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Re: Rumours thread
« Reply #180 on: January 25, 2020, 06:33:38 PM »
Loz was very young when he left, he’s won some trophies and lived in London. Maybe he’ll be more open to a change of scenery now he’s had the Saracens and London experience.

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« Reply #181 on: January 25, 2020, 07:28:53 PM »
Didn't Loz move because he was stuck behind Cips and Gops and thought he'd be pulling the strings at 10 when Farrell was away with England?
That didn't work out for him and since he's been a bit part squad player with Salarysins he may be delighted to be in with a good chance of being our starting 12.

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« Reply #182 on: January 26, 2020, 08:47:25 AM »
I very much doubt this rumour. As much as I wish it were true.

1. Source is "as reliable as it gets" which for them could mean anyone.

2. Loz has had more mentions (from rugbypass and TRP) going to Bath, which makes more sense with Roberts leaving. I think that's where he'll go.

3. Why would one of the best fullbacks in Europe join us right now? Do we desperately need him? Loz I can understand, but Goode? I'll admit he'd give incredible support to Minozzi and James, but why would he join us?

Move along people nothing to see here.... Though again, I wish it were true.

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« Reply #183 on: January 26, 2020, 08:54:07 AM »
Loz to Bath according to TRP also says we enquired about Farrell. Now that might have ended my ST.

Also interesting is Walders CV being circulated.
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« Reply #184 on: January 26, 2020, 09:06:46 AM »
It was interesting that in the comments about Loz there was no mention of Wasps being interested.

Stated that Burns apparently linked to Wasps but they have heard he isn't interested, and Lyon might be interested.
Lyon also apparently chasing Lima.

Also in article there was a list of Sarries players looking to move, no mention of Wasps being linked to any of them.

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Re: Rumours thread
« Reply #185 on: January 26, 2020, 09:12:13 AM »
Anyone have full link to TRP article in question?

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Re: Rumours thread
« Reply #186 on: January 26, 2020, 09:44:26 AM »
Loz to Bath according to TRP also says we enquired about Farrell. Now that might have ended my ST.

Also interesting is Walders CV being circulated.


Interesting re: Farrell

The other 11 prem clubs could all register an interest in some Saracens players and see what salaries they're requesting..... Or to see who is actually leaving (if anyone)

I'd like to think that our only interest in Farrell would be to try to help just Saracens even more

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« Reply #187 on: January 26, 2020, 09:59:08 AM »
Anyone have full link to TRP article in question?

Nope  it's the Sunday hard copy. Later in the week they free up articles  somebody might be on subscription though.
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« Reply #188 on: January 26, 2020, 09:43:20 PM »
Kind of feel Sarries players will be involved in the majority of transfer rumour stories given the situation. Would be interesting to see how it pans out.

I know some are totally against the idea of us signing one of them. I am still very much enraged at what Sarries have done and feel their punishment is fully justified. However, I wouldn’t close the door on the players for that reason. I hope that if we do sign one of them, then we as a fan base welcome them with open arms and allow them this fresh start and opportunity to give their all for wasps... with our second guessing the reasons for why they signed and all that.

I think Loz will always be linked by some to us due to his previous stint here. I think he would be a perfect fit but most reliable news outlets have him going to Bath.

Was Goode mentioned in the rugby paper then? Great player and one I would welcome

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« Reply #189 on: January 26, 2020, 10:46:18 PM »
Although I played my rugby in the amateur days pre-leagues, if in today's professional era I was offered a contract which involved "extras" such as a new house etc and the club's experienced legal staff assured me it was a legitimate way of getting round the cap I'm pretty sure I would seriously consider it. Don't get me wrong, I deplore what the owners have done with Saracens and the club deserves all the disciplinary measures meted out to them but I don't think that Wasps should ignore considering acquiring any of their players purely based on "they knew what they were doing"

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« Reply #190 on: January 26, 2020, 10:55:31 PM »
I’m with you on this Berty. Who knows what players had what contract negotiations. To label the entire squad as cheats is a very sweeping statement. Some contracts will have been totally legit or some may have had loops holes utilised but the player totally unaware of the overall scale of it at the club and was trusting his employers were operating within the cap.
As Berry he said, we must remember this is their job and a short career at that. So with the above situations, very few few of us would turn down extra salary so we can’t expect players to too.
I’m not saying that none of the players knew what was going on and complicit in it all. But we can’t make a sweeping statement that they all were. For that reason, I do hope Dai is looking at players looking to depart Saracens. They’re getting relegated so it’s perfectly acceptable for them to look for the exit door.... Wilson to Sale, Goneva to Quins, Kibrige to Us!

