Rumours thread

[Hymenoptera]

BRISTOL Bears, who are
now understood to have
completed a deal for England
prop Kyle Sinckler,
are still in the hunt to
strengthen their squad.
Blindside has been told
that Sinckler, 26, has
agreed to leave
Harlequins for Bristol but
an announcement could
be held up by the Six Nations
which kicks off next
week.
They could now switch
their attentions to Exeter
Chiefs’ former England
flanker Matt Kvesic who
is out of contract at
Sandy Park at the end of
the season.
German-born
Kvesic could be
too pricy for
the Chiefs to
keep at the club
and Bristol have
been sniffing
about while Glasgow
are also in the market for
an openside.
Kvesic, left, who
started his career
with Worcester
Warriors and has
four England caps
to his name moved
to Devon three years
ago after a

[wasps]

I totally understand where Bertie and Rory are coming from.

If we're to believe the reports that Saracens have been doing similar deals for years with approval from PRL /salary cap manager, then why would this current crop of players believe that it's suddenly no longer legal?


That being said, we only know of deals for a handful of their players - their absolute top stars.
Even if it's all out in the open at Saracens so that everyone knows it's going on (and that they have parties where they laugh at the rest of us for our naivety), it would still be a hard push to believe that their wider squad players (Malins, singleton Loz, Barrington, Kpoku, Isiekwe etc) know enough about employment law to question what's going on.

Even if they ask their advisors, (agents / accountants /lawyers etc) the deals sound similar enough to those that have previously been approved that you'd have to be an expert in the field and have full details to hand to stand a chance of categorically knowing to exact legality.

[HDAWG]

Hymenoptera, thank you!

[Heathen]

Howler being touted on RugbyPass and joining our coaching team.

[backdoc]

Another 'waif and stray'!

[Raggs]

Wales have been such a structured and defensive team for so long, it's hard to know exactly what Howley will bring.

[Neils]

Yesterday it was Walder (CV being circulated) now Howley - who seems probably a better fit of more of the same.

[AKWasp]

I’d be happy with Howley, international quality and would relish the chance to get his coaching career back on track after the betting suspension.

[Neils]

Bristol add another confirmed Sinkler. Quins saying they couldn't match the money!

[HDAWG]

This is exciting and interesting, but still no idea if he'd be beneficial.

[Peej]

God, I want nothing to do with Howley.

Walder I'd definitely like to see back though

[Hymenoptera]

Cant remember what the interview was but it wasnt complimentary about Howley's "people skills', far from itin fact.
I dont have an opinion on this one.

[wasps]

Cant remember what the interview was but it wasnt complimentary about Howley's "people skills', far from itin fact.
I dont have an opinion on this one.

I'm assuming that Dai still knows Howley pretty well.

Dai seems to be universally liked as a person, and appears to be a genuinely nice guy with good people skills.

I would think he'd only bring Howley in if he thought he fitted in with his idea of the coaching / player dynamic

[HDAWG]

Given Dai was aiming for Borthwick and Edwards last season, him looking for quality might be indicative here too.

[Neils]

Joe schmidt to Bath is rumoured also see it commented on that Wasps approached him two years ago. This seems silly as he was never available before the WC.