Serious injury for Jack.

[mike909]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-9257199/Horror-Jack-Willis-injury-sees-ex-England-international-Ugo-Monye-call-ban-crocodile-roll.html

100%, but it ought not to be a problem....as officiating to the Laws means clarity and no "clear outs" and Law 15 provides for binding into a ruck or it's a tackle of a man with possession of the ball.

The "roll" is a function of problems with enforcing how the Laws describe how the breakdown is played.

[Peej]

Some reporting that it's the same leg as last time

[Neils]

Some reporting that it's the same leg as last time

Hope the hell not.

[AndyL]

Some reporting that it's the same leg as last time

Bobby Bridge in cov telegraph seemed to indicate it was the left knee and Jack had previously done his right one in.

[coddy]

If Jack is back for the start of next season fit and healthy then thats a result.

[JF]

You have to feel for the lad, that's terrible.

Wishing him the fullest of recoveries.

[Heathen]

Definitely the other knee. Last report from HQ was that he left walking with the aid of crutches. Obviously will get a scan once bruising has subsided. Generally means that we will know more on Tuesday.

Gutted for Jack.

[wycombewasp]

just watched the video and to me it looks like the Italian player comes in from the side of the ruck and not just just marginally,  at about 90 degrees, I can't understand what the ref. is looking at, he was right next to the incident and yet he restarted with a scrum which implies no fault, the same with the O F no head contact, when it was obvious to everyone watching, there was.
I don't like knocking refs. but I'm lost for words on this one.
     

[Wombles]

just watched the video and to me it looks like the Italian player comes in from the side of the ruck and not just just marginally,  at about 90 degrees, I can't understand what the ref. is looking at, he was right next to the incident and yet he restarted with a scrum which implies no fault, the same with the O F no head contact, when it was obvious to everyone watching, there was.
   

The side entry should of been penalised as should of the Italian holding on. Referees seem to be becoming lazy once more around the ruck, and not whistling quick enough when a player is holding on, this delay may well be a contributory factor in Jacks injury as the Italian is still playing when the whistle should already of gone.

However the fault here is two fold. The first is that the Italian player would of felt jacks leg under him and yet he continued to roll him...now i can believe that he had no intention to injure him, however equally he had no intention of safety. The second fault is that we let this type of tackle enter our game! We lost Sam Jones because Eddie brought in Judo trainers to teach us just this. However this does not fall at Eddies door on this occasion, but squarely on the law makers the IRB. This is a tackle that should of been outlawed years ago and many players are now paying the price for their lack of action.

[Rossm]

Why there was outpouring of emotion for stricken England ace

Bobby Bridge couldn't sleep.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/rugby/jack-willis-england-injury-rugby-19835448

[Steve from Cov]

Yes - huge outpouring of support for Jack on social media.

Lots of people have been recognising a serious injury to a very nice bloke.

Best wishes Jack.

[Bloke in North Dorset]

Lee just been told not ACL but about as bad as it gets without ACL.

[Shugs]

Update from Lee after the Wuss game. Apparently he hasn't done his ACL but has done "everything else". I'm seeing that as marginally positive. ACL would have definitely meant surgery. Not sure if this does or not.

[Neils]

Is that not an Alex Rieder type of injury.

[Steve from Cov]

Update from Lee after the Wuss game. Apparently he hasn't done his ACL but has done "everything else". I'm seeing that as marginally positive. ACL would have definitely meant surgery. Not sure if this does or not.

Any thoughts backdoc?