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So for Bristol
« on: November 15, 2020, 03:16:46 PM »
Next Sunday 1pm on BT

Assuming no new fitness issues
1. McIntyre
2. Taylor
3. Brookes
4. Gaskell
5. Cardell
6. Shields
7. Young
8 Willis T
9 Vellacott
10. Sopoanga
11 Bassett
12 Gopperth
13 De Jongh
14 Kibirige
15 Watson

16 Oghre
17 West or Morris
18 Toomaga Allan
19  Vukasinovic ?
20 Barbeary
21  Wolstenholme
22 Umaga (if released)
23 Sirker?

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2020, 03:30:37 PM »
I'd have Atkinson on the bench.

And Le Bourgeois on the bench.

Also torn between Barbeary and Tom Willis to start.

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2020, 03:31:34 PM »
Looks about right. Personally I would be tempted to start West.

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2020, 03:42:05 PM »
Doubt Jacob will be released.

Not part of the Sirker love in I am afraid. Yes he is/was fast but I have only seen him in 7s and would be very careful about throwing him into a match where he has to tackle (not something I have seen him do). Yes he needs game time but in a Prem match where much is at stake?
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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2020, 03:58:18 PM »
I'd like to see Sirker get an opportunity, but he's still behind Kibirige, Bassett, Watson and Minozzi on the wing.

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2020, 04:02:22 PM »
Agree Sirker needs easing in. M.M. Probably used more for full back when available?

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2020, 04:46:44 PM »
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Doubt Jacob will be released.

If England want to maintain the support from clubs and club fans they're going to have to start releasing players who obviously aren't going to get game time. This is is especially important for young players but also important for senior players as well. How many games did Launch miss for us whilst not even getting on the bench for England last 6N and autumn? It felt like a lot.

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2020, 05:02:55 PM »
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Doubt Jacob will be released.

If England want to maintain the support from clubs and club fans they're going to have to start releasing players who obviously aren't going to get game time. This is is especially important for young players but also important for senior players as well. How many games did Launch miss for us whilst not even getting on the bench for England last 6N and autumn? It felt like a lot.

Will the covid situation not affect ease of calling back players from international setup?

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2020, 05:20:39 PM »
Read that 19 positive cases been reported over the 12 clubs last week

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2020, 05:45:00 PM »
Read that 19 positive cases been reported over the 12 clubs last week

But it wasn't Exeter, Wasps or Bristol - late return to training.
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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2020, 05:49:26 PM »
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Doubt Jacob will be released.

If England want to maintain the support from clubs and club fans they're going to have to start releasing players who obviously aren't going to get game time. This is is especially important for young players but also important for senior players as well. How many games did Launch miss for us whilst not even getting on the bench for England last 6N and autumn? It felt like a lot.

Will the covid situation not affect ease of calling back players from international setup?

They're in bubbles and being regularly tested, so I don't see why not. Teams have to trust each other otherwise games couldn't go ahead anyway.

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2020, 06:33:12 PM »

Its not so much about trust or training bubbles.
Its about protocols - and I have no idea what they are

You'll have players staying in hotels in London.
If released, they'll have to travel home. That could be a pretty long journey for some, so bay involve stop overs, or at least food stops.

Then they'll be staying in a different bubble at home - with family /house mates / other.

Then into a separate training bubble......

Then the same in reverse the following week to get back to England training.



There could well be protocols in place to limit that happening

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2020, 06:47:54 PM »
10. Gopperth
11. Bassett
12. Le Bourgeois
13. JdeJ
14. Kibirige
15. Lima

For me. Mills at 12 if fit (but he’s out for a while, right?). 

Lima not a 10 for us. Miller on the bench to cover 10/15.

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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2020, 06:50:48 PM »
Miller injured
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Re: So for Bristol
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2020, 06:59:41 PM »
10. Gopperth
11. Bassett
12. Le Bourgeois
13. JdeJ
14. Kibirige
15. Lima

For me. Mills at 12 if fit (but he’s out for a while, right?). 

Lima not a 10 for us. Miller on the bench to cover 10/15.

Miller's injured, but also Le Bourgeois has mainly been used as 13? Thought he was less successful at 12?