I just hope there aren’t too many rumours that don’t pan out like last season

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« Reply #191 on: January 26, 2020, 10:57:53 PM »
Although I played my rugby in the amateur days pre-leagues, if in today's professional era I was offered a contract which involved "extras" such as a new house etc and the club's experienced legal staff assured me it was a legitimate way of getting round the cap I'm pretty sure I would seriously consider it. Don't get me wrong, I deplore what the owners have done with Saracens and the club deserves all the disciplinary measures meted out to them but I don't think that Wasps should ignore considering acquiring any of their players purely based on "they knew what they were doing"

Even though Sarries refused to deal with agents, all players have them. I would have thought the players would have, at least, told them about the offers Sarries had made, and if the agents didn't express an opinion as to the legality then they weren't doing their jobs.

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« Reply #192 on: January 26, 2020, 11:11:24 PM »
Although I played my rugby in the amateur days pre-leagues, if in today's professional era I was offered a contract which involved "extras" such as a new house etc and the club's experienced legal staff assured me it was a legitimate way of getting round the cap I'm pretty sure I would seriously consider it. Don't get me wrong, I deplore what the owners have done with Saracens and the club deserves all the disciplinary measures meted out to them but I don't think that Wasps should ignore considering acquiring any of their players purely based on "they knew what they were doing"

Even though Sarries refused to deal with agents, all players have them. I would have thought the players would have, at least, told them about the offers Sarries had made, and if the agents didn't express an opinion as to the legality then they weren't doing their jobs.

Plus they would have financial advisors and lawyers where contracts are involved. If no advice was given appropriately then there are some professional people who need "looking at"
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Re: Rumours thread
« Reply #193 on: January 26, 2020, 11:43:18 PM »
As Requested TRP:

BATH are leading
the hunt for Alex
Lozowski as the
departures from
disgraced Premiership
champions
Saracens pick
up the pace.
Lozowski, 26,
is out of contract
this
summer and is
set to leave
Allianz Park
in a bid to
revive his
international
career.
The son of
former Wasps
and England
centre Rob, he
moved to Saracens in
2016 after a two-year
stint with his dad’s
former club.
Lozowski, who plays
at centre or fly-half,
and started his career
with Leeds Carnegie is
a leading target for
Bath boss Stuart
Hooper.
Springbok prop Vincent
Koch is attracting
interest from his native
South Africa with the
Blue Bulls hoping to
sign him.
England second row
George Kruis is set to
knock back La
Rochelle because he
fancies a move to
Japan. La Rochelle
have started to follow
Will Skelton on Instagram
while Lyon have
also been linked.
Nick Tompkins, who
was called into Wales’
Six Nations squad, is a
target for the Scarlets
who would like to take
him on loan next
season.
Blindside understands
that several
Premiership clubs
have put talks on hold
with earlier targets
because they are trying
to grab a bargain from
any Saracens fire sale.
But the majority of
Saracens’ England
hopefuls are likely to
leave on loan while
stars like Owen Farrell,
Maro Itoje and
Jamie George are staying.
Ben Spencer has
been interesting Bristol,
Exeter Chiefs,
Bath, Newcastle Falcons
and Northampton
Saints.
We have also heard
Saints could be interested
in Ben Earl while
Bristol have also been
looking at him.
Chiefs could also
come in for Max Malins
while Jack Singleton
and Nick Isiekwe


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Re: Rumours thread
« Reply #194 on: January 26, 2020, 11:43:52 PM »
FRENCH Top 14 outfit
Lyon are looking for a
new fly-half and have
Wasps former All Black
playmaker Lima Sopoaga
on the list of players
that they would like to
sign.
Sopoaga, has the
option of an
extra year
on his
contract
with
struggling
Wasps,
but as
Blindside
reported last week,
they want to sign a big
name fly-half for next
season.
Wasps were ready to
test the waters with an
enquiry for England
skipper Owen Farrell,
before he made it clear
he isn’t going to leave
Saracens despite their
relegation to the
Championship at the
end of the season.
Sopoaga, 28, who has
won 18 Test caps,
helped the Highlanders
win their first-ever
Super Rugby title four
years ago.
He has previously
said he isn’t leaving
Wasps next summer.
But that is not
puting off Lyon
who are also
weighing up
Bath’s
Freddie
Burns,
above,
who is in
the final
months
of his
contract
and is keen
to play more often than
he has been next
season.
Burns has also been
linked with Wasps, but
we understand that
isn’t a move being
considered by the
former Leicester and
England international.