45. Ah, I see an error. 12/13, you have a total of 5 but in fact there are 6 names listed. So 46 it is.
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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2019, 05:15:33 PM »
But Westy, when you looked at the squad at the beginning of last season, who excited you then?

WLR, Daly, Wade, Sops, Gopps?

None of them excited anyone very much during the actual season did they?

Lets see what the team can actually do before writing them of, I'm happy enough for a team not to be full of exciting individuals if they can produce decent rugby as a unit.

The problem is Baldpaul for me 4 players down from the previous season, Gopperth, Daly, WLR and Wade and we really struggled. It is a concern but as I said hopefully the coaching set can get us playing like a team but I’m nervous

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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2019, 05:18:40 PM »
Well, if my maths is correct, then we now have a squad of 45.

I make it 46?

#1 ( 4 ): Ben Harris, Simon McIntyre, Tom West, Zurabi Zhvania
#2 ( 4 ): Tom Cruse, Ashley Johnson, Tommy Taylor, Gabriel Oghre
#3 ( 5 ): Kieran Brookes, Biyi Alo, Mike Daniels, Jack Owlett, Jeffery Toomaga-Allen
#4/5 ( 7 ): Marcus Garratt, James Gaskell, Will Rowlands, Joe Launchbury, Charlie Matthews, Theo Vukasinovic, Tim Cardall
#6/7/8 ( 8 ): Nizaam Carr, Ben Morris, Alex Rieder, Brad Shields, Jack Willis, Thomas Young, Sione Vailanu, Tom Willis
#9 ( 3 ): Dan Robson, Ben Vellacott, Will Porter
#10 ( 2 ): Billy Searle, Lima Sopoaga
#11/14 ( 4 ): Josh Bassett, Marcus Watson, Paolo Odogwu, Callum Sirker
#12/13 ( 5 ): Juan de Jongh, Jimmy Gopperth, Michael Le Bourgeois, Ross Neal, Malakai Fekitoa, Sam Spink
#15 ( 3 ): Rob Miller, Matteo Minozzi, Owain James

That's 10 incoming if you count Alo and 7 from the Academy. 29 retained.

Given that Searle will be out for a while, and we don't know the situation with Robson, to my mind that leaves us a little light across the backs and maybe at Tighthead.

Nice work. More than I thought.

The question of Billy and fitness is worrying for the season ahead. With an injury apparently similar to Sam Jones it is going to take him well beyond season start to come back which leaves us very very light at 10.
Dan, hopefully comes back, could also be out for an extended period leaving us a bit light there too.

I look at the list and wonder about winger strength (even with Ross actually being quite good). All it needs is one injury (or Josh attracking more England attention) and we are bare bones time.
I am actually quite excited to see what this lot can do.
Anyone know when Wasps pre-season training starts (I see Coventry are back this week).
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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2019, 05:42:33 PM »
If Wade, the best winger in the NH did not get in, can't see Josh getting in.
I think we are hopeful in some areas of the squad- hopeful our first choices don't cop a Jimmy/Billy, or hopeful that combinations can be found.
I am excited to see Vellacott, ditto Fekitoa, although nervous too. Of the current squad I am excited by the front row, as much as anyone can be (sorry to any props/hookers here), and the back row looks great. Just hoping we are going to play some in the backs.


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Re: Paolo Odogwu on the move perhaps
« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2019, 07:45:21 PM »
I'm genuinely excited about this squad. The names on paper give us good options in themselves but there are two other factors which I believe will play a big part. 1)Most will be available all season . 2) All appear to want to be here and we seem to be looking forward to the prospect of a season where rugby rather than constant speculation and unrest are to the fore.

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« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2019, 08:46:27 PM »
I think I can safely claim this scoop?

If you think about our wing challenge last year, CW = left/retired from Rugby Union, MW = easily injured in the earlier part of the season, RN = makeshift but did well and JB = overplayed and worked too hard. I think we need a natural wing as cover and although raw, Dai sees something in him. As stated previously out and out wingers rarely provide bench cover, so his chances will be limited but he will I hope get chances and needs to seize them.

I am reasonably content with this signing.
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