Well, at least the SISU JR2 case is going forwards. At the end of this month will be a short hearing, probably to make sure all papers are in order, and then sometime in April/May 2018 will be a two day hearing. In the first to hear the appeal, and only if that is successful, then they will hear the application. So, Appeal accepted, yes or no, if no, then can SISU appeal that to the Supreme Court? My guess is that they would. If their appeal succeeds, will their application be accepted, yes or no? If it is not accepted, they might also appeal that, and I guess that they would. Best guess? At least 18 months from a final decision. But ti could go on much longer. Unless the courts get fed up with them. Or they run out of money.